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Thats what I said
It actually has struggle with its god tiers
It actually has struggle with its god tiers
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Lucifer Morningstar vs SCP 3812
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I can understand that, looking at a verse from a perspective of VS debating can warp your view of it, anyway we are derailing and should probably stop.
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This is a fun and games board so derailing isn't too much of a problem
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Oh it is? Le oof
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Yeah I think I created this thread in the Fun and Games section for this reason alone.PsychoWarper said:
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Huh ok then, well anyway like I said looking at verses through the lens of VS Debating can/will warp your view of it.
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True. Several verses here had proven to either be far stronger or weaker than my expectations (though the former is more frequent). There's also that feeling of looking at a hax wall and thinking to oneself how it would have been pretty useful in a certain part of the story and the realiztion that authors can be inconsistent as hell (A tier 7 being hurt by bullets for instance).PsychoWarper said:
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Senses tingling
I hear sh*tting on Masadaverse
Go on....
I hear sh*tting on Masadaverse
Go on....
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I'm starting to feel that you don't like BS hax-lords... and I agree.
I wonder what gave you the idea that I didn't like hax
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Also...does this mean 3812 is the strongest Afro-American man in fiction?
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No, that would go to the Writer
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The Writer is supposed to be a representation of all the DC writers
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So he'd be raceless I think.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
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I'm starting to feel that you don't like BS hax-lords... and I agree.
I wonder what gave you the idea that I didn't like hax
Its funny cause most stupidly haxxed characters have some sort of BS Immortality that makes it so they dont die.
Its funny cause most stupidly haxxed characters have some sort of BS Immortality that makes it so they dont die.
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@Cal
Who do you dislike more Reinhard or 682?
Reinhard does at least eventually gets ******* rekt by Haju
Who do you dislike more Reinhard or 682?
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hey, actually 682 isn't that OP, he was stomped so hard by a f**kin statue my dude.
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Reinhard. 682 I got over. Reading Hajun murdering Reinhard was even more cathartic than seeing Diavolo get stuck in the death loop.
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I mean 682 in extended canon can either be a total dud or completely unkillable but it is interesting to see you get over 682 since you used to hate the lizard with a passion.
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This. I can stomach or even enjoy insane hax provided that the characters don't have equally insane survivabilty. Reinhard having Type 8 dependent on a 1-A+, negating all types of immortality and Regenerationn pisses me off to no end sometimes.Phoenks said:
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Same. Same.
And I said this again, his (canonical) defeat isn't even cathartic. He gets what he wants and dies smiling.
Which is why Hajun did nothing wrong.
And I said this again, his (canonical) defeat isn't even cathartic. He gets what he wants and dies smiling.
Which is why Hajun did nothing wrong.
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When Hajun loses he doesnt have Immeasurable Taiji, when loses hes at his absolute weakest being dragged down by the infinite souls and without the tumor (Even at this point hes still superior to Rein, Merc and Marie) and fights someone who has Immeasurable Taiji.
When Hajun actually has his full Taiji he wins and deletes everything its just due to Merc's BS it gets undone.
Hell Reinhard isnt even brought back, in K3 LLT is passed on due to his death iirc.
When Hajun actually has his full Taiji he wins and deletes everything its just due to Merc's BS it gets undone.
Hell Reinhard isnt even brought back, in K3 LLT is passed on due to his death iirc.
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Throne God Hajun is still described as having immeasurable and evergrowing Taiji despite being weakened yet Tenma (who's countless infinities weaker) pushes back his Law. I'm still wondering how that even works since I thought a staple of Taikyoku was that a higher value always reigned supreme over a lower one regardless of the latter's abilities.PsychoWarper said:
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Iirc he wasnt ever growing anymore though I havnt seen that stuff in awhile, plus by the time he fought Habaki he was no longer Immeasurable or ever growing.
Technically Yato only slowed down his Law not stop it, it was still going to happen, the reason Hajun didnt just go a yeet Yato to make his Law happen was due to his arrogance, he saw Yato as no different from 3D trash that was beneath him, thats why he gave power to Habaki and Yakou so they could take of the the trash (Yato).
Technically Yato only slowed down his Law not stop it, it was still going to happen, the reason Hajun didnt just go a yeet Yato to make his Law happen was due to his arrogance, he saw Yato as no different from 3D trash that was beneath him, thats why he gave power to Habaki and Yakou so they could take of the the trash (Yato).
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Technically that Loli is Hajuns twin brother the Tumor.
@War
More like CIS, though that CIS was a major oart of his character and a reason he was so powerful
@War
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Hes basically so arrogant it ranges into stupidity, like hes the worst jobber in fiction above even like HA DIO or Gilgamesh.
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Actually I think the problem it's not the Masadaverse... But its fans
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They don't debate, they just impose things and reasonings in VS. Let's say: I came with a reasoning that implies philosophy, questions that the Masadaverse-fans never ask nor bring to any post and plausibility regarding other fictions... They just disregard the same just by quoting Taikyoku and all that dumbness. They don't debate, they impose. But that would be the "hardliners", those who are not blinded by what others see in the verse are the most plausible ones
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THIS. Everytime, I see someone point out how a certain character is more powerful, how the Masadaverse can fall short compared to other cosmologies even with these new revisions of theirs and the first thing they do is hide behind "BuT tAiJI iS DiFFErenT FrOM cosMOLOGy" as if that means anything on an indexing site that now uses a single hard metric that doesn't give leeway to Tier 1 verses to be as strong as they wish to be anymore.BleedingPeach said:
I swear the argument that Hajun will always grow stronger than his opponent no matter what (NLF incarnate) is one of the most misinfomed, delusional and outright pretentious statements I've ever heard outside of Screw-Attack worshipping Superman.
Sorry for the rant.
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So, one wants a philosophical debate about the powers of fictional characters and the other thinks the cosmology and the power level it presents is BS and NFL despite not knowing the verse past vsbattles....
Seems legit
Seems legit
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Come on, Tony... You know they don't debate, but impose reasonings
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