- 3,367
- 3,172
Thanks to Therefir, I'll be waiting on his decision regarding the high end vs low end yield.
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No problem.Wonderful! Thanks for letting me know.
He said that he would let you and other knowledgeable members decide that.Thanks to Therefir, I'll be waiting on his decision regarding the high end vs low end yield.
Oh, I misread that.He said that he would let you and other knowledgeable members decide that.
The low-end is the "minimum amount required to generate a quake of intensity between VII - VIII at a distance of 122.72 km from the epicenter..." according to the calc. Basically covering only the area of Lammoth, which is the area described as specifically being damaged by Morgoth's screamWhat are the rationales for each yield?
Then Morgoth sent forth a terrible cry, that echoed in the mountains. Therefore that region was called Lammoth; for the echoes of his voice dwelt there ever after, so that any who cried aloud in that land awoke them, and all the waste between the hills and the sea was filled with a clamour as of voices in anguish. The cry of Morgoth in that hour was the greatest and most dreadful that was ever heard in the northern world; the mountains shook, and the earth trembled, and rocks were riven asunder. |
Deep in forgotten places that cry was heard. Far beneath the ruined halls of Angband, in vaults to which the Valar in the haste of their assault had not descended, Balrogs lurked still, awaiting ever the return of their Lord...
I might be describing it or reading it poorly, but I believe that's what he's doing.Hmm. Wouldn't it be better to use the (first) earthquake generating impact approach, but use it for a greater distance, in that case?
Same as before regarding the impact calculator, except replacing the effective quake distance of 122.72 km with 569.92 km and adjusting the factors to again obtain the minimum requirement for VII - VIII identification at that distance from the epicenter. This is the result. |
Well the first calc assumes the destructive force of the scream only covers the entire region of Lammoth (I forgot to specify that so I had to edit my comment) meaning roughly 122.72 km from the epicentre.I meant calculating it reaching to Lammoth and beyond.
Perhaps Low 7-B, likely higher?Well, I think that if the scream was only said to have been heard at the greater distance, rather than destroying rocks there, I do not think that we can assume that it was just as powerful there.
I'll go ahead and do that then. Might take some time, but revisions can continue on my end at least!That could work, yes.
I do not know.Regarding Smaug's blog, will Mr Bambu be making remaking it, or am I free to go ahead and change him to Large Town level?
Yes, very much so. Smaug is a famous character who doesn't really scale to anyone, so he needed his own feat to be calc'd.Okay. Thank you very much for helping out.
@Tyranno223
Is that calculation still useful to scale any characters from?
Lord of the RingsAlso, can somebody remind me of the other knowledgeable members who have helped out in this thread previously, so I can call for them, please?
Okay. That is good then.Yes, very much so. Smaug is a famous character who doesn't really scale to anyone, so he needed his own feat to be calc'd.
donezoOkay. That is good then.
@DMUA @DemonGodMitchAubin @Armorchompy
Would any of you be willing to evaluate the following calculation and then tell us here please?
Lord of the Rings Calc: The Wrath of Smaug
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Thanks! Will go ahead then.Thank you for helping out. it is appreciated.
You can probably use the calculation in question to scale from then, Tyranno223.
No problem, and thank you for helping out.Been off for a bit but during that time I've read a lot of Tolkiens works. Not sure what the current discussion is atm so if I could be put up to speed that would be good.
For Dragons I wanna add that Fall of Gondolin states Dragon fire can melt stone and Iron and I believe also Children of Húrin. Both Glaurung and Smaug also desolated several miles of land but I feel those events might be too vague.
As for speed I'd argue Dragons are around the level of Maia since Gandalf considered Smaug a being of immense power in the Unfinished Tales, so most likelt they can scale from the Balrogs flying from Angband to Lammoth.
If not I assume they scale to the Fell Beasts winged speed which accordong to Gandalf can cross at least 200 leagues in a few hours, assuming 3 hours that's 230 MPH or 370 Kilometers per hour.
Dragon scales are harder than Iron according to Fall of Gondolin and Children of Húrin and also comparable to even Mithril in the Hobbit when Thorin showed the Mithril shirt to Bilbo