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Lille Barro vs Jübito
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Except it is true. In fact all of them have been debunked apart from his intangbility which does not help him win.
Obito has 2 defenses he can not get through, even if you believe TSBs would not block it somehow. The rinnengan would definitely absorb it.
Obito has genjutsu to get past the intangibility.
These 2 things net him the win.
I don't believe that in the slightest
Obito has 2 defenses he can not get through, even if you believe TSBs would not block it somehow. The rinnengan would definitely absorb it.
Obito has genjutsu to get past the intangibility.
These 2 things net him the win.
I don't believe that in the slightest
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If you decide to ignore everything that has then yeah nothing has been debunked.Frantzy12 said:Lol nothing has been debunked
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Let me come with you fam
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It can't be added. People completely ignores Obito's ability. Highly biased thread. If it gets added, i'll just head to the vs removal thread.Frantzy12 said:
You guys have to consider everything. That's not up for debate.
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That is unfortunate but you not believing somthing does not make it through you have to debunk it, but since you can not leaving the thread is fine.Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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Lille will be stomping soon anyway. And the other thread is too old, and soon to be outdated.
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stomping soon?
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The illusion thing was definitely debunked as Izanagi has nothing to do with illusions. It's basically reality manipulation.
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@Applelord
Shunsui doesn't use illusions bruh...
I'll also be looking back through SJ to find the Viz scans. MS is unreliable.
Shunsui doesn't use illusions bruh...
I'll also be looking back through SJ to find the Viz scans. MS is unreliable.
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Oh, and in Naruto, recognizing something is an "illusion" doesn't mean you're not still in the Genjutsu.
Prime Example: Naruto in Itachi's Finger Genjutsu.
Prime Example: Naruto in Itachi's Finger Genjutsu.
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Nah, didn't have time between getting scans and trying to keep up with the thread on my phone. I probably missed it.AppleLord said:
Viz Scans:
So, no...Lille hasn't "seen" through illusions.
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I'm assuming this is what you were talking about.AppleLord said:
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So, the people who voted for Lille just dipped without taking into consideration all factors?....wow....talk about biased.
Facts:
So, under the impression Obito will not be able to do any physical harm, he still one shots with Genjutsu. He can make Lille depower and kill himself if he chose to. Lille has no response to genjutsu.
Note: I acknowledge that Lille could possibly kill Juubito, but given these factors above make it near impossible.
Facts:
- X-Axis isn't an instant shot (Characters have shown to attempt to block and dodge it successfully).
- X-Axis does shoot material as proven via the tree of life situation and as per Hikifune's words.
So, under the impression Obito will not be able to do any physical harm, he still one shots with Genjutsu. He can make Lille depower and kill himself if he chose to. Lille has no response to genjutsu.
Note: I acknowledge that Lille could possibly kill Juubito, but given these factors above make it near impossible.
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Don't bleach charecters sixth sense? plus isn't one of the ways to get out of a genjutsu is to have a new sudden surge of energy or something? cus quincies take in new energy all the time.
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Only through basic genjutsu not occular genjutsu. The 6th sense is useless when occular genjutsu in in play too.Champion234 said:
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You have to Stop the Flow of Energy, then power up. But as shown in the Manga, it doesn't always work as when Naruto tried it, Itachi said he was good, but not good enough and double down on him.Champion234 said:
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also it does not work on occular genjutsu in the databook the method for breaking out of non occular genjutsu was flaring your chakra. While for occular based genjutsu it was: have a partner lol.
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TheFinalOrder said:
1) x-axis is indeed an instant shot,when the trigger is pulled you can dodge the aim,but not the shot.the royal guard got in front of his aim....and the smoke in their zanpakutou may have been for dramatic effect, cuz x-axis has never been shown to leave splinters or left over molecules after piercing.
2) no material is shot in x-axis,hikifune cage was hit by base Lille who fired helig pfiel without using his schrift...when using x-axis fires everything between point A and B is pierced/erased(hence the term x-axis)...oestu (top tier)saw/sensed nothing and got blitzed by it.. he even taunts the royal guards to stand in a straight line so he could take them out in one shot...x-axis is downright spatial erasure,that what give birth to his intaginbility too, as he erases his physical body from space
3)genjustu take control of the five senses and mind rapes them,lille has a very good sixth sense,so no. also if genjutsu was such a convenient one-shot technique...madara would have defeated hashirama in their many battles and sasuke could have solo'd the five Kages, also Obito isn't doing staring contest with lille, he gets erased the moment he comes in lille eye line ..shunsui had to run around like a rat... Lille can teleport too and he ain't blitzing him either
To add TSB ain't blocking or nulling shit.. It's very weak to space manipulation, e.g kamui and minato's teleporting,thats like one of its very few weakness, so bad luck facing Lille x-axis,which is spatial erasure..
Juubito is generally stronger/versatile and should win this if Lille was tangible but Obito got nothing in his arsenal that really works...but lille just haxes him out.
I vote Lille, high-mid difficulty due to obito Regen..
Question can Lille extract tailed beast with the whole Quincy skaveri thing???
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We have countered everyone single pne of those points and no nothing shows that x-axis is spatial manipulation, in fact visuals go against that as places it shoots are smoking simple.
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"2) no material is shot in x-axis,hikifune cage was hit by base Lille who fired helig pfiel without using his schrift.."
Its highly implied that he indeed was using the Axis when Gerard tells him that its a disgrace for the axis that it cannot penetrate through the cage.
Its highly implied that he indeed was using the Axis when Gerard tells him that its a disgrace for the axis that it cannot penetrate through the cage.
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There's more evidence of Lille not firing anything. Saying he does would imply that his firing Reishi which isn't the case since The Cage would Light absorbed it. Either way, this match is invalid due to the Bleach revisions. Lille and Gerard are gonna get their Regenerationn upgraded and they'll be Sub Rel / Sub Rel+.
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Except literally in the sam chapter there is evidence of something the cage can not absorb unless you want to tell me that Yhwach auswhatever is nothing as well.Knightofannihilation666 said:
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.... The Auswählen is natural that's why. It isn't made of Reishi like the energy based attacks in Bleach. The Auswählen is real light, we just don't accept it as real light because it bent a little. Again, if it were Reishi based the Cage of Light would have negged it. Also the vapor argument doesn't hold up either, Lille shot Shunsui in the foot and no vapor was made. This can likely just be Kubo with his inconsistent art again ( A very common case in Bleach . ) furthermore as I said this match in invalid regardless. After the upgrades get applied Obito isn't tagging Lille anytime soon.
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PaChi2 said:
That's entirely up to the OP, and stuff.
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I mean Obito is probably sub relavistic considering his speed come from EMS Sasuke who is OOM slower than Juubito but we just dont have any calcs for him.
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I don't understand the logic behind that.
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My point is EMS Sasuke is about mach 3000+ Juubito's speed is >>>>>>> EMS Sasuke.
sub-relav starts at mach 8800+
sub-relav starts at mach 8800+
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We don't scale like that, WeeklyBattles tried the same thing with Ryuko from Kill La Kill and it got denied. Juubito being faster than EMS Sasuke would put him above mach 3000+ by an uncertain amount.
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ShrekAlmighty said:
Blatant calc stacking as pointed out by everyone in the blog
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