azontr
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Bro don't talk to me like you was cooking something
I'll address all the points in Mikey's favor in a bit (and grind them to fine powder).
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Letting my intrusive thoughts win (Yu (The Boxer) vs Mikey (Tokyo Revengers)
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I'll address all the points in Mikey's favor in a bit (and grind them to fine powder).
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Hanma stated that he has Great Kinetic Vision in the character book (it's in his wiki profile too) which is pretty much seeing the world at slow motion lol. DI Mikey blitzed this guy btw.
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KekBro don't talk to me like you was cooking something
I'll address all the points in Mikey's favor in a bit (and grind them to fine powder).
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Which is pretty much the same thing lol. It's not like Yu slows time itself to make the punches slower.
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Same dude who can't react to supersonic attacks
While Yu dodges people faster than that? Aaron for example who is supersonic+
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He was in base when he kicked Hanma
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Even worse then, Can't dodge sub+ Attacks
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Speed does not matter in an equalized fight amd Mikey has reactive power which is a direct counter to analytical prediction
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Yu is not bounded by the boxe itself, he showed to be able to follow the opponent's legs movement and to being able to use their shadow to read the movements + Mikey's kicks needs a far higher distance to travel in order to reach the target (his nuclear kick needs 2,4 m) while Yu is able to deal with punches which only needs less than a meter to reach the target + he doesn't dodge the punches because he knows the techniques which is what happens IRL but he dodge them because he sees the world in slow motion and therefore has all the time to avoid it, he never learnt boxe in first place, K said "yeah don't get hit and punch, now you are a professional boxer"
How is it the same thing?
uh... no it only means his reaction time is abnormal
speed is equalized dude
uh, no? Mikey activated his Di right after waking up from his nap after dealing with chonbo and the other dude, right after he faced Hanma.
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But his enhanced senses that can dodge supersonic+ attacks and see them in slow motion aren't
Rikimarox2
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Read the one shot thread (More like skimmed through it), and the basic gist I got is that:
5x ap difference can knock you out if hit in the chest or smth.
13-14x ap difference can fragment your skull.
Make of that as you will. Honestly, id usually say this is a stomp since the gap is so big but considering Yu's speed and ungodly skill advantage, I don't see why a few dozen punches to the neck or a vital area wouldn't at least knock Mikey, especially when Yu is reading him like a book.
5x ap difference can knock you out if hit in the chest or smth.
13-14x ap difference can fragment your skull.
Make of that as you will. Honestly, id usually say this is a stomp since the gap is so big but considering Yu's speed and ungodly skill advantage, I don't see why a few dozen punches to the neck or a vital area wouldn't at least knock Mikey, especially when Yu is reading him like a book.
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Seeing things in slow motion doesn't stop mikey's reactive power which is his direct counter to analytical prediction.
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Yu has no counter to reactive power and what makes him more skilled? His defense is limited to punches he has never fought a skilled kicker or even has leg defensive muscle memory
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He has Reactive power dude
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Won't cover supersonic+ enhanced senses in minutes or hours
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Speed is equalized buddy. And not to mention how Mikey outspeeds via higher Attack Speed.
azontr
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Yu also has reactive power level (which is far better than Mikey's).
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+ I'll tell it again, Yu will use steroids (I assume we are taking the strongest version of Yu in that key) he will be able to outright disappear from Mikey's sight.
read what I wrote, Yu is not your average boxer, don't compare Yu with Osanai, Osanai can't, Yu can dodge those kicks.
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Supersonic+ does not apply to this fight anything dealing with speed is negated. Mikey's hax however negates equalized speed and will just boost his speed until he is fast enough to land his attack.
Rikimarox2
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Which is a non factor here ngl. Yu, ever since his fight against Jean, already had statements of his punches getting stronger and him getting faster. Not to mention that Yu is literally a copy machine lmfao. There's a reason why they gave us an entire chapter where he effortlessly just copied and excelled at things he had never done before.
Mikey ain't touching him.
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That is opinioned. Mikey boosted his speed to someone who could see the future which is far more potent than simply reading attacks and attacking so someone relatively faster than you.
azontr
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You don't know how Boxing or Martial Arts works at all. A Boxer isn't going to freeze up in response to a kick. What they are going to do is either side-step it with footwork, or back up outside of the range of the kick.
Boxing is a Martial Art focused heavily on footwork, so the notion that a Boxer is incapable of dodging basic kicks is an idiotic one at best.
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The problem is that Takemichi reaction is that, if Mikey can hit him in the time his vision ends and him reacting he can stll win lol, here not only speed is equal, but Yu reaction is even higher.
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Why can Mikey negate that but not Yu?
They both have abilities that increase their speed
Mikey is attack speed via DI
And Yu is perception speed via enhanced senses
Once again, Bias
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Kinetic vision is seeing moving things. Great Kinetic Vision is seeing them slower.
Hanma's is too lol.
Mikey's Reactive Power is just better and it's barely a debate. He boosted his speed too much to the point even a guy who can see the future could barely dodge his kicks
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Everything he copied is boxing based . He has no experience outside of that to say he can copy any fighting style. His power mimicry is limited to boxing techniques. Which he can easily copy. He doesnt have the experience to say he just just dodge something he never defended against. Mikey uses kicks, knees, punches and disarticulation/luxation. While constantly getting faster
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Yu has no defense against experienced kickers to say he can "easily" dodge something he hasnt even faced. Mikey is kick based and also uses punches, knees and grapples. Yu has never faced an opponent like that to just assume he can adapt when his skills is only detailed in boxing alone.
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Yu percieveing the world slowly is somehow superior to seeing the future. Really logical.
azontr
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This isn't particularly impressive. Future sight does not make you any faster. It just allows you to react before the opponent attacks, effectively negating the attack. This, however, depends on the physical ability of the attacker. It doesn't allow you to react to attacks faster than yourself.
If anything, Yu is more impressive since even basic analytical prediction in The Boxer allows you to avoid attacks faster than oneself with sheer skill.
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This is just stupid, Yu would just beat the crap out of Mikey before he even do anything
He would just read his moves and counter easily
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Powerscalers not knowing how fighting works, as usual
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Based on what experience? Lol
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TR to be more specificPowerscalers not knowing how fighting works, as usual
azontr
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The fact he OUTSKILLS EVERYONE to the point it's not even funny literally all his fights
This proves you know nothing about the verse and just simply want Mikey to win
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Perceiving the future doesn't mean shit if ur reaction speed sucks lmao.
Like, let's say I can see the future for 1 second or smth and I'm fighting against a dude who's supersonic. It literally doesn't matter if I can see the future since that mofo would blitz me before I can fully act on that vision I got lmao.
Like, let's say I can see the future for 1 second or smth and I'm fighting against a dude who's supersonic. It literally doesn't matter if I can see the future since that mofo would blitz me before I can fully act on that vision I got lmao.
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Wanna know the funny thing? Yu never learnt boxe in first place, he can do that because it's just him being able to do that, and again, he outright demonstrated to read the opponent's legs and shadow, he will see the kick approaching in slow motion and you don't need to be a super pro martial artists to say "yeah, better step aside".
That's nowhere near what I said, my point is another.
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