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Kung Fu Panda : Paws of Destiny Revisions ( Possible Massive Upgrade for High-End Top - God tiers )

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Yeah, we do. Only question is where to place her really.

In her first appearance she stomped the Five but in Crane on a Wire Crane beat her by himself. I think that should be kind of an outlier though given that she beats the Five singlehanded every other time and only Po can match up to her.

So I think Fenghuang should just be equal to base Po without chi augmentation prior to KFP3's endgame, so City Block?
 
You can watch the series via ********, but again, make sure to use a VPN for bittorrent.
 
Also, please use your regular installed anti-virus programs to check if you get any real viruses from that site you linked to earlier.
 
What are the conclusions here?
 
The main conclusions that while the upgradde seems reasonable, people are unsure whether the TV and Movie series , or to scale them separately and make differing profiles since both have Tier 3-2 feats based on what I know so far from reading all the above:

  • Legends of Awesomeness has one Tier 3-2 feat for God-Tiers from Chi Po [The Demons created an object capable of rewriting the universe and Po reverse it using his Hero Chi]
  • The other is Paws of Destiny which technically have three in the span of the series and one of the Demons who performed the tier 2 feat in Legends of Awesomeness is treated as fodder by the Chi Guardians from Paws of Destiny and Po can keep up with it .
  • The KFP 3 Movie has Po casually warping the Spirit Realm which according to guides is at least a universe
  • Several characters escaping the Spirit Realm which requires 3-A to Low 2-C power according to the Guardians of the Wellspring / Previous Four Constellations)
.... So it's far more consistent and needs to be thoroughly looked at.

And also... To refer back to a statement made in this thread:

The Guardians were explaining explicitly it would take a power greater than The Spirit Realm to escape it. No sort of "underhanded meaning" or "deeper understanding" is needed... Becuse according to multiple rewatches of that part of the episode that is truly what they meant... And there is no evidence in that clip it was because of the fact that it was a "metaphor" of some kind .
 
Does anyone have the clips in which the spirit world is warped/universe threatened to be unmade or whatever? This is hard for me to gauge without them.
 
Well, I have not watched the entire Paws of Destiny series yet, so there may be feats there, but I am not willing to upgrade Po to ridiculous degrees based on the previous series and movies.

You also have a history of extreme exaggerations, so I would prefer if other experienced members help out with evaluating the feats.
 
I still disagree heavily with "escaping the spirit world=3-A/low 2-C" due what the statement was.

The other stuff might be fine but I don't know.
 
The universe being unmade comes from the episode "The Eternal Chord."

It establishes the existence of the Eternal and Anti-Chord, which could unmake and reshape the universe respectively.

The Eternal Chord was created as a result of Po's own energy contributing to the Wu Di instruments to save the universe from being unmade, so it's likely the Yaoguai's energy was necessary to create the Anti-Chord as well, and Yaoguai are fodder enemies later on.

Po reality warping the spirit world comes from the third movie, and it's pretty blatant.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I have not watched the entire Paws of Destiny series yet, so there may be feats there, but I am not willing to upgrade Po to ridiculous degrees based on the previous series and movies.

You also have a history of extreme exaggerations, so I would prefer if other experienced members help out with evaluating the feats.
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Let's not base things on past examples Ant. That's very fallacious at the best of times.
 
I would like to say that it's not really a verse-wise thing.

Like this is strictly for the god tier characters, who utilize chi to the fullest extent. Namely Po, Jindiao, the Constellation Pandas, maybe the Panda Village pandas collectively.

Idk I don't think its super far-fetched.
 
Well, it is possible for Paws of Destiny, but not the previous series and movies. I have watched all of them, and do not remember anything like that.

Anyway, we need others to watch all of PoD and then help to evaluate this.
 
Maybe in terms of Legends of Awesomeness (even though there are elements from it that appear in PoD), but Po in KFP3 is pretty much on par with how he was in PoD.
 
He definitely didn't have any explicit universal feats in KFP3.
 
Sure but like.

Paws of Destiny explains that Po was granted Hero's Chi during his battle with Kai. His golden form at the end of 3 was his Hero's Chi which did one of the universal feats described here.
 
Well, the movie itself did not establish anything remotely like that. I think that the two should be kept separate.
 
That makes no sense.

If the power-up Po used in 3 is the same thing used in Paws of Destiny then.

Why should they be kept separate.

Why can't we just have a key for KFP3/Paws of Destiny like we do for 2/Legends of Awesomeness.

Moreover, why does it even matter.
 
A Low 2-C Kai, and everybody who scale to him makes no sense when all that was shown in the movie were tier 8 feats. PoD was a drastic power-up if the claims are accurate.
 
It wouldn't scale to Kai though. He was stomped by Hero Chi Po. There's a difference between Po with Chi augmentation (which happened after the pandas saved Po from Kai), and base Po (Everything else in 3 that Kai would scale to)
 
Kai had warped the Spirit Realm with his chi too though, so either we dismiss the spirit realm warpings as outliers/not applicable to AP or we treat PoD as seperate, which I believe me and The 2nd ES agreed on before.

As a sidenote, I've begun watching Paws of Destiny. The site I use is ***********, though quick warning, it's littered with nsfw ads (and it doesn't let you watch the episode with an adblocker on). Still, it works, and I'll keep a track on anything interesting I find.
 
True, but it's a realm of infinite size iirc so that'd make Kai's AP well above 8-B at least
 
It took him 500 years.

Plus the spirit realm changes depending on the state of the realm itself. Kai causing chaos in the realm to change it isn't the same as Po overcoming that chaos and replacing it with peace with his power.
 
If you want to warp a realm of infinite distance, you'd need infinite power if it took a finite amount of time.

Also by that interpretation, couldn't it just be that by overpowering + defeating Kai, Po has returned balance to the Spirit Realm and removed the source of chaos there?
 
Po reality warped the Spirit Realm before he overpowered and defeated Kai, though.

But OK, if you insist on making a separate key, I think that's fine. Most of these would only apply to characters in PoD anyway.
 
I would prefer if we use a separate key for PoD, yes.

Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, you can find the entire series via ********, but I definitely recommend using a VPN.
 
Finished watching all of Season 1. It had some cool moments, though I would've preferred if old characters that aren't Po and his dads made appearances (Oogway made two appearances, which is cool, but still)

I've got a blog with all my findings from the show. To answer the main question: There are two 'feats' which could be considered High 3-A. Jindiao absorbing the four constellation's chi + the chi from the wellspring, which is stated to be endless, is one of them. The other is Jindiao being able to escape from the Spirit Realm, which is stated to require a power 'greater than the Spirit Ream itself', which is a realm 'with no true boundaries'.

There are other cool feats as well. Po has a cloud parting feat, Jindiao has a couple of big rock busting feats and there's a statement about the constellation turtle being able to stop a meteor from hitting the earth using only his chi.
 
Hmm, "endless" seems like hyperbole given the actual scale of the show. Maybe "Possibly 5-B" based on the turtle preventing the Earth from being destroyed by a meteor would be better?
 
Okay. So what do you suggest?
 
If we don't accept the High 3-A stuff, then Po's cloud parting feat and the meteor feat could probably get high tier 7 or tier 6 results. Do we have a 'baseline' meteor feat?

The wellspring is stated multiple times to be the most powerful source of energy in the universe, and is stated to contain the chi of all living things in the universe. This alone is, at absolute minimum, 8-A for being immensely superior to Po's mastered chi in KFP3.

There's a couple of other rock busting feats, but I doubt they'll get anything beyond low tier 7.
 
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