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Now I'm keeping my King vote because there ain't no way this man is getting off to Sanji's toes
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Now I'm keeping my King vote because there ain't no way this man is getting off to Sanji's toes
I don't have to make a CRT for your inability to understand a manga panel.Ifrit literally is DJ + Buso + Enhanced speed.
That's what Sanji says it is, and that's also what's on Sanji's profile for IJ.
If you think otherwise, make a CRT.
Lmfao.I don't have to make a CRT for your inability to understand a manga panel.
People in glass houses shouldn't try using the Stone-Stone fruit.I don't have to make a CRT for your inability to understand a manga panel.
Eseseso.And Sanji literally created IJ while using enhanced speed.
The speed amps his power, which is an element of Ifrit Jambe.Eseseso.
Ifrit Jambe is Sanji conjuring hot flames. Why would he need to use his enhanced speed to do that?
In the text on the right side of the panel, Sanji was explaining what he was using to increase the power of his kicks, hence why he said "All of which increase strength."
In the text on the left side of the panel, Sanji was explaining what was needed in order for him to use Ifrit, his exoskeleton and his busoshoku so that he won't get melted from the heat.
Ifrit by itself does not need enhanced speed, but he used it against Queen to increase the strength of his attacks.
Dude I literally was debating with him in the CRT I made about Sanji and Queen being on the god-tier level."done by KingTempest himself"
Hop of his dick dude.
No he's not.He's a mod, you're not.
Ironic considering how you got warned by Ant earlier for just thatKachon's trump card is this:
Ad hominem - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Ok, you're right, forgot.No he's not.
At least I'm providing proof for my arguments.Ironic considering how you got warned by Ant earlier for just that
Oh hell naw
Don't ask me why I have this saved
King is also a skilled fighter with a range of abilities including his aerial mobility, strength, durability, and mastery of Haki. Even if Sanji has more feats of Kenbun, King has demonstrated in 2 types of Haki and would be able to use them im combat as his advantage.Bro, Sanji is the most skilled of the two no questions asked, he also has way more kenbu feats.
Also, his Full Zoan form takes a lot from his mobility as it mostly moves in straight lines, different from Base King and Sanji.
King has very bad usage of Kenbun in fights. In-character, he rarely uses it in battles, and in comparison to Sanji who basically has it on 24/7, this is not a wincon at all.King has demonstrated in 2 types of Haki and would be able to use them im combat as his advantage.
LolKing has very bad usage of Kenbun in fights.
Yeah, all of these have been addressed, my last post in the previous page listed all of these as well as Sanji's own advantages.King is also a skilled fighter with a range of abilities including his aerial mobility, strength, durability, and mastery of Haki. Even if Sanji has more feats of Kenbun, King has demonstrated in 2 types of Haki and would be able to use them im combat as his advantage.
First of all X Drake dodging those attacks is literally on the page through aim dodging where his line of site is.Alright.
So right off the bat, we see Base X-Drake react to and dodge attacks from Apoo. Apoo was the same person who could dodge Zoro's hits. Zoro was able to content and was relative in speed with Flame on Base and Zoan forms King.
Pre-Awakening Base Sanji, was only able to react to Zoan X-Drake, but he scales relative in speed to Hybrid Queen who should be at least to his Human form, which was able to tag and put X-Drake down.
All of this proves that Post-Awakening Sanji already scales above Flame On Base and Zoan King.
Now, for Flame Off King, it gets a little bit trickier. We already know that Pre-Awakening Base Sanji scales above Flame Off King in speed and we already know Post-Awakening Base Sanji is faster than Pre-Awakening Base Sanji due to the fact that after his awakening, his Diable Jambe was shown to be faster than it was before then, so the same should apply to his base.
Flame On Base King < Flame On Zoan forms King < Pre-Awakening Base Sanji > Post-Awakening Base Sanji
I also don't know why you're assuming Diable Jambe and by extension Ifrit Jambe are FTE level speed boosts when they're never shown to be throughout the story.Post-Awakening Sanji's FTE's are the following: Enhanced Speed, Diable Jambe, and Ifrit Jambe. Sanji has shown that he can stack his Enhanced Speed with any of these forms.
Post-Awakening Sanji (FTE)< Enhanced Speed
Post-Awakening Sanji (FTE)< Diable Jambe
Post-Awakening Sanji (FTE<)< Ifrit Jambe
Also I'm pretty sure Sanji's fight with King is an outlier as Flame-Off King blitzed Zoro and went FTE to him.Haven't read any of thread so I have no idea if any of this shit has been covered already:
First of all X Drake dodging those attacks is literally on the page through aim dodging where his line of site is.
Idk why you're assuming post-awakening Sanji is faster than pre-awakening when the profiles treat them as equals & Queen never noted he was any faster except with his enhanced speed mode.
There's no reason to use this shitty X Drake speed scaling chain in the first place when we get a direct comparison between Sanji and King when they briefly fought:
Sanji with his Raid Suit which scales above Diable Jambe in speed who matched King and was unable to escape from Zoan King.
I also don't know why you're assuming Diable Jambe and by extension Ifrit Jambe are FTE level speed boosts when they're never shown to be throughout the story.
There's no outlier he just never fought King with his flame-off.Also I'm pretty sure Sanji's fight with King is an outlier as Flame-Off King blitzed Zoro and went FTE to him.
Oh must have been an error on Oda's part.There's no outlier he just never fought King with his flame-off.
I already brought tis up.There's no reason to use this shitty X Drake speed scaling chain in the first place when we get a direct comparison between Sanji and King when they briefly fought:
Sanji with his boosters scale above Diable Jambe.Sanji with his Raid Suit which scales above Diable Jambe in speed who matched King and was unable to escape from Zoan King.
I addressed this already.I also don't know why you're assuming Diable Jambe and by extension Ifrit Jambe are FTE level speed boosts when they're never shown to be throughout the story.
For the stuff you already addressed could you quote it cause I'm not going through 4 pages.I already brought tis up.
Sanji with his boosters scale above Diable Jambe.
I addressed this already.
That's just not true.And like the rest of Germa when he's using the raid Suit he's using the boosters, Sanji's first time using the fruit just to move automatically activated them.
No it wasn't.That 2nd link was literally debunked by Emin
Sure. The Flame On feat stlll happened though.Sanji keeping up with Flame-Off King never happened, Oda forgot to draw the flame on his back.
Pretty sure he said the Raid Suit is above DJ in speed.No it wasn't.
With boosters, which Sanji did not use.Pretty sure he said the Raid Suit is above DJ in speed.