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I searched through some topics related to LoL and didnt find any thread or CRT that accepted 5-D thingy as legit. In fact, I think it doesnt even mention it
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Oblivion Of The Endless said:Bruh moment
You still have not proven anything for Hassan though still nothing with him capable of affecting type 1 AEs and actually that was only because we low balled it with 1 layer while it mentioned multiple layers of existence. It doesnt cripple anythign it simply lowballs it and I posted more evidence above that you still ignored.Hl3 or bust said:That thread actually completely cripples both of your arguments for a 5D LoL.
They were both brought up several times and never even remotely considered to be anything beyond 4D.
So yeah, Hassan just death haxes if this is all the evidence you have.
how hard you hit does not mean anything about the type of existence you are.Hl3 or bust said:Hassan can kill concepts and harm beings comparable to abstracts in terms of how hard they are to hit. Ive already brought this up several times before. Those layers of existence in no way relate to layers of resistances or anything like that from the evidence you have given.
That is literally what you said but ok.Hl3 or bust said:That has nothing to do with anything I said
You are the one who has to prove that those layers go beyond the conceptual
Hassan affected all of Tiamat (Fate) who has 2-A type 3 acausality
Servant Physiology is not a blog, it is an officially accepted page that shows the standard abilities that all Servants have. If you think it's wrong, make a CRT. Everything i have and stated, outside of the 1-A shit which is genuinely just wrong so sorry about that, has been on pages that are, again, officially accepted. Finally, quality is vastly more important than quantitiy when it comes to scans, and none of the ones you or Weekly have posted are of particularly high quality in regards to what you're trying to prove
Mate you truly dont undestand how concepts work, if you can affect a concept it does not mean you can affect a type 1 AE, at most you can affect a type 2, you need to prove you can affect a type 1 AE.Hl3 or bust said:Type 1 AE is being an abstraction or concept
Kindred is a concept
Hassan can kill concepts
******* a m a z i n g isnt it
No there is no CRT to be made you just completely misunderstand how conceptual manip and abstract existences work. I am literally using the page..Hl3 or bust said:Rocker
Being a concept is the reason that 99.99999% of the characters with type 1 AE have it
If you're saying the page is wrong, make a CRt
No I am saying that being able to hit a concept allows you at affect concepts and type 2 abstracts but not type 1 abstracts that is what I am saying, you need to show that you can affect type 1 AEs.Hl3 or bust said:You're literally saying that being able to hit a concept doesn't let you hit a concept
I don't even know how to property react to this
ok please give proof of him affecting a type 2 concept becaus ethis is getting annoying, affecting concepts is not a be all end all, there are 4 types. I need type 2 (or 1) proof then he can affect kindred.Hl3 or bust said:Hassan's death hax works on concepts
End of story
What he has physically hit means nothing here
ok has Hassan done either? that is my question.ThisIsMySwagPack said:Affecting a character with type 1 abstract existence requires you to affect the abstraction itself (or concept), according to the page. By that logic having conceptual manipulation would allow you to affect such beings. Killing type 2 AE being permanently also requires you to affect the abstraction, so I don't see where the problem lies. Unless there was a thread where it was concluded that the only way to affect someone with type 1 AE is to already have a feat of affecting such beings in your verse.
Kindred is so that does not matter.Hl3 or bust said:Not all abstracts are abstracts of type 2 concepts
In relation to whether Hassan can kill type 2 concepts or not, it's weird. Concepts in Nasuverse have properties of types 2, 3, and 4. Like, they're transcendent of reality and unnafectes by the destruction of physical objects, but only apply to specific pockets of reality and are shaped by perception and can be created like type 4 concepts.
I did say that from the start.Milly Rocking Bandit said:But is Hassan cannot hit, this is a stomp.
literally.Rocker1189 said:Last time he lost becuase of his range, it would be the same yet again. He has no way of affecting any kindred beyond the one in the same universe and would get insta gibbed by any of the others. Also they are a type 2 concept, I dont think he can affect that. In other words its a stomp tbh.
Actually they dont even have a concept of death...
Kama only embodies a type 3 so the answer is still no.ThisIsMySwagPack said:Would Hassan be able to affect Kama? If the answer is yes then he can affect Kindred.
God only knows why conceptual manipulation had to be divided into types so that people have an even harder time deciding what kind of conceptual manipulation their verse has. We probably should have given Fate type 2, but we went with type 3 "just to be safe".
I mean she only embodies a concept at the type 3 level. You need type 2 or above for Kindred. And being nonexistent literally doe snot matter to this debate I dont know why it is being brought up.ThisIsMySwagPack said:Type 3 doesn't exist anymore and she is Type 1 Nonexistent, where a character also exists as an idea.
I think he means Abstract existence, type 3 got deleted.Oblivion Of The Endless said:Type 3 concepts exists tho
then with no prove Hassan cant beat Kindred, and its a stomp.Hl3 or bust said:Nasuverse concepts are not any definite type. They are listed as Unknown on several pages because they possess properties that are contradictory for any category.