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FBE's effectiveness against a domain is a case-by-case basis
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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It depends
FBE cannot protect you from complex techniques and you can still get superficial damage, while SD can protect you 100% as long as its not destroyed and make you use CT
FBE cannot protect you from complex techniques and you can still get superficial damage, while SD can protect you 100% as long as its not destroyed and make you use CT
Arkenis
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I'm talking about the destruction aspect, there isn't anything case by case from what we know
EldemadeDityjon
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FBE is literally stated to be useless against Gojo's domain.
SD doesn't get torn as long User keeps the feet on the ground. FBE still takes the damage from Sukuna's Domain sure hit.
Gojo's SD got destroyed because he was moving around. You can even see Sukuna trying to lift Gojo's leg so that he can destroy his SD.
EldemadeDityjon
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Both SD and HWB.
Kuskabae is the only one so far stated to be ignore the SD requirement for keeping foot on the ground and use it freely.
Most likely Kenjaku can do that too.
FBE is just autocounter. It depends on users CE whole SD from even Miwa and Ino can survive Sukuna's Domain.
Arkenis
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Again, for the last time, I am talking about it withstanding the domain itself. Not the sure hit.
Arkenis
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What the hell are you talking about??
EldemadeDityjon
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This I should be asking you. What the hell are you talking about when you say withstanding the domain itself not sure hit means
What else is there to withstand inside the domain if not for the sure hit?
Arkenis
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Domains rip apart SD barriers depending how strong it is. FBE can't be ripped apart by Domains.
EldemadeDityjon
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FBE is more usable when comes to Sorcerers like Gojo who has high output and durability.
Domains rip apart SD barriers depending how strong it is. FBE can't be ripped apart by Domains.
Even strongest modern day Sorcerer got some level damage with FBE usage
Then we have Ino and Miwa not even getting a single scratch with SD usage.
You can't be serious about Miwa or Ino using FBE to tank Sukuna's domain sure hit like Gojo did & getting away with some scratches.
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Ino my goat...
EldemadeDityjon
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BTW, I'm not saying SD is better than FBE, but SD and HWB at least buy some time, whereas FBE is more useful against characters with a domain that has a physical sure hit. Against information type sure hits, FBE is completely useless. At least you can survive inside Gojo's domain for a few seconds or minutes, depending on who is using SD, but an FBE user gets cooked within milliseconds inside UV nonetheless. That's my point.
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This is a requirement of the technique? Beginners impose vows upon themselves to be able to use. Miwa established upon herself that the domain will break if she doesn't keep both feet on the ground. I don't think it's a general rule, only beginners need it.
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But it can't be torn apart unlike SD can by the domain.
It depends on the output so no I wouldn't say that. Understand most ct depend on output to be useful.
Yeah okay... but majority of the verses domains are physical sure hits, why even make such a point when its not the norm and clearly not what Kusakabe was referring to when he says it won't be torn apart.
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah you're right. I was wrong about that.
EldemadeDityjon
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Let's say FBE user has same output as Domain user
Getting cooked inside these Domains
- Naoya
- Mahito
- Yuta - Depending on the sure hit. But he should be able to cook FBE user with CS & Sky manipulation
- Uro
- Gojo
- Higuruma
- Yuji
- Hanami - Depends / Her domain sure hit might be big energy beam like Rika and Ryu so not sure
- Jogo - Cooked? Because of the Temperature?
- Kenjaku - cooks? Gravity should ignore the autocounter?
Dagon
Ryu
Sukuna
Hakari
EldemadeDityjon
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Damn we are struck with Werry Translation this week? 
Where is TCB translation.
Where is TCB translation.
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Just reread all of HxH
Kinda insane how JJK and HxH have a LOT of similarities, the inspirations are clear, and I could say that most of the criticism that JJK recives could apply to HxH (Lack of character interactions, way too many vague stuff, a lot of "potential man", no great female character, "binding vow bullshit", useless characters, etc), but HxH is technically still going on, so it still has time, and while Gege tries to always limit the world building, Togashi always tries to make it bigger
But its good that Gege doesn't make fights like Togashi lol
Kinda insane how JJK and HxH have a LOT of similarities, the inspirations are clear, and I could say that most of the criticism that JJK recives could apply to HxH (Lack of character interactions, way too many vague stuff, a lot of "potential man", no great female character, "binding vow bullshit", useless characters, etc), but HxH is technically still going on, so it still has time, and while Gege tries to always limit the world building, Togashi always tries to make it bigger
But its good that Gege doesn't make fights like Togashi lol
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Why would any of these besides Gojo's, Mahito's and Hig not get targeted by fbe? FBE depends on the complexity of the domain. Noticed how you named Naoya's where the sure hit is literally a reel being implanted into them, Uro's which we never see, Yuji's which we also don't see. Like I said its not the norm and you filled it with nonsense.
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Yuji just has bootleg Malevolent Shrine
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Pretty sure you can't use a Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification.
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Flowing Blossom Emotion and Simple Domains both have their strengths and trade-offs bruh. Simple Domain makes you completely invulnerable to sure-hit effects but can get torn apart pretty quickly by strong domains while FBE's activation status cannot be affected by domains with the trade off being that the user can still get hurt depending on the difference in the domain's output and their own output, sure hit effects that aren't physical attacks like UV's info overload can't be countered and physical attacks from the domain's caster that aren't linked to the domain can still go through. FBE was the better option for Gojo since it reduced Malevolent Shrine's onslaught to a papercuts that could be healed quickly and let him reset his burnt out CT faster whereas his Simple Domain breaking during round 1 of the Domain clashing put him in genuine danger of losing.
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I'm saying like, what if he tore Gojo's stomach, and while his hand in inside the hole, he desactivate the domain amplification, and then uses Cleave
Aka, "Can Infinity repel things that are already inside Gojo?'
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Oh. Good question.
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Probably not
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Naoya's domain sure hit is not physical like Dagon's Shikigami. It sets up a condition so I don't see what is there to get automatically countered. The reel you're talking about doesn't cause any physical damage like Dagon's Shikigami. They took zero damage from the reel; it just entered their body and set up the sure-hit effect.
They even thought Naoya missed them. It's seemed like they didn't even felt the reel entering the body.
FBE requires attack coming to contact with the users CE. So definitely Naoya Domain ignores FBE autocounter conditions.
Characters can put CT for their sure hit. So thin ice breaker would just ignore durability. It's not getting autocountered with CE
Yuji soul dismantle goes gg.
Dude, you just don't understand which sure hit can ignore durability and which can damage its opponent with pure raw power, that's all. So it seems like nonsense to you.
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Excuse me but may ya follow me eldemade? I got something to ask if you don’t mindDamn we are struck with Werry Translation this week?
Where is TCB translation.
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Oh God, I was listening to Judas (you know, Sukuna vs Gojo music) when I loaded this thread on the phone lmao
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Arkenis
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The reel is the surehit. Done with this nonsense.
You're a troll. The reels LITERALLY TOUCH THEM.
Yeah no duh yet we have no idea how that looks in domain. And no it doesn't ignore durability and that doesn't even matter. Ice Breaker also seems to be an extension of the ct not the main ct, the main ct is the spatial interaction. Regardless the point is that you're using something we have no idea about to support your argument.
You're trolling. But go ahead and prove Yuji's MAIN surehit is soul dismantle not him selectively changing his target (something we have no idea if he can do in domain)
Are you reading your own fanfic where Yuji solos Hakari, Maki and Yuta? Stop.
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ATP are they even a trio or is it just Yuji doing a Solo act with 2 extras?
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Gege never stated because it doesnt lmao, its funny how you guys says "subtext!!" When gojo was literally explaining exactly how d.a works on chap 227 but he never says that it was d.a increasing output
and bro, just read chap 226 and you will see why his output was increasing, sukuna was simply playing and using low output with a ****** gojo, but once gojo managed to tie things a little bit, he increases output to win domain clash, AND WINS
Anyways, im tired of arguing abt d.a, i was simply saying that if gojo have MHS+ perceptions, Sukuna has MHS+ speed too, otherwise sukuna would be in slow mo for gojo (you can see at chap 224, where gojo was at prime 100% and yet sukuna was still throwing hands, so " being nerfed" is not a anti feat
Arkenis
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Gege can at least brag about having the worst trio in shonen history. Removes one for 100+ chapters, makes one reduced to a side character close to the end of the manga, and then removes another from the mangas last arc.
Arkenis
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He doesn't need to say it AGAIN when he told us the beginning of the manga "yeah domains buff stats lol".
I guess, but we've already made Kashimo's abilities keep their speed and not grant Hakari mhs speed off reacting to them. It can just be scrapped if anything.
