Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

Domains rip apart SD barriers depending how strong it is. FBE can't be ripped apart by Domains.

FBE is more usable when comes to Sorcerers like Gojo who has high output and durability.

Even strongest modern day Sorcerer got some level damage with FBE usage

Then we have Ino and Miwa not even getting a single scratch with SD usage.

You can't be serious about Miwa or Ino using FBE to tank Sukuna's domain sure hit like Gojo did & getting away with some scratches.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Ino my goat...

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

BTW, I'm not saying SD is better than FBE, but SD and HWB at least buy some time, whereas FBE is more useful against characters with a domain that has a physical sure hit. Against information type sure hits, FBE is completely useless. At least you can survive inside Gojo's domain for a few seconds or minutes, depending on who is using SD, but an FBE user gets cooked within milliseconds inside UV nonetheless. That's my point.

 

[GTsek]

Kuskabae is the only one so far stated to be ignore the SD requirement for keeping foot on the ground and use it freely.

This is a requirement of the technique? Beginners impose vows upon themselves to be able to use. Miwa established upon herself that the domain will break if she doesn't keep both feet on the ground. I don't think it's a general rule, only beginners need it.

 

[Arkenis]

Even strongest modern day Sorcerer got some level damage with FBE usage

But it can't be torn apart unlike SD can by the domain.

You can't be serious about Miwa or Ino using FBE to tank Sukuna's domain sure hit like Gojo did & getting away with some scratches.

It depends on the output so no I wouldn't say that. Understand most ct depend on output to be useful.

BTW, I'm not saying SD is better than FBE, but SD and HWB at least buy some time, whereas FBE is more useful against characters with a domain that has a physical sure hit. Against information type sure hits, FBE is completely useless. At least you can survive inside Gojo's domain for a few seconds or minutes, depending on who is using SD, but an FBE user gets cooked within milliseconds inside UV nonetheless. That's my point.

Yeah okay... but majority of the verses domains are physical sure hits, why even make such a point when its not the norm and clearly not what Kusakabe was referring to when he says it won't be torn apart.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

This is a requirement of the technique? Beginners impose vows upon themselves to be able to use. Miwa established upon herself that the domain will break if she doesn't keep both feet on the ground. I don't think it's a general rule, only beginners need it.

Yeah you're right. I was wrong about that.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

But it can't be torn apart unlike SD can by the domain.


It depends on the output so no I wouldn't say that. Understand most ct depend on output to be useful.


Yeah okay... but majority of the verses domains are physical sure hits, why even make such a point when its not the norm and clearly not what Kusakabe was referring to when he says it won't be torn apart.

Let's say FBE user has same output as Domain user
Getting cooked inside these Domains

• Naoya
• Mahito
• Yuta - Depending on the sure hit. But he should be able to cook FBE user with CS & Sky manipulation
• Uro
• Gojo
• Higuruma
• Yuji

Not sure

• Hanami - Depends / Her domain sure hit might be big energy beam like Rika and Ryu so not sure
• Jogo - Cooked? Because of the Temperature?
• Kenjaku - cooks? Gravity should ignore the autocounter?

Can survive these guys Domains
Dagon
Ryu
Sukuna
Hakari

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Damn we are struck with Werry Translation this week?
Where is TCB translation.

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Just reread all of HxH

Kinda insane how JJK and HxH have a LOT of similarities, the inspirations are clear, and I could say that most of the criticism that JJK recives could apply to HxH (Lack of character interactions, way too many vague stuff, a lot of "potential man", no great female character, "binding vow bullshit", useless characters, etc), but HxH is technically still going on, so it still has time, and while Gege tries to always limit the world building, Togashi always tries to make it bigger

But its good that Gege doesn't make fights like Togashi lol

 

[Arkenis]

• Naoya
• Mahito
• Yuta - Depending on the sure hit. But he should be able to cook FBE user with CS & Sky manipulation
• Uro
• Gojo
• Higuruma
• Yuji

Why would any of these besides Gojo's, Mahito's and Hig not get targeted by fbe? FBE depends on the complexity of the domain. Noticed how you named Naoya's where the sure hit is literally a reel being implanted into them, Uro's which we never see, Yuji's which we also don't see. Like I said its not the norm and you filled it with nonsense.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yuji just has bootleg Malevolent Shrine

 

[Damage3245]

If Sukuna put his hand inside Gojo with Domain Amplification could he use Cleave even without Domain Amplification

Pretty sure you can't use a Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Pretty sure you can't use a Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification.

Meanwhile Sukuna:

 

[SunDaGamer]

Flowing Blossom Emotion and Simple Domains both have their strengths and trade-offs bruh. Simple Domain makes you completely invulnerable to sure-hit effects but can get torn apart pretty quickly by strong domains while FBE's activation status cannot be affected by domains with the trade off being that the user can still get hurt depending on the difference in the domain's output and their own output, sure hit effects that aren't physical attacks like UV's info overload can't be countered and physical attacks from the domain's caster that aren't linked to the domain can still go through. FBE was the better option for Gojo since it reduced Malevolent Shrine's onslaught to a papercuts that could be healed quickly and let him reset his burnt out CT faster whereas his Simple Domain breaking during round 1 of the Domain clashing put him in genuine danger of losing.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Pretty sure you can't use a Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification.

If Sukuna put his hand inside Gojo with Domain Amplification could he use Cleave even without Domain Amplification

I'm saying like, what if he tore Gojo's stomach, and while his hand in inside the hole, he desactivate the domain amplification, and then uses Cleave

Aka, "Can Infinity repel things that are already inside Gojo?'

 

[Damage3245]

I'm saying like, what if he tore Gojo's stomach, and while his hand in inside the hole, he desactivate the domain amplification, and then uses Cleave

Aka, "Can Infinity repel things that are already inside Gojo?'

Oh. Good question.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I'm saying like, what if he tore Gojo's stomach, and while his hand in inside the hole, he desactivate the domain amplification, and then uses Cleave

Aka, "Can Infinity repel things that are already inside Gojo?'

Probably not

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Noticed how you named Naoya's where the sure hit is literally a reel being implanted into them,

Naoya's domain sure hit is not physical like Dagon's Shikigami. It sets up a condition so I don't see what is there to get automatically countered. The reel you're talking about doesn't cause any physical damage like Dagon's Shikigami. They took zero damage from the reel; it just entered their body and set up the sure-hit effect.
They even thought Naoya missed them. It's seemed like they didn't even felt the reel entering the body.

FBE requires attack coming to contact with the users CE. So definitely Naoya Domain ignores FBE autocounter conditions.

Uro's which we never see,

Characters can put CT for their sure hit. So thin ice breaker would just ignore durability. It's not getting autocountered with CE

Yuji's which we also don't see.

Yuji soul dismantle goes gg.

Like I said its not the norm and you filled it with nonsense.

Dude, you just don't understand which sure hit can ignore durability and which can damage its opponent with pure raw power, that's all. So it seems like nonsense to you.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Arkenis Vs Elde is our Sukuna Vs Gojo.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Damn we are struck with Werry Translation this week?
Where is TCB translation.

Excuse me but may ya follow me eldemade? I got something to ask if you don’t mind

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Arkenis Vs Elde is our Sukuna Vs Gojo.

Oh God, I was listening to Judas (you know, Sukuna vs Gojo music) when I loaded this thread on the phone lmao

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[Arkenis]

Naoya's domain sure hit is not physical like Dagon's Shikigami. It sets up a condition so I don't see what is there to get automatically countered. The reel you're talking about doesn't cause any physical damage like Dagon's Shikigami. They took zero damage from the reel; it just entered their body and set up the sure-hit effect.

The reel is the surehit. Done with this nonsense.

FBE requires attack coming to contact with the users CE. So definitely Naoya Domain ignores FBE autocounter conditions.

You're a troll. The reels LITERALLY TOUCH THEM.

Characters can put CT for their sure hit. So thin ice breaker would just ignore durability. It's not getting autocountered with CE

Yeah no duh yet we have no idea how that looks in domain. And no it doesn't ignore durability and that doesn't even matter. Ice Breaker also seems to be an extension of the ct not the main ct, the main ct is the spatial interaction. Regardless the point is that you're using something we have no idea about to support your argument.

Yuji soul dismantle goes gg.

You're trolling. But go ahead and prove Yuji's MAIN surehit is soul dismantle not him selectively changing his target (something we have no idea if he can do in domain)
Are you reading your own fanfic where Yuji solos Hakari, Maki and Yuta? Stop.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

ATP are they even a trio or is it just Yuji doing a Solo act with 2 extras?

 

[LIGHTYW]

Right I forgot, everything needs to be stated for you JJK readers lmao.


Show us the connection.

Gege never stated because it doesnt lmao, its funny how you guys says "subtext!!" When gojo was literally explaining exactly how d.a works on chap 227 but he never says that it was d.a increasing output

and bro, just read chap 226 and you will see why his output was increasing, sukuna was simply playing and using low output with a ****** gojo, but once gojo managed to tie things a little bit, he increases output to win domain clash, AND WINS

Anyways, im tired of arguing abt d.a, i was simply saying that if gojo have MHS+ perceptions, Sukuna has MHS+ speed too, otherwise sukuna would be in slow mo for gojo (you can see at chap 224, where gojo was at prime 100% and yet sukuna was still throwing hands, so " being nerfed" is not a anti feat

 

[Arkenis]

Gege can at least brag about having the worst trio in shonen history. Removes one for 100+ chapters, makes one reduced to a side character close to the end of the manga, and then removes another from the mangas last arc.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Megumi was also removed from the story for like 50 chapters or something.

 

[Arkenis]

Gege never stated because it doesnt lmao, its funny how you guys says "subtext!!" When gojo was literally explaining exactly how d.a works on chap 227 but he never says that it was d.a increasing output

He doesn't need to say it AGAIN when he told us the beginning of the manga "yeah domains buff stats lol".

Anyways, im tired of arguing abt d.a, i was simply saying that if gojo have MHS+ perceptions, Sukuna has MHS+ speed too, otherwise sukuna would be in slow mo for gojo (you can see at chap 224, where gojo was at prime 100% and yet sukuna was still throwing hands, so " being nerfed" is not a anti feat

I guess, but we've already made Kashimo's abilities keep their speed and not grant Hakari mhs speed off reacting to them. It can just be scrapped if anything.

 

[Arkenis]

When even the JJK wiki acknowledges the film reels as the sure hits Eldemade just can't be taken seriously. I come here amazed at his arguments every single day.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Just realized that I hate Sukuna's tattoos
Why they even exist

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Gege can at least brag about having the worst trio in shonen history. Removes one for 100+ chapters, makes one reduced to a side character close to the end of the manga, and then removes another from the mangas last arc.

best part is the trio wasn’t even bad pre-Shibuya then something in Gege snapped that he’s gotta make his trio notoriously bad

 

[Arkenis]

best part is the trio wasn’t even bad pre-Shibuya then something in Gege snapped that he’s gotta make his trio notoriously bad

Yeah they had some nice moments. OOO arc probably my favorite for them all. I honestly don't get why he dropped Megumi and Nobara in Shibuya. He didn't need them doing stuff like winning against Mahito like Yuji but Nobara getting beat by Haruta and then not being important in beating Mahito was unfortunate. Idk what he tried with Megumi.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yeah they had some nice moments. OOO arc probably my favorite for them all. I honestly don't get why he dropped Megumi and Nobara in Shibuya. He didn't need them doing stuff like winning against Mahito like Yuji but Nobara getting beat by Haruta and then not being important in beating Mahito was unfortunate. Idk what he tried with Megumi.

Was Megumi sidelined so hard that you forgot he had one of the best fights in the series against Reggie?

 

[Arkenis]

Was Megumi sidelined so hard that you forgot he had one of the best fights in the series against Reggie?

Nope, just makes it so much more unfortunate we didn't get more of that from him.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Nope, just makes it so much more unfortunate we didn't get more of that from him.

I agree

 

[LIGHTYW]

He doesn't need to say it AGAIN when he told us the beginning of the manga "yeah domains buff stats lol".


I guess, but we've already made Kashimo's abilities keep their speed and not grant Hakari mhs speed off reacting to them. It can just be scrapped if anything.

Man, the only reason why amplification is compared with domain is because you use the barrier of a domain to negate CT and sure hit, but its never stated that it has the exactly same properties and can buff stats like a domain, why wouldnt people like yuji just spam d.a if would make him stronger

Infact, gojo himself on shibuya states that using amplification is like youre being surrounded by water and even increase th chance of missing attacks

And the kashimo thing is different, Gojo has MHS+ perceptions, sukuna being able to throw hands with gojo and even being faster at close h2h just proves he has MHS+speeds, if sukuna had Hypersonic speeds, gojo would perceive him as a snail, the difference of speed is like, 200x slower?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Just realized that I hate Sukuna's tattoos
Why they even exist

Cause he prob had to have more to his design and this mf is shirtless 90% of the time so might as well add something else to make him more visually interesting

Either that or Gege liked the tattoos

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

He deserves something to have the level of patience to draw these tattoos so many times

 

[Arkenis]

Man, the only reason why amplification is compared with domain is because you use the barrier of a domain to negate CT and sure hit, but its never stated that it has the exactly same properties and can buff stats like a domain

"Its a more REFINED simple domain", Oh look "Within this Domain my cursed energy output will get a boost". Simple Domain is a Domain Expansion, just simplified (name is very misleading), Domain Amplification is a more refined Simple Domain.

why wouldnt people like yuji just spam d.a if would make him stronger

Maybe because most besides Yuji (till awakening), have really good ct and Domain Amplification restricts one's innate ct use. Also Domain Amp is hard to use considering not even Kusakabe could do it.