- 11,972
- 11,581
Jonathan's Calc
Jonathan's calc yields 0.400 tons, and due to this version of Jonathan being weaker than Pre Deep Pass, since it's basically Hamonless, the scaling changes. Dio currently scales 5 times above Jack's calc, but now he will scale 5 times above this Jonathan calc.Dio = Post Deep Pass Jonathan (5x) > Pre Deep Pass Jonathan > Wang > Hamonless Jonathan = 0.400 tons.
Wang is weaker than Training Jonathan, but can wound Hamonless Jonathan, who of course, withstood the ship exploding, 0.400 tons durability, hence the scaling (Not like Wang is stronger than Tarkus or Jack anyhow, who have 8-C feats as well).
Or, to be exact, Peak Part 1 characters become 2.003762911486 tons (Just Peak Dio and Post Deep Pass Jonathan), the weakest High 8-C's on the site.
Of course Jack and Tarkus have 8-C feats that bridge this gap quite nicely as well and the scaling with them still applies and the other characters stay where they are just like, a few percent stronger now.
Scaling
Part 1Rest of Part 1 lads scales to 0.400 tons and the 0.360 tons calc is a supporting feat.
Part 2
- Santana
- Joseph Joestar (Durability)
Characters of Part 3 has their 8-C+ rating because they downscaled to DIO's 1.85 tons feat, now they downscale from 2 tons. Downscaling:
- Emerald Splash
- Silver Chariot (At least 8-C, likely 8-C+)
- Magician's Red (His likely rating)
- King Crimson (At least High 8-C, far higher)
Then some Stands downscales from King Crimson, like Sticky Fingers. GE would scale and so on, but we should discuss if downscaling from a 2 tons dude is 8-C+ or normal 8-C, alternatively, we just scale them to some 8-C feats done by Stands around their caliber, if need be if we want to be extremely conservative.
Dark Blue Moon Calc
DBM creates a whirlpool and the result is 6.3 tons of TNT. This feat may act as a supporting feat anyway if we go with RHCP scaling, but at minimum, this is the baseline our our scaling proposition for the God Tiers.Scaling
Part 3- Star Platinum
- Enraged Star Platinum
- Peak Rage Star Platinum
- The World
- High The World
- Dark Blue Moon
- Anubis (Post Khan)
- Enraged Crazy Diamond
Red Hot Chili Pepper Morioh-Cho Energy
This one isn't as straightforward (It actually is but it's just less straightforward compared to Plat ripping the head off a High 8-C).During Part 4, Akira Otoshi, Red Hot Chili Pepper user, talks about how Star Platinum is the Ultimate Stand, and even years after Part 4, JoJoveller still says that Star Platinum is the strongest Stand in Part 4, and Akira himself recognized him as the strongest Stand atop of him being the number 1 in power stated no less than 4 times for Part 4. Even in different guides that came around ~at the same time Part 4 was releasing, states that Star Platinum is the strongest Stand there, the manga claims that Star Platinum is also the number 1 in power, even saying he is the strongest Stand known to man. Everything besides one scan is after Red Hot Chili Pepper got the Morioh energy amp, and that one scan gets reiterated after the fact anyway. And this is just for Part 4 Plat, if we added Part 3 Plat statements then holy shit lads.
To further that, it's made perfectly clear that Akira absolutely doesn't want to encounter Jotaro, between the precision, time stop and the fact he's tough as ****, he doesn't want to risk it, he's constantly doing everything in his power to avoid him, if RHCP could just get an amp whenever, walk up to Jotaro, and proceed to floor him, he absolutely would, but he doesn't, why? You know why (It's because even if he could it would be extremely dangerous and something he might not be capable of).
But it goes even further, he doesn't just want to avoid Jotaro, he's terrified of him, and he's only scared of Jotaro, everyone else? yeah no he's fine with, Jotaro though? ******* scared shitless of him. Koichi outright states that Akira is mortified, and we even get a glimpse of it, with Jotaro going to visit him in jail, and Akira cowering in fear and blatantly promising he won't do anything else to cause Jotaro trouble and he'd be a good boy (Which he does, he does his time and gets out sometime before Thus Spoke).
But speaking of Koichi, Koichi is absolutely baffled that SHA could take Star Platinum's blows, saying nothing can withstand Star Platinum's power and as such, SHA is the toughest Stand he's ever seen. (He also kinda reiterates it later, saying that SHA got damaged even though not even Plat could, thus, it must have been the user that got hurt instead, which he's right about). Why is that important? Because he knows RHCP can amp itself, and was standing right there and watched RHCP knock CD on its ass, he knows what RHCP can do, and he still thinks nothing can stand up to Star Platinum's power and because SHA did it's the most durable Stand he's ever seen.
Basically, this all implies that Star Platinum, is AT LEAST, around RHCP's maximum output, between numerous "he's the strongest" lines some of which are in the Part 4 manga itself, Akira himself think Plat is the strongest Stand and is absolutely mortified of Jotaro and basically refuses to engage him in combat no matter what and those that seen RHCP in action and knows what it's capable of thinking nothing can compete with Star Platinum and if such a thing did exist, it'd be above anything he's ever seen, so yeah, best I can do is Plat is at likely around RHCP's maximum potential.
Scaling chain is the same from the DBM calc. They all become High 8-C+. Star Platinum would also scale to SHA, which is ~7 tons now. So, Star Platinum, The World and their amped versions would scale to 3 calcs and one scaling: DBM 6.3 tons calc, RHCP 7.83 tons, SHA 7.54 tons and DIO being 5 times the 0.400 tons calc, which is 2 tons.
SHA
SHA in Part 8 goes boom, Part 4 SHA should scale more or less, as Part 4 and 8 KQ have the exact same bomb/explosion ability just with different activation methods, as stated by JoJoveller. Plat was able to take a blast at pointblank, and while his guard was broken, he did take it quite fine. (Jotaro on the other hand was nearly killed, but obviously Plat >>>>>>>>>>> Jotaro in durability). And Plat having his guard broken is usually indication of "yeah they're about him in power", see The World breaking Plat's guard and enraged CD breaking Plat's guard, both are ultimately weaker than Plat, but it shows comparability, what matters though is Plat took the blast head on, wasn't harmed a whole lot, and the damage only came when it ended up reaching Jotaro himself. But yeah, Plat "tanked" SHA pointblank in his face and got out of it with only a broken guard, and a near dead Jotaro but that happened after the guard was broken and the blast struck Jotaro directly.But you can ignore this if you want, it's just support and precedence to High 8-C Plat, if we ignore this, the above shit still exists, this would just be a extra thing to add as support. (And if the above goes through, SHA would scale to High 8-C anyway, almost the exact same yield that Part 8 SHA has, so no matter how you slice it).
White Album
White Album has a pretty blatant High 8-C freezing feat, only issue is that it's done via freezing and unlike someone like Magician's Red, it's kinda hard to scale it to anyone not named GER (Who's stated to exceed all Stands in attack power).The feat in question, 3.671 Tons of TNT.
I'm just pointing out that the feat exists, and White Album isn't considered God Tier in Stand Power, though he's up there. Unless we take the obligatory "strongest/most powerful" statements to put Plat and King Crimson above White Album's Stand Power output. It doesn't matter, if the above feats are given the ok, they'd scale above it, White Album would just be support and precedence (it's like 4 tons of TNT, so below what they would be, but also solid support to it).
Anyhow, just pointing out other High 8-C feats do indeed exist in general.
Changes
Star Platinum changesKing Crimson changes
The World/DIO changes
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