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is it just me or is that like very balantly not his doing?Tarkus slices a cliff
This calc currently uses violent fragmentation to get a result of 0.71 Tons however, we use pulverization for slicing feats that leave behind a smooth cut as is the case here.
Only Post-Deep Pass Jonathan and Part 1 Dio have scaling to Tarkus as is established on their profiles.
Are you asking if the dude swinging his sword so goddamn hard that it emits a dbz-ass slash that extends across the whole cliff, creating a perfectly smooth sheen of a slice upon a cliff wall, is his doingis it just me or is that like very balantly not his doing?
he is even asking what's happening and what's the crack,that just seems like a chain reaction that was caused by the sword cracking the ground
you sure that's usable?
thats one hell of a coincidence and chain reaction thenis it just me or is that like very balantly not his doing?
he is even asking what's happening and what's the crack,that just seems like a chain reaction that was caused by the sword cracking the ground
you sure that's usable?
More like a One Piece-ass slash. DBZ don't got a lot of sword projectilesdbz-ass slash
Yeah the closest is like Janemba and game Tapion.More like a One Piece-ass slash. DBZ don't got a lot of word projectiles
...nah, force doesn't propogate like that, the crack was bending like a god damn snake, for an actual perfect and clean cut that makes sens and doesn't bend slashing attacks with enough shear strenght behind them to overpower the shear stress of the material geting cut are what's needed,Are you asking if the dude swinging his sword so goddamn hard that it emits a dbz-ass slash that extends across the whole cliff, creating a perfectly smooth sheen of a slice upon a cliff wall, is his doing
Dude, it's manga, do you know what a chain reaction is? Because a golden beam of light coming from the tip of his blade, to blatantly demonstrate, hey, he did a thing, ain't no chain reaction....nah, force doesn't propogate like that, the crack was bending like a god damn snake, for an actual perfect and clean cut that makes sens and doesn't bend slashing attacks with enough shear strenght behind them to overpower the shear stress of the material geting cut are what's needed,
Which it did? Why the hell do you think the cliff face is nice a smooth?if all the above crteria is met something like this is what should happen,
And yet did, doesn't change the fact it was from Tarkus slashing.the crack won't bend like what the feat is showing us,
Which he did, and crack? Why do you think it's cracking apart? It's because the force of his swing split it apart dude.in fact there won't even be a crack, he will just shear trough the rock,
What the actual **** do you mean he didn't slash.that's why i said it's a chain reaction since blud didn't even slash, he just stabbed the ground
He says, ignoring the big ass light wave that extends from the blade, the fact the destruction is attributed to Tarkus, and the fact the damn feat is a calback to thiswhich seemed to have served as a precipitation for a fracture that develops on it's own which caused the rock formation to split after absorbing a modest amount of energy
Actual awful example, you realize the ONLY reason why that's possible in the above video is due to the fact they spent ample time comprimising the rock's integrity, hence the, ya know, line of stakes, they pummled in, in a line.,and yes, something like that can net you an exceeding clean cut like this, now, if it would have been that clean you could probably argue probability and stuff ( since the only reason the cleavage shown in the vid went in a straight line was because the pieces that precipitated the fracture were already aligned beforehand) but the crack very visibly diverges at an angle and changes directions as it keeps going,...idk what to tell you, that can't happen if he actually slashed with enough force to split the rock formation in half, that's just not how it works
What in the actual bloody **** are you talking about?also in this case the fact that the rocks are next to water makes it worse since water does a good job at ******* up a rocks's microstructure, the one they were standing on seemed to be full of cracks so that helps my point me thinks
Basically everything, no offense. Objectively wrong things, such as it not being a slash, the rest is actual grasping and mental gymnastics like microwater damage? Unless you have actual straight confirmation it was chain-reaction, don't waste my time, I legitimately don't have the time to argue back and forth about an exceptionally mundane feat because you think it's some sort of natural failure when the mf is basically doing his best Saber impression.anyways, feel free to correct my bullshit if there is any
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Dude, it's manga, do you know what a chain reaction is? Because a golden beam of light coming from the tip of his blade, to blatantly demonstrate, hey, he did a thing, ain't no chain reaction.
He slashes, a crack, from his blade mind you, extends outward, creates a rift, and we see the cliff become a nice sheen.
It twisting doesn't matter, if anything, that just tells us it's on him, not some natural chain reaction.
Which it did? Why the hell do you think the cliff face is nice a smooth?
Hell here for example, an exra shot of the cliff falling from where it was cut, nice and smooth. And then extra confirmation it was on Tarkus. I'm not sure why this needs to be explained.
And yet did, doesn't change the fact it was from Tarkus slashing.
Which he did, and crack? Why do you think it's cracking apart? It's because the force of his swing split it apart dude.
Mind you, in the EXACT SAME feat, LITERALLY the same swing,
We see Tarkus merely lifting his blade and swinging it generates intense air pressure and cleaves the air, and you're surprised the next page that very same swing emits enough force to extend, from HIS BLADE mind you, a rift that cleaves the cliff???
What the actual **** do you mean he didn't slash.
His slash emitted so much wind we could see the the gust blow past the squad, he rose it above his head, and slashed downward. My dude, how is THIS not a slash.
No offense, but you legit just outted yourself as not knowing what you're talking about, the very fact you said he just stabbed the ground, when the very prior page has him reel up, swing it in a arc, and generate a fuckton of pressure from it, tells me you haven't actually read what you're arguing.
He says, ignoring the big ass light wave that extends from the blade, the fact the destruction is attributed to Tarkus, and the fact the damn feat is a calback to this
But on crack because he's inhuman now
Actual grasping at straws and even ignoring narrative context
Actual awful example, you realize the ONLY realize why that's possible in the above video is due to the fact they spent ample time comprimising the rock's integrity, hence the, ya know, line of stakes, they pummled in, in a line.
That is not the same as Tarkus, who struck one spot, and then from his sword, a goddamn excaliblast or whatever emits, and cleaves the cliff.
And not to mention, the rock Tarkus is dealing with is bedrock,
Extremely rough, jagged, bedrock mind you, and you think his blade, just so happened to miraclusly do a nice clean cut? Extend tens of meters, beyond poini of impact, ONLY in the direction he swung at that, not even behind him like an actual fracture would surely do if all it was was integrity failure.
What in the actual bloody **** are you talking about?
You realize Tarkus sliced the very EDGE of the cliff face, after they moved away from where Bruford died? To a higher elevation, because reminder, they were at the top, meanwhile the lake is a solid 10-15m below the top of the quarry.
Also are you for real right now? This is beyond reaching, do you honestly think the intent behind the feat was some water, dozens of meters away from where the feat happened, at minimum, secretly enabled the slice to happen? Do you really think a 80s manga, an Araki manga at that, factored in such a minute detail and just decided to not mention it at all, in ANY material ever?
Not that it would matter, you're arguing the cliff was compromised and cracked to shit within basically, unfortunately for that argument, the slice is a nice smooth surface, if what you were saying is true, its cross-section would reveal such damage, whether it be minor fractures, cracks, or what not, it wouldn't be smooth and shiny.
Btw that's just how early Araki draws rocks, you can see the same shit not elsewhere in early JoJo, but even shit like Baoh, unless you mean the cracks fromt the rift, in which case, uh huh, that's because he sliced it apart? You can see around Will and in the bottom two panels the surface of the ground ain't exactly cracked to shit except where the rift extends.
Basically everything, no offense. Objectively wrong things, such as it not being a slash, the rest is actual grasping and mental gymnastics like microwater damage? Unless you have actual straight confirmation it was chain-reaction, don't waste my time, I legitimately don't have the time to argue back and forth about an exceptionally mundane feat because you think it's some sort of natural failure when the mf is basically doing his best Saber impression.
We might as well downgrade mountain punching feats because wind and waves can erode them away and the cracks extending out from someone's fist could be a chain reactionActual awful example, you realize the ONLY reason why that's possible in the above video is due to the fact they spent ample time comprimising the rock's integrity, hence the, ya know, line of stakes, they pummled in, in a line.
That is not the same as Tarkus, who struck one spot, and then from his sword, a goddamn excaliblast or whatever emits, and cleaves the cliff.
...yeah, i didn't see the golden light, the stuff i saw was black and white, on a normal cutting interaction it twistin does matter, because that's literally not how cutting interactions work the energy still won't bend it will cut in a straigh line rather instantly instead of going slowly like what the feat is showing us, but seeing since this it's probably some kind of mystical magic bullshit going on thereIt twisting doesn't matter, if anything, that just tells us it's on him, not some natural chain reaction.
i mean yeah, never denied that it is, i'm just pointing stuff out, the golden light aside,it twisting does matter, that's literally not how normal cutting interactions work, assuming you have enough shear strenght to overcome te shear stress there will be no cracks you will cut the thing in a straight line in the same angle of the sword swing rather than making a crack that propagates trough the material in questionDude, it's manga, do you know what a chain reaction is? Because a golden beam of light coming from the tip of his blade, to blatantly demonstrate, hey, he did a thing, ain't no chain reaction.
not sure why this matters tho?He says, ignoring the big ass light wave that extends from the blade, the fact the destruction is attributed to Tarkus, and the fact the damn feat is a calback to this
never watched jojo bro, i have no idea what the narrative even is, shouldn't that be the base assumption hereActual grasping at straws and even ignoring narrative context
i...i literally said that?Actual awful example, you realize the ONLY realize why that's possible in the above video is due to the fact they spent ample time comprimising the rock's integrity, hence the, ya know, line of stakes, they pummled in, in a line.
now, if it would have been that clean you could probably argue probability and stuff ( since the only reason the cleavage shown in the vid went in a straight line was because the pieces that precipitated the fracture were already aligned beforehand) but the crack very visibly diverges at an angle and changes directions as it keeps going,...idk what to tell you, that can't happen if he actually slashed with enough force to split the rock formation in half, that's just not how it works
Extremely rough, jagged, bedrock mind you, and you think his blade, just so happened to miraclusly do a nice clean cut? Extend tens of meters, beyond poini of impact, ONLY in the direction he swung at that, not even behind him like an actual fracture would surely do if all it was was integrity failure.
yeaah, kind reminder my knowledge on literally what's happening is limted to the feat in question, that's all i knowAlso are you for real right now?
You realize Tarkus sliced the very EDGE of the cliff face, after they moved away from where Bruford died? To a higher elevation, because reminder, they were at the top, meanwhile the lake is a solid 10-15m below the top of the quarry.
no, it was the structural integrity of the material on question was compromised by the water microfractures that happened over the course of a long periode of time that stabbing the rock in question with a good ammount of energy served as a precipitation for a fracture that develops on it's own which caused the rock formation to splitThis is beyond reaching, do you honestly think the intent behind the feat was some water, dozens of meters away from where the feat happened, at minimum, secretly enabled the slice to happen?
...jojo is from the 80s?Do you really think a 80s manga, an Araki manga at that, factored in such a minute detail and just decided to not mention it at all, in ANY material ever?
none taken, i don't really care lolBasically everything, no offense
i mean it was a stab, if it was a slash the sword would have cut trough the material like a hot knife trough butter and not be inbedded in it, or maybe the golden energy did all the work?Objectively wrong things, such as it not being a slash
No it's just the force of his strike, but given you straght up admitted to actually being ignorant on the material......yeah, i didn't see the golden light, the stuff i saw was black and white, on a normal cutting interaction it twistin does matter, because that's literally not how cutting interactions work the energy still won't bend it will cut in a straigh line rather instantly instead of going slowly like what the feat is showing us, but seeing since this it's probably some kind of mystical magic bullshit going on there
And that also isn't how chain reactions work, what the are you on about? The very fact it arched,i mean yeah, never denied that it is, i'm just pointing stuff out, the golden light aside,it twisting does matter, that's literally not how normal cutting interactions work,
Why am I even responding to this, do you not see the rift ripping through the ground?assuming you have enough shear strenght to overcome te shear stress there will be no cracks you will cut the thing in a straight line in the same angle of the sword swing rather than making a crack that propagates trough the material in question
That's just you not using your common sense.not sure why this matters tho?
how he cracked doesn't really matter he still did, the destruction of the cliff will be attributed to him either ways and in both instances it's a superhuman feat beyond what any normal human can accomplish
No, I assume by default you aren't talking out your ignorance and arguing just for the sake of it, after all, if you're arguing something, I assume you actually have an idea what you're talking about. I was wrong, you're arguing out of sheer, blatant, ignorance, why, I do not know, but for future reference, actually know the feat you're talking about before making up excuses why it might not be legit.never watched jojo bro, i have no idea what the narrative even is, shouldn't that be the base assumption here
Yeah, and because of that, it's a false equilavence? What's so hard to comprehend with that. Your example is bad because the situation and circumstances that caused it, are incomparable to the other example.i...i literally said that?
like right there, did you just see the vid and ignore everything else?
Me mentioning bedrock was more to say that shit dont exactly split like that, it isnt, idk, sandstone? Im not sure what rock that is in the clip, but different rocks crack differently..bedrock is still suspecible to water damage, water can still cause microfractures and fissures in the bedrock that undermines it's overall integrity, that's why i made a point with the place is filled with water, i don't see how it being jagged and rough means anything
point taken in the latter bit tho
So you made an argument, an absolute reach of one mind you, without even knowing if what you said was true?then just forget everything i said about water microfractures if the part cut wasn't actually in contact with any water
And yet, they're at the edge of a cliff, like 10-15m above the closest water source, which in and of itself, is at LEAST dozens of meters away, honestly, i'd say like 100m tbh.no, it was the structural integrity of the material on question was compromised by the water microfractures that happened over the course of a long periode of time that stabbing the rock in question with a good ammount of energy served as a precipitation for a fracture that develops on it's own which caused the rock formation to split
Are you telling me you didnt even LOOK at the feat before arguing?that was before i saw the bright golden energy beam, so discard it
WHATi mean it was a stab, if it was a slash the sword would have cut trough the material like a hot knife trough butter and not be inbedded in it, or maybe the golden energy did all the work?
Why do you think I asked on the first page? We don't use shear strength for cutting feats anymore I guess, wiki standards.this is meaningless anyways
oh well, have a nice day
also why aren't you using shear stenght of bedrock, 2 tons of tnt is hillariously low for cutting such a huge surface area
And that also isn't how chain reactions work, what the are you on about? The very fact it arched,except not really, that's just early araki being dog, it's immediately shown to have been more or less straightshoots down your rock example.
That's just you not using your common sense.
yeah that makes it all bullshit lolthe feat is a direct callback to how as a human, he can slice through rock with his sword,
i don't think you understood my point here, i was trying to imply you can have exceedinly clean cuts due a chain reaction caused by crack propagation, and while the example i've provided doesn't apply here due to the circumstances already stated, the feat can be argued to have been caused the same way the rock was sliced open because i tougt the crack was diverging at difderent angles and changeing directions as it kept goingYeah, and because of that, it's a false equilavence? What's so hard to comprehend with that. Your example is bad because the situation and circumstances that caused it, are incomparable to the other example.
Hell your own points are even contradicting each other, straight line fractures, but also complaining it seemed to arc? Can't have both.
i just saw the water and came to that conclusion and said this helps my point i thinkSo you made an argument, an absolute reach of one mind you, without even knowing if what you said was true?
also in this case the fact that the rocks are next to water makes it worse since water does a good job at ******* up a rocks's microstructure, the one they were standing on seemed to be full of cracks so that helps my point me thinks
the main point being was if he slashed the sword it would have slashed the rocks in it's way and the whole cliff with it, for some reason the sword embedded itself in the rocks instead, but just attribute it to anime physics i guess?This isn't a stab, in what WORLD is this a stab, it's a swing, he swings the sword so hard it strikes the ground and splits the earth. There is no debate to be had, you're wrong, objectively, it is a swing, he slashed. There ain't any gaps here if that's what you think, that page leads directly into the next page. He swings and the "stab" is just the end of the swing.
weird ahh policyWe don't use shear strength for cutting feats anymore I guess, wiki standards.
bro is cheerleeding lmaoIn total, you lost the argument tbh.
I don't care about putting this to rest, I just want to say that no one said you suckedsaying "hey bro, you sucked and lost" counts as cheerleeding to me especially when i already said i was wrong, your statement brings nothing of value to the conversation other than who you think won or lost
anyways, let's just let this rest
Unfortunately, not good enough.a chain reacton is a series of events caused by a previous one, him embedding a sword in the rock and it cracking due to several circumstances is by definition a chain reaction
they're hypersonic?also kudos for pointing out the fact that it's straight, that makes your argument strongerand me blind
apologies, i still stand by the fact in normal circumstances this should have been done in an instant and not slowly like the feat is showing (they literally have enough time visibly see the crack expanding), altough trough narrative context this feat is still valid
No? It was just one slice, one rift, it didn't spread out in a bunch of ways.i don't think you understood my point here, i was trying to imply you can have exceedinly clean cuts due a chain reaction caused by crack propagation, and while the example i've provided doesn't apply here due to the circumstances already stated, the feat can be argued to have been caused the same way the rock was sliced open because i tougt the crack was diverging at difderent angles and changeing directions as it kept going
so you understand the confusion
What? Dude, he's just standing straight up (mind you this dude is like, 2x as big as a 195cm tall man), swings his blade down, and his blade hits the ground, gets embedded, and a rift forms from it.the main point being was if he slashed the sword it would have slashed the rocks in it's way and the whole cliff with it, for some reason the sword embedded itself in the rocks instead, but just attribute it to anime physics i guess?
It literally did cut into the rock? It's why the tip of the blade is obscured?it's legitimately as if the slash's momentum literally just halted on the top of the rock instead of actually just cutting the little rocky bits in it's way along with everything else like should, like come on you can't tell you can't see the confusion bit here
figure of speech, that wasn't meant literallyI don't care about putting this to rest, I just want to say that no one said you sucked