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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

That doesn't exactly heal him, that just gives him the potential to, maybe. Though that also begs the question, would that even work, if he's given a new face, would he just regen it back to what it should be? Would he heal quicker than she can swap? What about the lipstick to keep the fate intact? And, can she even control fate in such a way for non-romantic purposes? There's a LOT of caveats to this.
 
With JoJoLands chapter 14 releasing in a few days, we only have 96 more chapters till it matches JoJolions!

I think if this part is going to parallel parts 5 and 6, the Jodio gang could become the most powerful group in Jojo.
 
Chariot190 said:
That doesn't exactly heal him, that just gives him the potential to, maybe. Though that also begs the question, would that even work, if he's given a new face, would he just regen it back to what it should be? Would he heal quicker than she can swap? What about the lipstick to keep the fate intact? And, can she even control fate in such a way for non-romantic purposes? There's a LOT of caveats to this.
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She probably has to study facial structures to know what effect each one has, I don't think it's unlikely that she already knows one for healing since this is one of the most essential and obvious functions for her power.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Jodio gang could become the most powerful group in Jojo.
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The Class G God Jotaro Kujo exists, it is simply impossible for that to happen.
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Wait, how technical can Heaven's Door get with the rules? I know they aren't 100% psychological, because I'm pretty sure one of them was literally "I will fly back 10 feet".
 
Lynieryz said:
But isn't it stated that this same eruption is not capable of killing him, only having enough force to push him into space?
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The actual amount of energy of the eruption is far less than the full energy the Red Stone of Asia used to trigger it, since that energy is being distributed across....you know, the entire area of the volcano. Given how small Kars is compared to it, he would barely be taking a fraction of a percent of the total.
 
I don't know if this is a mistake or whatever, but Kira only has a relativistic rating while Koichi has a relativistic+ rating.
The justification for the rel+ rating on his page is this:
"Relativistic+ with Echoes Act 3 (Far faster than before, could effectively blitz Koichi, though is demonstrably slower than Killer Queen, though he did manage to react to his stomp)"
It literally says "though demonstrably slower than Killer Queen" Shouldn't KQ be atleast scaled to this too?
I don't know if this is meant to be like this, but it just seemed weird....
 
Beardooo said:
I don't know if this is a mistake or whatever, but Kira only has a relativistic rating while Koichi has a relativistic+ rating.
The justification for the rel+ rating on his page is this:
"Relativistic+ with Echoes Act 3 (Far faster than before, could effectively blitz Koichi, though is demonstrably slower than Killer Queen, though he did manage to react to his stomp)"
It literally says "though demonstrably slower than Killer Queen" Shouldn't KQ be atleast scaled to this too?
I don't know if this is meant to be like this, but it just seemed weird....
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Yeah, everyone in Part 4 but Kira, is outdated.
It's less a mistake and more, fixing them one by one given it's not just speed that's the issue. Which is to say, just imagine Koichi is at most rel, instead of rel+, rel+ was just a placeholder for downscaling off RHCP, now there's a value instead.

Baken has me at gunpoint doing Part 3 tho, which is like done I'm just lazy and need to finish like 3 more calcs for niche stuff like Hermit Purple and then they good to go
 
Chariot190 said:
Yeah, everyone in Part 4 but Kira, is outdated.
It's less a mistake and more, fixing them one by one given it's not just speed that's the issue. Which is to say, just imagine Koichi is at most rel, instead of rel+, rel+ was just a placeholder for downscaling off RHCP, now there's a value instead.
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Echoes Act 3 is lightspeed tbh.
 
Emerald said:


Does this really prove MiH is above GER?
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No, he says shit like that all the time. It's just cherry picking Araki's daily yap. You could make any agenda with the shit he says, he contradicts himself all the time.
Like even in stuff after said interview, he literally calls RTZ the strongest ultimate ability ever, such as in Veller where RTZ is noted to the ultimate Stand ability (no other stand or ability is called that in it).

Plus every noncanon thing showing GER dabbing on Pucci has to mean something.

Plus like, he said WOU strongest villain now, half his yap is wrong anyway, bro was just hyping the recently ended part 6.
 
Chariot190 said:
Like even in stuff after said interview, he literally calls RTZ the strongest ultimate ability ever, such as in Veller where RTZ is noted to the ultimate Stand ability (no other stand or ability is called that in it).
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Is there any other place that is not Jojoveller that calls RTZ an ultimate ability as well?
Chariot190 said:
You could make any agenda with the shit he says, he contradicts himself all the time
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Like what?
Chariot190 said:
Plus like, he said WOU strongest villain now, half his yap is wrong anyway, bro was just hyping the recently ended part 6.
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Is there anything contradicting WoU being the strongest villain?
 
Emerald said:
Is there any other place that is not Jojoveller that calls RTZ an ultimate ability as well?
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The immediate preceding guide, anime shit, etc.

Emerald said:
Like what?
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Like Dio being the strongest given he said that too post that interview (Dio literally hadnt done anything in that time).

Araki just kinda talks, and while Araki forgot is a dumb meme that isnt actually the case half the time, it actually does have merit for stuff years apart given he's admitted as such. Not the same as people being unable to read the story abd misunderstand basic plot given he notes all that shit down like any normal mangaka, but between parts he's said he usually forgets what he was thinking or did while writing so he can go back and read it from an outside pov.

Emerald said:
Is there anything contradicting WoU being the strongest villain
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Feats tbh. WoU is less strongest, and more just super high spec for what it does. Like DIO outclasses him in stats by a ludicrous degree, King Crimson outclasses him in just pure random hax potency, Love Train is far more versatile, brutal, and haxy and even uses the same concept of flow, MIH is far more destructive, KQ and BTD speak for themselves, etc.

WoU is just extremely good at what it does, and Araki even going on about "strongest" makes no sense because he loathes that shit. Probably the exact same type of statement as MIH, immediate post Part hype. Given MIH and WOU both have clear drawbacks or pale to other villains in some aspects. More apples and oranges if anything wou is def like god tier tho, i dont think he'd actually lose to any villain even if he cant actually beat each one directly
 
Wanted to get ya opinion on this, saw Blade was pretty decked out but he's h8c and I like Jojo and know Jojo is pretty haxxy, any character he could fight?
 
This Stand is kind of insane. It's an "automatic" type Stand, aka, infinite range. And it can effect multiple at once, so it's probably a Colony Type too.
And the trigger to activate it seems loose as ****. Might be a secret top tier Stand.
 
Chariot190 said:
This Stand is kind of insane. It's an "automatic" type Stand, aka, infinite range. And it can effect multiple at once, so it's probably a Colony Type too.
And the trigger to activate it seems loose as ****. Might be a secret top tier Stand.
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No wonder Jodio said they were all cooked, and this is only the first real enemy
 
Can someone explain to me why Rt0 is 4-D, if nullifying just 10 seconds of the timeline being erased is not like Uni+
 
Arkenis said:
Are there large town level calcs that Star Platinum scales to?
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No 🗿
Emerald said:
Can someone explain to me why Rt0 is 4-D, if nullifying just 10 seconds of the timeline being erased is not like Uni+
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Time dimensionality fuckery and being able to neg 4D abilities.
You don't need to be tier 2 to be 4D.

It simply isn't that straightforward. The only difference between what King Crimson does, and the whole thing, is quantity, deleting even 0.0001 seconds is some 4D bullshit.
Time skip is High 3-A on a 4D scale, literally the same as BTD.
 
Define "only works", Love Train still has a bunch of fucky wacky stuff that happens whether he's in it or not, if you mean the "you cant hit me lol", then yeah, that only works when he's in it, because the very fact he's in it, is why you can't hit him.
 
Chariot190 said:
Define "only works", Love Train still has a bunch of fucky wacky stuff that happens whether he's in it or not, if you mean the "you cant hit me lol", then yeah, that only works when he's in it, because the very fact he's in it, is why you can't hit him.
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and johhny could hit him while he was in that space with his infinite rotation?
 
Kircdaaa said:
and johhny could hit him while he was in that space with his infinite rotation?
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Yes, IR can bypass defenses, and cross over between dimensions. Literally ripped it open and beat his ass.

Tusk's "holes" could enter it too actually, they have dimension fuckery hax (reason why D4C can't BFR them), but any damage they inflicted is instantly moved elsewhere so it didnt matter.
 
Chariot190 said:
Yes, IR can bypass defenses, and cross over between dimensions. Literally ripped it open and beat his ass.

Tusk's "holes" could enter it too actually, they have dimension fuckery hax (reason why D4C can't BFR them), but any damage they inflicted is instantly moved elsewhere so it didnt matter.
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could luffy luffy beat him(d4c/valentine) in an equal speed match?
 
Kircdaaa said:
could luffy luffy beat him(d4c/valentine) in an equal speed match?
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D4C/Valentine, or D4C Love Train?
Former yeah.
Latter no.

And like, noinbetween btw, it's pretty ******* extreme wins on both.
 
Kircdaaa said:
why not
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Stomp/Stomp/Mismatch.

Just not a very fair match no matter how ya do it. Someone is stomping someone depending on the conditions.
Kircdaaa said:
that is so weird why does the stand have two completely different abilities?
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D4C; Love Train, is the evolved form of D4C, as stated by Funny himself.

It's no different than Tusk Act 1 vs Tusk Act 4, Echoes Act 2 Vs Echoes Act 3, GE Vs GER, S&W at the start vs S&W at the end (has Go Beyond, better bubbles, explosions, etc), or hell, some Stands can just evolve normally, like Heaven's Door needing manuscripts and not having a Stand form, but Rohan eventually got so good his Stand gained an actual body and he can use it just by pointing at someone.
 
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