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Mostly likle a couple of hoursbut we don't know how long his regen takes, it could take days to only seconds
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Mostly likle a couple of hoursbut we don't know how long his regen takes, it could take days to only seconds
but we don't know how long his regen takes, it could take days to only seconds thats why its listed as inconsistent
Days is stretching it. That would make the regen non combat applicable.Mostly likle a couple of hours
That arm was broken when encased, the time untill that arm was back into fuction was hiegherCouple of hours is eh. I'd probably say 5-10 minutes is good.
1. I swear, whoever put that "justification" for Johnny's regen doesn't know how regen works.That arm was broken when encased, the time untill that arm was back into fuction was hiegher
I can't see scans thankse to region block1. I swear, whoever put that "justification" for Johnny's regen doesn't know how regen works.
2. In the scan that was shown for Johnny's regen, he and Bling-Bling take even more damage, and then when the damage, they heal their injuries in the next scene. And since he and Bling-Bling were in a competition to win a prize, the time likely wasn't very long because Johnny's sisters and Bling-Bling's assistants started fighting for the prize, so a few minutes is definitely reasonable.
Hum... I would need to see the scan to make a conclusion1. I swear, whoever put that "justification" for Johnny's regen doesn't know how regen works.
2. In the scan that was shown for Johnny's regen, he and Bling-Bling take even more damage, and then when the damage, they heal their injuries in the next scene. And since he and Bling-Bling were in a competition to win a prize, the time likely wasn't very long because Johnny's sisters and Bling-Bling's assistants started fighting for the prize, so a few minutes is definitely reasonable.
I'll do it when I'm done taking a shower.Hum... I would need to see the scan to make a conclusion
yah 5-10 minutes is not reliable enough for Johnny, it can be useful but Specter isn't just gonna let Johnny sit there and Regen, add on top that Specter is fully capable of using the Chronos Coin which slows time down for a few seconds and Specter is gonna be able to Incap him before the regen can activate and if its does, I don't think Specter well let the fight continue for long after seeing it activateCouple of hours is eh. I'd probably say 5-10 minutes is good.
5-10 minutes will be helpful because Johnny's Toon Force and Immense Pain Tolerance will stall Spectre as the regen kicks in. Slowing down time is definitely useful. Highly doubt Spectre's incapping Johnny due to Johnny's crazy dura.yah 5-10 minutes is not reliable enough for Johnny, it can be useful but Specter isn't just gonna let Johnny sit there and Regen, add on top that Specter is fully capable of using the Chronos Coin which slows time down for a few seconds and Specter is gonna be able to Incap him before the regen can activate and if its does, I don't think Specter well let the fight continue for long after seeing it activate
Still waiting for a response on this.I might need an explanation of what equipment that Johnny has that Spectre can counter and why.
I'm leaning towards Spectre, but I'll only vote for him if anyone can do this.
anything projectile base gets absorbed by the Barrier Lantern and most of the other stuff only effects Johnny and could probably be destroyed like the Turbo Action BackpackI might need an explanation of what equipment that Johnny has that Spectre can counter and why.
I'm leaning towards Spectre, but I'll only vote for him if anyone can do this.
what exactly prevents Johnny from being incapped? he has been seen with broken arms and Specter could probably do far worse since he's using a scythe which could easily cut off a limb5-10 minutes will be helpful because Johnny's Toon Force and Immense Pain Tolerance will stall Spectre as the regen kicks in. Slowing down time is definitely useful. Highly doubt Spectre's incapping Johnny due to Johnny's crazy dura.
I might need you to elaborate.anything projectile base gets absorbed by the Barrier Lantern and most of the other stuff only effects Johnny and could probably be destroyed like the Turbo Action Backpack
And you think Johnny's just gonna stand there and take it?what exactly prevents Johnny from being incapped? he has been seen with broken arms and Specter could probably do far worse since he's using a scythe which could easily cut off a limb
Specter can set up a forcefield that absorbs projectiles with the Barrier Lantern so anything that is shot at specter is absorbed and makes the barrier once fired strongerI might need you to elaborate.
Specter isn't going to need Johnny to stand still thanks to the Chronos Coin and the Judgement RushAnd you think Johnny's just gonna stand there and take it?
But how is Spectre going to be able to see Johnny when he's using the Electro Chromatic Blanket?Specter can set up a forcefield that absorbs projectiles with the Barrier Lantern so anything that is shot at specter is absorbed and makes the barrier once fired stronger
stuff like the Turbo Action Backpack and Electro Chromatic Blanket only effect Johnny and could be destroyed by Specter and Specter isn't one to stay on the ground since he can fly and constantly does it in his boss fight so the Electro Chromatic Blanket isn't going to allow Johnny to sneak up on him add on Specter could likely find him with the Judgment Rush which homes in on the closet target
I never said he'd be able to see him, i'm saying that Specter won't just stand there once he sees someone go invisible in front of him, he'll likely stay off the ground as to prevent something bad from happening to him and has reliable ways around it such asBut how is Spectre going to be able to see Johnny when he's using the Electro Chromatic Blanket?
the difference between the two is only 2.53x as stated, yes Johnny has Dura Hax but Specter is 100% willing to use Chronos Coin into Judgment Rush, he'll rush forward well time it slowed and slice Johnny in two since thats what the rush doesI really don't see how Spectre's killing Johnny physically, and most of Johnny's hax with equipment won't be useful.
1. It would be a dumb idea for Johnny to go invisible right in front of someone. He would quickly find a hiding place, then use it. And he's perfectly capable of doing that thanks to his Stealth Mastery.I never said he'd be able to see him, i'm saying that Specter won't just stand there once he sees someone go invisible in front of him, he'll likely stay off the ground as to prevent something bad from happening to him and has reliable ways around it such as
Summoning Skeletal Sentries and Skeletons to fight for him during this and the Skeletal Sentries can be self-detonated for an explosion.
Caltrops can be used to set up traps on the floor so Johnny is gonna have to be very carful where he steps
Judgment Rush as stated homes in on the target and could likely find Johnny even if he's invisible
the difference between the two is only 2.53x as stated, yes Johnny has Dura Hax but Specter is 100% willing to use Chronos Coin into Judgment Rush, he'll rush forward well time it slowed and slice Johnny in two since thats what the rush does
vote counted either way
Johnny is gonna have a hard time finding a place to hide since the fight is in the lich yard, giving Specter a home field advantage and knowing the place far better then Johnny1. It would be a dumb idea for Johnny to go invisible right in front of someone. He would quickly find a hiding place, then use it. And he's perfectly capable of doing that thanks to his Stealth Mastery.
actually Specter uses summoning fairly often, he did it against Shovel Knight in his boss fight just so they were there and since the Skeletal Sentry is an item Specter can easily toss one out, Replenish Ray in the Lich Yard wouldn't do much and likely summon more Skeletons and ghouls who listen to Specter and Static Animator shouldn't be much trouble since the Barrier Lantern once fired, Spider Scythe, and Bounding Soul all hit multiple things at once2. Summoning other people to fight for him won't do much against someone who has Stealth Mastery, and is currently invisible. Plus, Johnny can do the same with the Static Animator and Replenish Ray.
Specter doesn't make them, its just an Item that he has and can throw out whenever he wants3. Traps are useful, but how long does it take for the traps to be set up? I'm pretty sure Johnny can see if someone is making a trap.
makes sense to me4. With homing attacks, you actually need a visible target to aim at. It wouldn't make sense for a homing attack to home in on something it can't see.
Specter is using a scythe something that could very likely pierce through johnnys skin and again Pain Tolerance doesn't make you immune to damage and neither does Toon Force those things just make you more resilient when it happens and since Johnny's regen takes several minutes to activate possibly far more, I don't see nothing stopping Specter from slowing time and cutting his legs off and making him incapable of fighting5. 2.53x is a pretty decent gap. Add on Toon Force and Pain Tolerance and you got a tough opponent to kill.
Wouldn't this be kinda self BFR?You have some good points, but it's Incon FRA for me.
If Johnny realizes he can't win, he'll just use the Saturday Repeater Machine and forget the battle ever happened.
The Repeater Machine has Universal Range, as it made everyone in his universe go back to the previous Saturday. So if Johnny were to use it, he and Spectre would go back, making this an Incon.Wouldn't this be kinda self BFR?
Oh, ok, so double BFR, fairThe Repeater Machine has Universal Range, as it made everyone in his universe go back to the previous Saturday. So if Johnny were to use it, he and Spectre would go back, making this an Incon.