Is beingh created at the moment of the Big Bang means you are as powerfull as It?

[JustANormalLemon]

I'm currently helping the creation of Dragon city verse, but them I came to this feat

Time is relative, specially for this ancient dragon. He was born with the big bang at the oldest part of the universe. Since then he has been travelling between galaxies creating new planets.

I'm not sure if he can be scaled to the big bang or not, so basically what the tittle asks

 

[ShionAH]

I think a possibly rating make sense.

 

[Dragonite007]

I'm currently helping the creation of Dragon city verse, but them I came to this feat

Well in the description said that he was born with the Big Bang, and not "because of the Big Bang".

My understanding of the phrase is that it was born at the exact moment when the Big Bang occurred, so for me it scales to the explosion

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I think a possibly rating make sense.

Thanks, I will wait for more awnsers

Well in the description said that he was born with the Big Bang, and not "because of the Big Bang".

My understanding of the phrase is that it was born at the exact moment when the Big Bang occurred, so for me it scales to the explosion

This seens more of a double interpretation thanks to choice of wording, seen more them clear that they meant that the dragon was created thanks to the big bang

 

[Dragonite007]

This seens more of a double interpretation thanks to choice of wording, seen more them clear that they meant that the dragon was created thanks to the big bang

The description don't said that was created because of the Big Bang, say that he born with the Big Bang.


Its more like that the phrase has more than one interpretion

 

[Dragonite007]

Bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The description don't said that was created because of the Big Bang, say that he born with the Big Bang.


Its more like that the phrase has more than one interpretion

That... is literaly what I said, I just them finished with "is a lot more likely that they meant the big bang created It"

 

[Dragonite007]

That... is literaly what I said, I just them finished with "is a lot more likely that they meant the big bang created It"

And I said, that is no "more likely", both are assumptions

 

[Dragonite007]

That... is literaly what I said, I just them finished with "is a lot more likely that they meant the big bang created It"

What about we make them: [Insert another epic dragon feat], likely universe level.
And call it a day?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

What about we make them: [Insert another epic dragon feat], likely universe level.
And call it a day?

Works for me

 

[Therefir]

Why would he get any AP rating from this? At most it's a durability feat for being born with the Big Bang and surviving.

 

[Dragonite007]

Why would he get any AP rating from this? At most it's a durability feat for being born with the Big Bang and surviving.

Because the Epics Dragons can harm each other

 

[Hypertornado099]

No, this is just a longevity feat. All matter was "born" with the big bang, it does not mean everything scales to the big bang in any capacity

 

[ImmortalDread]

Looking from the first sentence, it most likely refer to age of the dragon. I don't see how it scales to any properties of big bang.

 

[Dragonite007]

No, this is just a longevity feat. All matter was "born" with the big bang, it does not mean everything scales to the big bang in any capacity

Looking from the first sentence, it most likely refer to age of the dragon. I don't see how it scales to any properties of big bang.

What you are talking about?
Even If he is born because of the Big Bang, he still has to deal to the side effects (Energy, heat, radiation)

Exemple: Just because I born, because a T-sar Bomb, that doesn't mean I won't have to deal with the effects of the bomb (Energy, heat, radiation)

 

[ImmortalDread]

Why does this precondition manifest within a fictional milieu? The narrative inherently encompasses supernatural elements, and no contextual evidence substantiates the necessity for this particular precondition to be established.

 

[Dragonite007]

Why does this precondition manifest within a fictional milieu? The narrative inherently encompasses supernatural elements, and no contextual evidence substantiates the necessity for this particular precondition to be established.

Maybe because we are to scale him to a natural element (Big Bang)

 

[ImmortalDread]

The provided explanation lacks persuasiveness. Given the specific context, I can only infer a single interpretation: the concept of time (age) and the occurrence of his birth. There is insufficient evidence to suggest that he possesses the ability to endure the immense energy of the big bang explosion, particularly within the parameters of the information provided.

 

[Dragonite007]

The provided explanation lacks persuasiveness. Given the specific context, I can only infer a single interpretation: the concept of time (age) and the occurrence of his birth. There is insufficient evidence to suggest that he possesses the ability to endure the immense energy of the big bang explosion, particularly within the parameters of the information provided.

ImmortalDread, the Dragon born in the oldest part of the universe with the Big Bang. And the oldest part of the universe, was where the primitive atom was, or the place where's the Big Bang occurred

 

[ImmortalDread]

Call me dread, it is shorter and easier.

I still don't think the context given indicates this. Apologies.

 

[Dragonite007]

Call me dread, it is shorter and easier.

I still don't think the context given indicates this. Apologies.

Ok, even for myself I think the feat is a little vague and ambigous

 

[ImmortalDread]

I never claimed it to be a feat; it's just a basic way for me to determine someone's age. Moreover, this is not a CRT

 

[Metalballrun]

Without further context, I don't think "Character X was born with the Big Bang" really means anything definitive. Not only can it go either way, as in they can scale or not, but their scaling can also vary.

This kind of statements is something you'd use as a secondary evidence or a supporting feat to help a primary evidence that sets something definite.

 

[Hypertornado099]

What you are talking about?
Even If he is born because of the Big Bang, he still has to deal to the side effects (Energy, heat, radiation)

Exemple: Just because I born, because a T-sar Bomb, that doesn't mean I won't have to deal with the effects of the bomb (Energy, heat, radiation)

Yes, and its possible anything can deal with the side effects of the Big Bang. Its unknown if you actually need durability to survive it. This is like giving planets universal durability because all the atoms and matter that make it up were born with the big bang

 

[Arkenis]

Don’t think it’s anything. Other stuff was also “born” with the big bang doesn’t mean it scales to the explosion. This assumption for scaling them to the big bang would be that it was born right when the big bang started, tanked that explosion up close, and also survived all the radiation during said explosion.

 

[Dragonite007]

Yes, and its possible anything can deal with the side effects of the Big Bang. Its unknown if you actually need durability to survive it. This is like giving planets universal durability because all the atoms and matter that make it up were born with the big bang

We give durability by surviving it

 

[Dragonite007]

Don’t think it’s anything. Other stuff was also “born” with the big bang doesn’t mean it scales to the explosion. This assumption for scaling them to the big bang would be that it was born right when the big bang started, tanked that explosion up close, and also survived all the radiation during said explosion.

The description said that he born in the oldest part of the universe with the Big Bang, and the oldest part were where the Big Bang occurred

 

[Hypertornado099]

We give durability by surviving it

Ok, so do we give everything in the universe universal durability?

 

[Dragonite007]

Ok, so do we give everything in the universe universal durability?

Do you know that even though the Big Bang created everything, everything didn't appear at the same time?
So much so that the oldest celestial object currently dates to 600 million years after the Big Bang.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Do you know that even though the Big Bang created everything, everything didn't appear at the same time?
So much so that the oldest celestial object currently dates to 600 million years after the Big Bang.

Got a source for that?

 

[Arkenis]

The description said that he born in the oldest part of the universe with the Big Bang, and the oldest part were where the Big Bang occurred

Doesn't mean he tanked the explosion.

 

[Dragonite007]

Got a source for that?

GRB 090423 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Dragonite007]

Doesn't mean he tanked the explosion.

Means that he survive the heat, radiation, energy, etc; since take a time until the energy from the Big Bang disperse enough

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Doesn't mean he tanked the explosion.

what is this argument lol appearing at the same time as the big bang must mean you survived it

 

[Arkenis]

Means that he survive the heat, radiation, energy, etc; since take a time until the energy from the Big Bang disperse enough

what is this argument lol appearing at the same time as the big bang must mean you survived it

Surviving does not mean tanking. Surviving heat, radiation, energy does not mean tanking. How are ya using the word survive and then equating it to durability?

 

[Dragonite007]

Surviving does not mean tanking. Surviving heat, radiation, energy does not mean tanking. How are ya using the word survive and then equating it to durability?

Well, without a type of immortality you need dura to withstand

 

[Arkenis]

Well, without a type of immortality you need dura to withstand

Sadly I don’t know the verse. Do we know the dragon has no immortality or regen?

 

[Dragonite007]

Sadly I don’t know the verse. Do we know the dragon has no immortality or regen?

Just immortality type 1, just a few dragons has immortality type 3 (Mid-High up to High)

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I only Agreed with "likely" sinse I trough no one would come here, now that a better argument was putted, yes, I'm gainst scaling to the big bang... also this isn1t a content revision thread

Ok, even for myself I think the feat is a little vague and ambigous


So, I will start count the votes:

Agree with scaling for the Big Bang: 3 (@ShionAH, @Dragonite007, @JustANormalLemon)
Agree with scaling for the Big Bang, but just durability: 1 (@Therefir)

Disagree: 2 (@ImmortalDread, @Hypertornado099)

Final count: 4-2

Means that he survive the heat, radiation, energy, etc; since take a time until the energy from the Big Bang disperse enough

and this... is just resistence to radiation, heat and enrgy, not directly dura

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Big Bang isn't even really an explosion