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Exactly. This will be my last post for two days though. I have already slacked enough from my studies. I'll see y'all on Tuesday afternoon
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Infinity war part 1 thread (pre-emptive) f'ton of spoilers.
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I remember someone saying prior they ( those that scale to Awakened Thor ) could scale to High 6-A ? Is that still applicable ?
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http://www.convertanyunit.com/energy/Davidsteel1 said:
Matt's current number for Thor would land him in Large Country+ (~550 teratons)
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If he scaled to that he could easily be put at 6-A. He tanked that for 2 minutes with only some burns, and twice that number would already be 6-A.
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@Graf thank you very much.
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So what would thor get for the moving one of those rings/having enough resistance to do so.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Also, fenris has been dezombiefied from the theatrical version, which is ironic. Because I'm watching the theatrical version on home media and it's different.
So the eternal flame grants Hela true Resurrection. Unlike the rest of her army which are undead.
So the eternal flame grants Hela true Resurrection. Unlike the rest of her army which are undead.
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You can't do a staff only thread when most of the staff haven't seen the film. And only 10 people whom are engaging in those two threads, have seen it.Assaltwaffle said:
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Interesting, the devil's anus is mentioned to be a collapsing neutron star, which other end arrives at Asgard. Original forge for asgardian weaponry?! Which could imply odin killing a solar system. And considering Hela's charactersing him as shameful of his rise to current status. Or where the hammer mjolnir was actually forged. Odin lying to Thor, quite likely.
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If anyone wants a comparison between Thor and the place the neutron star's energy flew through (It's the smaller ring).
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Assuming it's the same as stormbreaker and IG. Country level? The rings are of course far greater than the theatrical star, and Thor moves one about 35 degrees from it resting position. Regigias ha class T lifting strength, whilst hela now has class Y. Given the ring size class P? (which includes asteroids)Agnaa said:
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Thor tanks about 35% of the iris or so. I'm going to see infinity war again, because its such a good film. So I'll take more detailed notes. No picture's.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Well... 6-A is better than anything. Then I would have Scarlet Witch vs Jean... This time it being a fairer match.
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Assuming it's the same MATERIAL as stormbreaker and IG?7th Ki'oon said:
You'd still need to find out the density of the material making up the rings or the weight of the rings themselves I believe, and I don't think "This weapon is country level so you need to be country level to lift the weapon" is a claim you can make unless you have a direct statement or feat of that.
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The sphere and rings have to be damn sturdy to not melt instantly.
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Mjolnir inside a neutron star would have High 5-A durability. The pressure is Class Y too. It was also said Thor was hit with the full force of the star.
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Yes but "they need to be sturdy" doesn't tell us their weight or durability. I'm more comfortable leaving something like that uncalc'd, or at most, using it to support other feats not being outliers.
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At this point, Mjolnir being made "Inside" of a Dying Star has been retconned.
- Ragnarok: Thor states Mjolnier was made from the special Metal from inside of a dying star
- Infinity War: Shows us exactly how the forge works.
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Probably equivocal heat. Though. So it shouldn't change much, well noting to downgrade the tier at least. The key emphasis has always been the nature of the fantastical level of heat, required for mjolnir. The forge projects the same heat.TheFinalOrder said:
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Mjolnir being made FROM a dying star would be too OP. This would mean Thor would have to place it down lightly AF to not make the world collapse in on itself, IMO.
Anyways, here's my scaling.
Thanos: Tier 3-A. He has been shown to have matter transmutation, able of turning one of Star-Lord's guns into bubbles (did Spongebob get him drunk, or something?), and can also create a while illusion of a place. Like what he did with Knowhere. He is also capable of stomping the Hulk, who is at least 6-A, and that was casually, without using the gauntlet. He could also grab and throw fragments of a moon quite easily, and although they are fragments, they are still a moon nonetheless. He can also erase half the life from the universe very easily, and could destroy the other half easily, as well. This basically puts him at Universal Level.
Thor: Tier 4-C. Thor has been shown to be able to put up a good fight against the entire Black Order and Thanos, though he was beaten up and battered in the end. Thor then was shown to be able to breathe in space, and could resist mind control. He stated that the weapons would make regular people's minds crumble and descend into insanity, which could explain why Vision was able to lift Mjolnir, as he was powered by the Mind Stone, combined with Bruce's, Tony's, and Ultron's minds, as stated in the movie. He was then shown tanking the heat of that dying star, and what do we call a dying star, kiddos? A supernova, right? So that means that Thor was able to tank the heat of a supernova at BASE. Meaning, without any special regen weapons. Now let's move on to Stormbreaker. Some people say that we should scale it to the Infinity Gauntlet, since it withstood the whole blast. But I believe that we shouldn't, since Thanos was inexperienced and was still learning how to use the gems. So, we should scale it to just one letter beneath the Infinity Gauntlet. This means it's 3-B. So Thor should be 4-C at base, and then about 3-B with Stormbreaker.
Dr. Strange: Tier 6-A. Dr. Strange was shown to be able to survive about ten or so seconds in outer space, something crazy in itself. Bat that's besides the point. Dr. Strange was shown to be able to handle Ebony Maw, the strongest of the Black Order, in battle. Ebony Maw was able to restrain a GOD like a troll doll, quite easily. Ebony Maw was also able to take on Bleeding Edge Iron Man, without much effort. And showing that the Bleeding Edge armor is leagues above the Hulkbuster, and that Dr. Strange was able to shut down a miniature Black Hole, he should be at least scaled to 6-A. Now, let's go onto his dimensions feat. He was able to see each and every reality by transcending them, which means he should also be able to travel to those realities. So he is 6-A at base, while being at at least 3-C with the Eye.
The Black Order: The Black Order are generally all nerfed in the MCU, and since Corvus and Proxima have only fought street heroes, there has been one feat that puts them above that level. Both their weapons were able to mess around with Vision's phasing, as well as cut through Vibranium. This means they are 8-A at base, while being at 6-A with their weapons. I've already scaled Ebony Maw to the Bleeding Edge, which is about 5-A, putting Maw at 5-A as well. Cull Obsidian was able to tear if the arms of the Hulkbuster, as well as put up a great fight against it. Cull should be at the level of base, not really angry Hulk. This puts him at 7-A.
Iron Man: 5-A. Iron Man has been shown to be able to tank multiple moon fragments without any real damage, and also multiple hits from a pissed off Thanos. He was also able to take down Cull Obsidian, and hold his own against Ebony Maw. He was also able to cut Thanos, making him bleed just a bit. The type of bleeding you get when your cousin goes berserk and decides to scratch you. We don't really have a lot of feats for him, so I'm putting him at 5-A.
Scarlet Witch: 3-B: She was able to hold her own against Proxima and Corvus all by herself. And here's the best feat: She was able to literally destroy an Infinity Stones. They survived the creation of the universe, billions of years of withering, and also hundreds of people touching, kissing, or hugging them. These are basically invincible teddy bears every body tries to hug and wear down, but refuse to. Then one five year old comes along and rips it apart, and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS! WTFH did I just say?! Anyways, that's about it for Scarlet Witch.
Vision: Non-existent. He was thrashed by basically everybody.
Spider-Man: 5-A as well.
Rocket Raccoon: Same.
Groot: Same.
Cap: Same.
Black Widow: Same.
Falcon: Same.
Star-Lord: Same.
Gamora: Same.
Eitri: Not enough feats.
Captain Marvel: WTF.
Nick Fury: Same.
Maria Hill: Same.
Anyways, here's my scaling.
Thanos: Tier 3-A. He has been shown to have matter transmutation, able of turning one of Star-Lord's guns into bubbles (did Spongebob get him drunk, or something?), and can also create a while illusion of a place. Like what he did with Knowhere. He is also capable of stomping the Hulk, who is at least 6-A, and that was casually, without using the gauntlet. He could also grab and throw fragments of a moon quite easily, and although they are fragments, they are still a moon nonetheless. He can also erase half the life from the universe very easily, and could destroy the other half easily, as well. This basically puts him at Universal Level.
Thor: Tier 4-C. Thor has been shown to be able to put up a good fight against the entire Black Order and Thanos, though he was beaten up and battered in the end. Thor then was shown to be able to breathe in space, and could resist mind control. He stated that the weapons would make regular people's minds crumble and descend into insanity, which could explain why Vision was able to lift Mjolnir, as he was powered by the Mind Stone, combined with Bruce's, Tony's, and Ultron's minds, as stated in the movie. He was then shown tanking the heat of that dying star, and what do we call a dying star, kiddos? A supernova, right? So that means that Thor was able to tank the heat of a supernova at BASE. Meaning, without any special regen weapons. Now let's move on to Stormbreaker. Some people say that we should scale it to the Infinity Gauntlet, since it withstood the whole blast. But I believe that we shouldn't, since Thanos was inexperienced and was still learning how to use the gems. So, we should scale it to just one letter beneath the Infinity Gauntlet. This means it's 3-B. So Thor should be 4-C at base, and then about 3-B with Stormbreaker.
Dr. Strange: Tier 6-A. Dr. Strange was shown to be able to survive about ten or so seconds in outer space, something crazy in itself. Bat that's besides the point. Dr. Strange was shown to be able to handle Ebony Maw, the strongest of the Black Order, in battle. Ebony Maw was able to restrain a GOD like a troll doll, quite easily. Ebony Maw was also able to take on Bleeding Edge Iron Man, without much effort. And showing that the Bleeding Edge armor is leagues above the Hulkbuster, and that Dr. Strange was able to shut down a miniature Black Hole, he should be at least scaled to 6-A. Now, let's go onto his dimensions feat. He was able to see each and every reality by transcending them, which means he should also be able to travel to those realities. So he is 6-A at base, while being at at least 3-C with the Eye.
The Black Order: The Black Order are generally all nerfed in the MCU, and since Corvus and Proxima have only fought street heroes, there has been one feat that puts them above that level. Both their weapons were able to mess around with Vision's phasing, as well as cut through Vibranium. This means they are 8-A at base, while being at 6-A with their weapons. I've already scaled Ebony Maw to the Bleeding Edge, which is about 5-A, putting Maw at 5-A as well. Cull Obsidian was able to tear if the arms of the Hulkbuster, as well as put up a great fight against it. Cull should be at the level of base, not really angry Hulk. This puts him at 7-A.
Iron Man: 5-A. Iron Man has been shown to be able to tank multiple moon fragments without any real damage, and also multiple hits from a pissed off Thanos. He was also able to take down Cull Obsidian, and hold his own against Ebony Maw. He was also able to cut Thanos, making him bleed just a bit. The type of bleeding you get when your cousin goes berserk and decides to scratch you. We don't really have a lot of feats for him, so I'm putting him at 5-A.
Scarlet Witch: 3-B: She was able to hold her own against Proxima and Corvus all by herself. And here's the best feat: She was able to literally destroy an Infinity Stones. They survived the creation of the universe, billions of years of withering, and also hundreds of people touching, kissing, or hugging them. These are basically invincible teddy bears every body tries to hug and wear down, but refuse to. Then one five year old comes along and rips it apart, and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS! WTFH did I just say?! Anyways, that's about it for Scarlet Witch.
Vision: Non-existent. He was thrashed by basically everybody.
Spider-Man: 5-A as well.
Rocket Raccoon: Same.
Groot: Same.
Cap: Same.
Black Widow: Same.
Falcon: Same.
Star-Lord: Same.
Gamora: Same.
Eitri: Not enough feats.
Captain Marvel: WTF.
Nick Fury: Same.
Maria Hill: Same.
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5-A Spider-Man and Cap wtf.
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Therefore the metal inside the dying star would have to resist the neutron star's heat.TheFinalOrder said:
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I noticed.
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Should we close this and the other unofficial Infinity War thread?
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I give my blessing, for this one
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