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in short bursts because of the aforementioned methods of either healing up via outside help and abusing zenkais, or breaking his limits with new transformations
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Infinite potential: Saitama vs Goku
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Saitama jsut
well
fights normally
and gets millions of times stronger out of his ass
it's ridiculous
again, it's like DBS Broly. Broly got stronger just from exchanging a couple punches
well
fights normally
and gets millions of times stronger out of his ass
it's ridiculous
again, it's like DBS Broly. Broly got stronger just from exchanging a couple punches
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Wait doesn't Goku actually have regen in anime? he did healed his heart which was punctured by beerus in bog anime
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Transformation/Rage Power, not Goku's actual growth in strength
Wasn't Vegeta at the time chamber before this?
Edit: Yes, he was. He needed 2 months to reach that level, and yet he fodderized Cell because of the second grade SSJ thing
The problem is that Goku is Goku. He wants to enjoy a battle, not to instantly kill his opponent. He won't transform into ssgss to instantly one-shot, but, most likely, start increasing his power as Saitama does
Bloodlusted match, not in character
Read the title. Stats are equalized, but natural growth of the chapter is allowed (it is, in fact, the actual point of this thread lol). So Goku becomes a new Garou
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Should've just made Saitama vs Broly
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But yeah Round 1 Goku has a chance since he can try to overpower Saitama by the time he gets around ssj3 level since he does not want another getting brolied moment.
But on Round 2 I am not really sure what can Goku do about Saitama just overpowering him in matter of seconds.
What a time to be alive lmao.
But on Round 2 I am not really sure what can Goku do about Saitama just overpowering him in matter of seconds.
What a time to be alive lmao.
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Transformations. But besides that it's still be in comparison.
Saitama can become strong enough to humiliate and stomp someone who was equal to him not even milliseconds prior. Goku has never shown anything near that in terms of RPL. Stop the cope.
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That's ignorant as hell. You think half monster garou can grow massively stronger than 5000x than before in a few minutes?
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Let's talk about what can Goku do in Round 2 actually, as in what way for Goku to not get brolied.
Else it's a stomp.
Else it's a stomp.
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Yes. He literally has.
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In regards to what that person said, what's the source for that? I don't recall base Goku tanking previously SSJBKK one-shotting level attacks.
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SSG crying right now
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Tbf the SSJG regen is kinda pathetic. He just regenerated a somewhat large (relative to what normal humans can survive) stab wound with extreme difficulty and then never showed regen after that.
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Funny how dragon ball show one crazy feat and just forget about it later on
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I'm not quite sure.
I would love to see the source of half monster garou bridging 5000x gaps without using calculations.
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Garou
Garou (ガロウ, Garō) is a former disciple of Bang and was considered a prodigy. But one day, he was kicked out from his dojo for going on a rampage once he got bored with everyone. He's one of the strongest characters in the series and plays a major role as the main villain in the Hero Hunt arc...
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We did have scans for his RPL as well.
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Yes that is with calculations. If we use that logic then Goku's rpl can boost him by 10^40x in the span of a short fight.I mean it is on his profile from 7B to 6A.Garou
Garou (ガロウ, Garō) is a former disciple of Bang and was considered a prodigy. But one day, he was kicked out from his dojo for going on a rampage once he got bored with everyone. He's one of the strongest characters in the series and plays a major role as the main villain in the Hero Hunt arc...
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I don’t think we can compare two ppl’s RPL like that though as we know that is technically a zenkai and stuff has multipliers and stuff.
Also without calculations, we have two separate instances of Garou’s RPL in combat so there is that.
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Not true.
“
Notes
Note 1:Due to the fact that the distance between any given number of universes embedded in higher-dimensional / higher-order spaces is currently unknowable, it is impossible to quantify the numerical gap between each one of the subtiers in Tier 2. As such, it is not allowed to upgrade such a character based solely on multipliers. For example, someone twice as strong as a Low 2-C character would still be Low 2-C, and someone infinitely more powerful than a 2-C would not be 2-A.”
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Yes, true.
Anything 3-D is infinitely weaker than anything 4-D. That's just how it is.
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I am quantifying Goku's rpl the same way you are doing to garou. Using the logic "he scaled to this calculation value then used rpl to reach this calculation value therefore he's X times stronger".
I am aware. I am contesting the claim that it's allow garou to close gaps massively above 5000x.
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Tbf, space and time is interconnected to one another.
Tiering System FAQ
A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...
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Also, we did got this tbf.
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Why would you attempt to quantify Goku’s PRL as the same way as Garou? Also @Phoenks was the one who mentioned it, not me.
In my opinion, using this logic wasn’t even implied at all.
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Also that doesn’t works as you technically making a claim as this works both ways.
Attempting to calculating RPL is risky to do and I rather prefer to do by in verse statements and feats than do by calculations.
Attempting to calculating RPL is risky to do and I rather prefer to do by in verse statements and feats than do by calculations.
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Lmfao at that, but in all seriousness, this is also on a stat equalized match too.
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To show you that it's wrong. It's wrong the same way you can't use calculations to derive multipliers using the same method. And I'm showing you that even using this bad logic to wank garou's rpl to thousands of times a minute doesn't work because Goku's is ridiculously higher using the same logic.
I asked for evidence for phenonsx's claim and you responded using this logic. What are you on about "using this logic wasn't implied"?
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Since when can’t Saiyans evolve mid fight?
1. Vegeta prior to the adaptation was literally treated like a side character vs Jiren. This Vegeta was 20 times weaker than SSBKK20 Goku pre UIS1. A few punches in the guts is all it takes for Vegeta to match Jiren in speed and even surprise Jiren with his power before Jiren power up even further.
2. Goku Black’s RPL is literally Goku’s. There is nothing special about that mtherfucker other than the fact that it’s Goku’s body with Zamasu’s soul. And Goku Black can skip a few Super Saiyan transformations with a few kicks here and there.
3. Literally the whole Goku vs Beerus fight shows Goku received several Zenkai in mere minutes, to the point that even his base form gradually adapted to SSG’s power, his base form literally went from 4B to 3A in one arc
4. Fusion Zamasu was kicking SSB Goku, Vegeta and SSR Trunks asses. Moments later, Goku with two broken arms was kicking the living shit out of him.
5. Base Fatigue Goku had enough energy to make a barrier that withstand Jiren’s attacks. Those same attacks can break A17 and Golden Frieza’s barrier. A17 has limitless energy, he doesn’t get weaker, A17’s barrier can tank attacks from the like of GoD Toppo, who is comparable to SSBE Vegeta. Besides, A17’s performance was comparable to SSBE Vegeta and SSBKK20 Goku vs Jiren.
1. Vegeta prior to the adaptation was literally treated like a side character vs Jiren. This Vegeta was 20 times weaker than SSBKK20 Goku pre UIS1. A few punches in the guts is all it takes for Vegeta to match Jiren in speed and even surprise Jiren with his power before Jiren power up even further.
2. Goku Black’s RPL is literally Goku’s. There is nothing special about that mtherfucker other than the fact that it’s Goku’s body with Zamasu’s soul. And Goku Black can skip a few Super Saiyan transformations with a few kicks here and there.
3. Literally the whole Goku vs Beerus fight shows Goku received several Zenkai in mere minutes, to the point that even his base form gradually adapted to SSG’s power, his base form literally went from 4B to 3A in one arc
4. Fusion Zamasu was kicking SSB Goku, Vegeta and SSR Trunks asses. Moments later, Goku with two broken arms was kicking the living shit out of him.
5. Base Fatigue Goku had enough energy to make a barrier that withstand Jiren’s attacks. Those same attacks can break A17 and Golden Frieza’s barrier. A17 has limitless energy, he doesn’t get weaker, A17’s barrier can tank attacks from the like of GoD Toppo, who is comparable to SSBE Vegeta. Besides, A17’s performance was comparable to SSBE Vegeta and SSBKK20 Goku vs Jiren.
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I mean it is on his profile from 7B to 6A.Garou
Garou (ガロウ, Garō) is a former disciple of Bang and was considered a prodigy. But one day, he was kicked out from his dojo for going on a rampage once he got bored with everyone. He's one of the strongest characters in the series and plays a major role as the main villain in the Hero Hunt arc...
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I only mentioned that Garou did get stronger as shown throughout his keys
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Then got hit in return to the point they have to do a fusion in the attempt to defeat Zamasu in that state tbf.
He also have a transformation along with that though.
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When did Garou grow thousands of times stronger in mere minutes?
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When he made a tier jump from Tier 7 to 6 in the span of a fight, though it’s being contested if calcs are applicable to RPL ig.
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They aren't applicable. Else Goku solos.
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Post in thread 'STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/strongest-one-punch-man-discussion-thread.107591/post-4928902
Basically, apparently Saitama did have passive growth even before the RPL feat in Chapter 168 to the point he one shot his yesterday’s self as it is from a audiobook too.
Post in thread 'STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/strongest-one-punch-man-discussion-thread.107591/post-4928907
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If we are gauging RPL via using tiers, then Goku stomps. His base from went from like baseline 4B or so to 54 times baseline 3A.( 8*10^47 difference to be exact.)
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No, I am just gauging RPL based on feats and statements.
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Also this fight was in Funs and Games for a reason as all stats are equalized.
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