DivineAura44
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Go back to saying his AD is an outlier, it was more fun that way. Now it's just bad arguments (no disrespect).
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Infinite potential: Saitama vs Goku
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The value and timeframes for those amps are still completely headcanon lmao.
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“Garou’s is shit to goku” it’s literal completely instantaneously matching the opponent on both physicals and technique, on top of his own exponential AD
Yknow what I give up, I’ll let you guys actually rewatch super or read the new one punch man chapters or something you have no idea wtf you’re saying here and it’s unnecessary for me to deal with this fun and games thread any longer
DivineAura44
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Which is shit to Goku.“Garou’s is shit to goku” it’s literal completely instantaneously matching the opponent on both physicals and technique, on top of his own exponential AD
But it was just getting fun. No fair.
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No, hahaha
DivineAura44
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Nice debunk, that totally contributed to any argument made so far.
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Yeah ik
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AKM_sama/Dragon_Ball_Super:_Battle_of_Gods
goku's base goes from low end 4-B to 2x stronger than his SSG which is 110x 3-A.
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I’d like to point out, that’s only because he absorbed ssg into his base
not exactly AD since that never happens again
DivineAura44
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And tell me what exactly is the reasoning for him absorbing this power in his base?
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bc he was too weak
DivineAura44
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bc he was too weak
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Don't know what you're asking here. But that's it, Goku became that strong because he absorbed God power in base, not because Accelerated Development.
This is something he can't do again in mid-combat.
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i mean yeah, gokus lifting strength is like below average human level so yes, ur correct. arguably the weakest grappler in vsb history with his other stats proportions.
DivineAura44
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The entire reason was Goku's body adapting to the power iirc. Aka accelerated development.
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well i would like to inform u that the iirc was indeed not recalled correctly.
DivineAura44
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Fair, I'll review the scene.
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lol, im just screwing with u. but no, it is indeed not a correct analysis on gokus "AD".
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I mean, if the Saiyan God power is 3-A, and Goku's getting used to it, then he's not growing in power.
Take Goku as if he was Ginyu in Goku's Body: his full power was 3-A, yet he could only extract a fraction of such power. The more he gets used to such power, the more fractions of the power he can extract. Once he's completely used to the power/can use it completely (when he absorbed God in base), is when he's in fact growing stronger
That's why he says many times in the middle of the fight that "The Super Saiyan God has more power to offer"
Take Goku as if he was Ginyu in Goku's Body: his full power was 3-A, yet he could only extract a fraction of such power. The more he gets used to such power, the more fractions of the power he can extract. Once he's completely used to the power/can use it completely (when he absorbed God in base), is when he's in fact growing stronger
That's why he says many times in the middle of the fight that "The Super Saiyan God has more power to offer"
DivineAura44
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Please reread what you just said.
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Good counter argument
DivineAura44
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Fair argument, I guess I'll be specific then. You are saying he is not getting more powerful. Instead he is unlocking more of the power. Which makes him more powerful. Do you see the problem?
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He's getting used to Super Saiyan God, and, as thus, unlocking more of the power it has to offer.
As I told you, take it like when Ginyu was in Goku body (or SSJ transformation, where couldn't use its full power until he perfectioned it): he could only extract a portion of Goku's full power.
As I told you, take it like when Ginyu was in Goku body (or SSJ transformation, where couldn't use its full power until he perfectioned it): he could only extract a portion of Goku's full power.
DivineAura44
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You know he'd be getting more powerful by that logic, right? It doesn't matter either way whether or not doesn't apply to the argument.
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He'd be getting more powerful, yeah. But because he's unlocking more of the power he can access off.
Let's supose SSG full power is 100. Goku at the beginning of the fight could only access to a power of 20. Then he gets used to the transformation and eventually can use the power of 100. Now, that Goku's reached such power, is when he's in fact growing because Accelerated Development.
Even then, Goku absorbing SSG in base is not an Accelerated Development Growth: is not a growth he can replicate in any fight at any time. It's a one-time grow based of getting used to the power of gods and becoming able to access such power in base
Let's supose SSG full power is 100. Goku at the beginning of the fight could only access to a power of 20. Then he gets used to the transformation and eventually can use the power of 100. Now, that Goku's reached such power, is when he's in fact growing because Accelerated Development.
Even then, Goku absorbing SSG in base is not an Accelerated Development Growth: is not a growth he can replicate in any fight at any time. It's a one-time grow based of getting used to the power of gods and becoming able to access such power in base
DivineAura44
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This is the only part I find of significance (because it's the only thing I disagree with.)
Being able to learn and adapt to a completely new power within minutes is most definitely a feat of AD.
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Yeah, but he adapted to a power he already had.
The point is that Goku's not growing 10^40 times stronger. He just adapted to such power/absorbed such power so he can use it even if the form that provided it is gone.
Goku grew 10^40 times stronger when he got transformed into SSG first time (when Saiyans gave him energy which provided a new transformation and you know the rest). After that, when he used such power in base, he was just using the power he obtained with SSG without SSG form
The point is that Goku's not growing 10^40 times stronger. He just adapted to such power/absorbed such power so he can use it even if the form that provided it is gone.
Goku grew 10^40 times stronger when he got transformed into SSG first time (when Saiyans gave him energy which provided a new transformation and you know the rest). After that, when he used such power in base, he was just using the power he obtained with SSG without SSG form
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What does in character mean?
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How the character acts or portrays themselves in the manga. Meaning weaknesses would apply and stuff.
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Oh, okay.
DivineAura44
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Ah this is your disagreement. My point wasn't necessarily about the 4-B to 3-A. It was about whether or not the absorption is AD. Which it is.
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Absorption is absorption, AD is AD, what are you talking about?
DivineAura44
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Are you trying to tell me adapting to a completely new type of power within minutes is anything short of AD?
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I guess? I don't know how that matters anyway. We were talking about Goku's ability to increase his stats, not Goku's ability to adapt to a new power lol
DivineAura44
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We are talking about how good his AD is in general...
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Untrue. He became that strong explicitly because his body grew accustomed to the power of SSG and grew to that level by itself, he didn't absorb it.
Proof:
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The image doesn’t even support what you saidUntrue. He became that strong explicitly because his body grew accustomed to the power of SSG and grew to that level by itself, he didn't absorb it.
Proof:
What
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"Your body has learnt from the experience of fighting in god form. Mairly feeling that level of power was enough on New heights, in a sense the God Power is part of you now. The Red glow of Saiyan Divinity may have left you, but the strength now burns within you like a flame"Untrue. He became that strong explicitly because his body grew accustomed to the power of SSG and grew to that level by itself, he didn't absorb it.
Proof:
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