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By the way all of what I sent was how Garou grew during fights.

I expect the Goku supporters to provide feats of his mid-fight AD as well.

Let's compare.
 
By the way all of what I sent was how Garou grew during fights.

I expect the Goku supporters to provide feats of his mid-fight AD as well.

Let's compare.
I am 98.99% sure Goku's mid-fight AD is not as good as Garou's outside of the 3-A to Low 2-C stuff which apparently is not accepted on the wiki.
 
If it isn't as good as Garou's Monster Form then it isn't nearly as his good Awakened Form either.

And if it isn't as good as his Awakened Form, then is absolutely nowhere near Saitama's AD.
 
I expect the Goku supporters to provide feats of his mid-fight AD as well.:p
We won't bother to tryhard in a fun and Games thread though xD If this was a regular one, I am sure we will surpass Julius vs Zeldris in terms of pages :p
 
We won't bother to tryhard in a fun and Games thread though xD If this was a regular one, I am sure we will surpass Julius vs Zeldris in terms of pages :p
So what I'm hearing is that you concede?

This thread is in fun and games because it utilizes equal stats, thus can't be considered a legit matchup.
 
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Remember when peeps thought Saitama couldn't get any stronger way back during the "OG" Saitama Vs Garou fight? Good times...

Now you've created a mini-Kars I hope you're proud of yourselfs KEK!
 
Anyway...

Round 1: Goku wins because he can go into forms that instantly one-shot Saitama.

Round 2: Saitama stomps. Vastly superior AD, Mimicry, and Time Travel ***** on Goku.

Round 3: Depends on if Goku starts in base or not. If he does, then it's the same as round one. If he doesn't, it's the same as round 2.
 
No one, based on what you've said.

Anyway, let me lay out the facts here.

Garou went from 7-B to Low 6-B in two fights.

Multiplier: 224,280x

He then went from Low 6-B to 6-A in one fight

Multiplier: 793x

And then 6-A to 5-C in one more fight

Multiplier: 28,227x

Overall, that is 4 fights, and a multiplier of 5,020,285,987,080x

All of this was before he became exponentially more powerful with the help of God


Even after gaining God's power and gaining the ability to instantaneously copy power and grow past that power, to a degree far superior to anything his monster self was capable of, Saitama still vastly, and exponentially outgrew him. So quickly that his ability to copy and outgrow the capabilities of others was outmatched almost instantaneously.

It is now your turn to prove Goku has anything near this level of Accelerated Development.

Don't use 3-A to Low 2-C scapegoat this time.
Goku: 4-B to 3-A in one fight short fight.
~10^47
Anyway...

Round 1: Goku wins because he can go into forms that instantly one-shot Saitama.

Round 2: Saitama stomps. Vastly superior AD, Mimicry, and Time Travel ***** on Goku.

Round 3: Depends on if Goku starts in base or not. If he does, then it's the same as round one. If he doesn't, it's the same as round 2.
I pretty much agree.
 
Anyway...

Round 1: Goku wins because he can go into forms that instantly one-shot Saitama.

Round 2: Saitama stomps. Vastly superior AD, Mimicry, and Time Travel ***** on Goku.

Round 3: Depends on if Goku starts in base or not. If he does, then it's the same as round one. If he doesn't, it's the same as round 2.
Sorry, but i mean, in round 1 couldn't be possible that a stronger version of Saitama just appear as a consequence of him trascending time and space and manipulating the laws of causality in this or in alternative timelines (this is still in character, since it is what actually happened in the manga in the current timeline, where the effect preceded the cause and the fight ended in 0 landed punches from Saitama in the present; this even assuming that the Saitama that Fusioned with his future Self didn't retain his strenght and growth) and one shot (or better, zero shot) goku before he get one shotted?

In round 3 couldn't the same event just happen in the same way (no limits on how much strong a Saitama from another Timeline can be, since Saitama constantly grows limitlessly)?
 
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It is now your turn to prove Goku has anything near this level of Accelerated Development.
Goku going from 3-A to Low 2-C. Goku going from 4-B to 3-A. Goku growing 400,000 times stronger during the ToP, too. Nothing in OPM comes close. Let's be honest.
 
Goku going from 3-A to Low 2-C. Goku going from 4-B to 3-A. Goku growing 400,000 times stronger during the ToP, too. Nothing in OPM comes close. Let's be honest.
3-A to Low 2-C was not mid fight.

4-B to 3-A needs scans. Where they at?

400,000x multiplier over something that lasted an hour and involved multiple fights and transformations isn't even close to anything I mentioned nor was it done via only RPL. Try again.
 
3-A to Low 2-C was not mid fight.
Yes it was...

4-B to 3-A needs scans. Where they at?
Happened in the BoG arc. SSG Goku started as 4-B and then reached 3-A due to his feat with Beerus.

400,000x multiplier over something that lasted an hour and involved multiple fights and transformations isn't even close to anything I mentioned nor was it done via only RPL.
Happened within 18 minutes, and does not involve transformations. What are you talking about?
 
No one, based on what you've said.

Anyway, let me lay out the facts here.

Garou went from 7-B to Low 6-B in two fights.

Multiplier: 224,280x

He then went from Low 6-B to 6-A in one fight

Multiplier: 793x

And then 6-A to 5-C in one more fight

Multiplier: 28,227x

Overall, that is 4 fights, and a multiplier of 5,020,285,987,080x

All of this was before he became exponentially more powerful with the help of God


Even after gaining God's power and gaining the ability to instantaneously copy power and grow past that power, to a degree far superior to anything his monster self was capable of, Saitama still vastly, and exponentially outgrew him. So quickly that his ability to copy and outgrow the capabilities of others was outmatched almost instantaneously.

It is now your turn to prove Goku has anything near this level of Accelerated Development.

Don't use 3-A to Low 2-C scapegoat this time.
"Prove Goku has anything near this level but uh yeah I'm gonna stop you from using his highest feat of Accelerated Development teehee."
 
How long till we get a discussion rule to make the 3-A to low 2-C AD illegal
You can’t. Screaming illegal, PIS, outliers won’t help your case. Vegeta did it mid fight, Goku did it, Broly did it, basically every Saiyans that are Low 2-C become Low 2-C during a fight or abusing Zenkai.
 
You gonna imply he bridged the gap through finite multipliers?
no I'm implying that it's a complete outlier, since it's never even implied in the plot that there was an infinite jump (twice) ever, and it's completely contradicted by the fact that he wasn't able to beat Jiren until after he got his ass kicked by him multiple times, even when he got stronger it wasn't enough. That's not mid fight at all, and besides according to your messed up headcanon, it would only even happen if the enemy was low 2-C to begin with and only seems to happen in bursts (like zenkai) while saitama's AD is exponential and constant, meaning that the moment goku catches up to him he'd be immediately left far in the dust within a second or two
 
You can’t. Screaming illegal, PIS, outliers won’t help your case. Vegeta did it mid fight, Goku did it, Broly did it, basically every Saiyans that are Low 2-C become Low 2-C during a fight or abusing Zenkai.
Broly did it via a transformation, and besides even in his strongest forms he was getting completely dominated by gogeta, without any convenient "infinite AD mid fight"
stop. this. stupid. bullshit.
 
no I'm implying that it's a complete outlier, since it's never even implied in the plot that there was an infinite jump (twice) ever, and it's completely contradicted by the fact that he wasn't able to beat Jiren until after he got his ass kicked by him multiple times, even when he got stronger it wasn't enough. That's not mid fight at all, and besides according to your messed up headcanon, it would only even happen if the enemy was low 2-C to begin with and only seems to happen in bursts (like zenkai) while saitama's AD is exponential and constant, meaning that the moment goku catches up to him he'd be immediately left far in the dust within a second or two
Bro doesn't even understand the meaning of outlier, this shit is hilarious. And no, it's not contradicted. Jiren's would raise his power constantly. This is proof the AD was working. And no he wouldn't just catch up and get left. He would catch up again and again until he rises to a power he needs to so he can beat him.
 
Broly did it via a transformation, and besides even in his strongest forms he was getting completely dominated by gogeta, without any convenient "infinite AD mid fight"
stop. this. stupid. bullshit.
Bro he got beat within a few moves, why are you using that as proof?
 
Broly did it via a transformation, and besides even in his strongest forms he was getting completely dominated by gogeta, without any convenient "infinite AD mid fight"
stop. this. stupid. bullshit.
I’m sorry but what transformation are you talking about? The Ikari, which is basically the Ozaru form that give 10* power boost? That ******* transformation is garbage.
 
Bro doesn't even understand the meaning of outlier, this shit is hilarious. And no, it's not contradicted. Jiren's would raise his power constantly. This is proof the AD was working. And no he wouldn't just catch up and get left. He would catch up again and again until he rises to a power he needs to so he can beat him.
do you not understand that this is exactly what garou was doing, and do you also not understand what EXPONENTIAL GROWTH means? it means that goku can match saitama perfectly one second, and then the next second he could already get 10 times stronger and literally one shot him
also Jiren wasn't always "raising power" it's just him suppressing himself less and less for most of the tournament of power, goku was still unable to keep up with Jiren's ACTUAL strength until the very end, after EXTENSIVE power amps
also he was and is still fodder to Jiren in base regardless, so it's only somewhat AD and mostly is UI getting more mastered and then him unlocking a new transformation to win
meanwhile he still gets his ass ******* tossed around in base, so he was nowhere near to "catching up to jiren" without having accidentally discovered a new technique by getting his ass kicked. Very different from AD, and it's not gonna matter in a versus thread since we don't assume he just gets new transformations
 
Mind you , Broly went from weaker than base Vegeta to stronger than SSJ Vegeta in less than a minute of screen time, which is basically a few seconds in real time. And then with a transformation known as Ikari, which is basically Ozaru form without the need to transform (10* power boost), he surpassed SSG, which is the same transformation that can boost someone from 4B to 3A and then matched SSB, which is another 50* power boost.
 
I mean, if we take it at face value then Goku stomps, but once again most writers dont really make a distinction between 3-A and Low 2-C, for them it's just destroying a universe with a bit more a bit less descriptions.

Not to mention that unless Goku started god stomping the moment he became Low 2-C
it's most likely a case of multipliers gone wrong or being treated drastically different than we do on the wiki (like a character fighting another as equal, amping their stats by 3000000x times and still having a fair fight) and even if it's treated as it should that one time then any fight where goku fights an opponent that's not layers of infinitely stronger than him should end instantly since he's growing at infinite speed.
 
it means that goku can match saitama perfectly one second, and then the next second he could already get 10 times stronger and literally one shot him
It's actually hilarious how you're constantly screaming headcanon for arguments in Goku's favor, but then wank the **** outta Saitama's AD with a bunch of headcanon.
 
do you not understand that this is exactly what garou was doing, and do you also not understand what EXPONENTIAL GROWTH means? it means that goku can match saitama perfectly one second, and then the next second he could already get 10 times stronger and literally one shot him
I guess it's my fault but maybe match is not the right term. He powers up enough to BEAT his opponent. Also Garou's is shit compared to Goku.
also Jiren wasn't always "raising power" it's just him suppressing himself less and less for most of the tournament of power, goku was still unable to keep up with Jiren's ACTUAL strength until the very end, after EXTENSIVE power amps
"He wasn't raising power, he was just suppressing himself less in a way which would raise power." Man conversing with you is hilarious. Also are you blaming Goku for a transformation? When I think about it the fact he got that transformation is probably just another AD feat lol.
also he was and is still fodder to Jiren in base regardless, so it's only somewhat AD and mostly is UI getting more mastered and then him unlocking a new transformation to win.
meanwhile he still gets his ass ******* tossed around in base, so he was nowhere near to "catching up to jiren" without having accidentally discovered a new technique by getting his ass kicked. Very different from AD, and it's not gonna matter in a versus thread since we don't assume he just gets new transformations.
As I said, he doesn't AD to completely surpass his opponent. If Goku went Blue with his base above Jiren he would stomp. These arguments are bad.
 
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