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I'm Ninja Rick (Madara vs Rick Sanchez)

Bernkastelll said:
hmmmmmmm, he never did it before

Madara can put Rick into a genjutsu, if he does it, he wins here
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Does not matter if he did not do it. You are limiting his ability based on what was shown which can work in some cases but not in this case, since the whole point of the portal gun is to explore infinte universes with endless potenial.

Yeh, I agree but that prolly wont happen.
 
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
Does not matter if he did not do it. You are limiting his ability based on what was shown which can work in some cases but not in this case, since the whole point of the portal gun is to explore infinte universes with endless potenial.
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Yeah, it indeed does have endless potential, but Rick being able to find an specific monster, across an infinite multiverse, with resistance to mind hax, convice the monster to go to earth just to fight a single dude its not something that likely to happen tho
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
not before the portal gun cuts open madara. (i'm just saying a press of the button and madara is toast) and we all know who is the smarter one.
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rick need to aim and press the buttom, while madara needs to look, rick obviously is smarter, but Madara just need a single look
 
Bernkastelll said:
Yeah, it indeed does have endless potential, but Rick being able to find an specific monster, across an infinite multiverse, with resistance to mind hax, convice the monster to go to earth just to fight a single dude its not something that likely to happen tho
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Ah, I understand. I am talking about if he had prep time. He can study Madara then search universes until he finds the right monster.
 
GokuSparkle said:
But without prep how can he even harm Madara? Is a portal gun something he always has? And won't Madara just dodge that?
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he can shoot multiple portals. really fast.



Rick using portals-Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind.gif
Rick using more portals-Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind.gif|Rick using many portals to fool and escape other Ricks
Portal cuts alien in half-Mortynight Run.gif
Portal Gun's self-destruction-The Wedding Squanchers.gif|The Portal Gun's self-destruction

how do i do gifs here.
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
he can shoot multiple portals. really fast.



Rick using portals-Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind.gif
Rick using more portals-Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind.gif|Rick using many portals to fool and escape other Ricks
Portal cuts alien in half-Mortynight Run.gif
Portal Gun's self-destruction-The Wedding Squanchers.gif|The Portal Gun's self-destruction

how do i do gifs here.
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Fast enough that EMS precog can't allow Madara to react?
 
So,
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
Rick can win this with 1 min of prep. Since he can go into a reality, where time is a million times slower.
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This is no how the multiverse works at all.

This is a huge stomp with all the stuff given to Rick, he just 1. prep things to save himself on the event that Madara may land something on him, 2. prep a way to kill Madara w/o coming close, or 3. be stupid, do none of that, arm himself with lots of weapons with hax that some may one-shot and some don't, and may not be super easy to land, and then throw himself in a "50 50" chance of winning combat, if more so in his favor. Just give him prep time and knowledge, no need to bloodlust him, it might even still be a stomp w/o that.
 
Eficiente said:
So,

This is no how the multiverse works at all.

This is a huge stomp with all the stuff given to Rick, he just 1. prep things to save himself on the event that Madara may land something on him, 2. prep a way to kill Madara w/o coming close, or 3. be stupid, do none of that, arm himself with lots of weapons with hax that some may one-shot and some don't, and may not be super easy to land, and then throw himself in a "50 50" chance of winning combat, if more so in his favor. Just give him prep time and knowledge, no need to bloodlust him, it might even still be a stomp w/o that.
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Yes, it does work like that.
This was shown in the comics, which is the same multiverse as the one in the show version.
 
If Rick has all knowledge about Madara and all his abilities AND has an hour of prep, most likely he would just make a machine or weapon or any other piece of technology to kill Madara. Might be NLF but he's killed beings worse than Madara who were considered planet eaters or something.

Also Rick has social influencing, so he would just befriend Madara and get high with him, gg.
 
Galvino said:
If Rick has all knowledge about Madara and all his abilities AND has an hour of prep, most likely he would just make a machine or weapon or any other piece of technology to kill Madara. Might be NLF but he's killed beings worse than Madara who were considered planet eaters or something.
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He defeated some galaxy conqueror in a single night when he was drunk.........................................
 
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
Yes, it does work like that.
This was shown in the comics, which is the same multiverse as the one in the show version.
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I know the comics, idk what you're talking about. Afaik you're just misinterpreting something and thus claiming this.
 
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
Rick can win this with 1 min of prep. Since he can go into a reality, where time is a million times slower.
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Even if Rick can possibly do that, it seems against the rules and even if it technically wasn't, it just sounds weird. Letting Rick has his normal hour of prep is more than enough. It just isn't worth debating about when it's looking like a stomp already.
 
Galvino said:
Even if Rick can possibly do that, it seems against the rules and even if it technically wasn't, it just sounds weird. Letting Rick has his normal hour of prep is more than enough. It just isn't worth debating about when it's looking like a stomp already.
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Yeh, I agree but I am just naming things he can do with the portal gun.
 
Bernkastelll said:
He defeated some galaxy conqueror in a single night when he was drunk.........................................
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Conquer isn't much of feat, Morty could likely do the same with random tech he can grab from his house.
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
How does the multiverse function then?
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There are infinite universes based on different decisions people do in the timeline, with people remaing their traits and/or shape but taking the role of another person, or having some other parts of their traits not being the same while the rest remains the same or similar, and many other wacky things, but it isn't proven that something as abstract as time would go down slower in other universe. Something like it was only shown in other dimension of unknown size w/o humans, which the rest of the universes have no reason to have the same of, otherwise why would have Rick thrown his wine in that Narnia place and not other universe with a friendly Rick & Morty.

It is also highly implied in the comics that if you stop doing something infinite versions of yourself are doing, they could all stop doing that too, as Morty was going around the multiverse killing future Adolfs H., Rick stopped him, Morty (and Rick, unless he was lying) imagined it wouldn't matter as there are infinite Mortys doing what Morty stopped doing, and then the issue ends with a pyramid of Mortys from other dimensions sitting in a couch doing nothing just like our Morty, with more and more and more Mortys being shown to the point where we can't see them, implying it went on indefinitely. Things like this are why Rick's ability to revive himself is something we don't claim he can do infinite times but simply a stupidly high amounts of times btw.
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Also, one way Rick can throw himself in 2h2 (on the end goal to use some hax at close) if he wanted to is with something like this: "Information Analysis, Analytical Prediction & Instinctive Reaction with prep: Gave Morty a headband with a chronal derandomizer, which scans all possible outcomes of any situation and sends a transmission down the to user's nervous system that directs all its subsequent actions, which allowed him[Morty] to kill aliens bigger and physically superior that were surrounding him (Rick and Morty comics issue 15)"
 
Eficiente said:
Conquer isn't much of feat, Morty could likely do the same with random tech he can grab from his house.

There are infinite universes based on different decisions people do in the timeline, with people remaing their traits and/or shape but taking the role of another person, or having some other parts of their traits not being the same while the rest remains the same or similar, and many other wacky things, but it isn't proven that something as abstract as time would go down slower in other universe. Something like it was only shown in other dimension of unknown size w/o humans, which the rest of the universes have no reason to have the same of, otherwise why would have Rick thrown his wine in that Narnia place and not other universe with a friendly Rick & Morty.

It is also highly implied in the comics that if you stop doing something infinite versions of yourself are doing, they could all stop doing that too, as Morty was going around the multiverse killing future Adolfs H., Rick stopped him, Morty (and Rick, unless he was lying) imagined it wouldn't matter as there are infinite Mortys doing what Morty stopped doing, and then the issue ends with a pyramid of Mortys from other dimensions sitting in a couch doing nothing just like our Morty, with more and more and more Mortys being shown to the point where we can't see them, implying it went on indeely. Things like this are why Rick's ability to revive himself is something we don't claim he can do infinite times but simply a stupidly high amounts of times btw.
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Also, one way Rick can throw himself in 2h2 (on the end goal to use some hax at close) if he wanted to is with something like this: "Information Analysis, Analytical Prediction & Instinctive Reaction with prep: Gave Morty a headband with a chronal derandomizer, which scans all possible outcomes of any situation and sends a transmission down the to user's nervous system that directs all its subsequent actions, which allowed him[Morty] to kill aliens bigger and physically superior that were surrounding him (Rick and Morty comics issue 15)"
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Again there are infinite universes, also the changes are big sometimes. Like when rick went into a whole different universe with different laws such as magic existing and stuff like that. He even met a dungeon master (dnd stuff) there and he crafted a story for the comic. So yeh the changers are big sometimes. Even in the show, when rick went into another universe to sign a dragon deal (S4e4).

Yes, that's how infinity works lol. If I stop doing something then infinite universes are created with infinite possible happening, some small, some big. It matters on which reality he is in.
 
I do agree with a lot of Eficiente's points especially the points that show the match would be a stomp
 
Fihsouuhfosh3 said:
Again there are infinite universes, also the changes are big sometimes. Like when rick went into a whole different universe with different laws such as magic existing and stuff like that. He even met a dungeon master (dnd stuff) there and he crafted a story for the comic. So yeh the changers are big sometimes. Even in the show, when rick went into another universe to sign a dragon deal (S4e4).

Yes, that's how infinity works lol. If I stop doing something then infinite universes are created with infinite possible happening, some small, some big. It matters on which reality he is in.
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"The changes are big sometimes"=/=Anything can happen, it just means some unknown amount of universes and dimensions of unknown size have things like magic or a hell akin to some old horror movie. Punctual examples of very wacky universes do not prove that any possible universe exists simply because claiming so is nonsensical and dogmatic, as in there isn't a Naruto universe, a Terminator universe and a monopoly universe in Rick & Morty because it wasn't proven that there was, there isn't a universe where water boils at 50°, our sun is red and, as claimed before, time is a million times slower, because none of that was proven to exist. Let alone would Rick be aware of them and use that for combat.

Based on what we know, we can speculate there can be a Terminator Rick and a monopoly Rick out there, because there are many something Ricks, we can also speculate that there might be a dimension where human-sized planets and stars live, why not, but there are clear limits to what can be said is akin to what the series proved so far.

Also the "universe" where magic exists is some dimension of unknown size that has that as its special thing going on, like hell has demons that love pain and the Narnia dimension has other set of rules on time. There are not an infinite amount of this special places with an infinite amount of different gimmicks for the same reasons, nor would Rick know them all.

Also also, the premise doesn't even make sense, if time is that slow then it won't start being like that in the moment Madara has his full body there; him going through the portal would be like someone sinking in quicksand, his body will slooowly enter and he will have enough time to react and pull himself out as most of his body isn't in. What an incredible coincidence would be that Rick does something with prep, does something he never did before, and is a fundamentally flawed move to do.
 
Eficiente said:
So,

This is no how the multiverse works at all.

This is a huge stomp with all the stuff given to Rick, he just 1. prep things to save himself on the event that Madara may land something on him, 2. prep a way to kill Madara w/o coming close, or 3. be stupid, do none of that, arm himself with lots of weapons with hax that some may one-shot and some don't, and may not be super easy to land, and then throw himself in a "50 50" chance of winning combat, if more so in his favor. Just give him prep time and knowledge, no need to bloodlust him, it might even still be a stomp w/o that.
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there's no prep time here. just knowledge. (and both have it)

rick is bloodlusted.
 
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