Homestuck Upgrade discussion

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Continued from here

Also including this, this, this, this, this, this, aaaaaaand this so we can talk about any and all upgrades here.

The reason why I made this was because the other thread kinda... died out. Anyways, I hope to have this done by the end of the year so this can be mentioned in the 2019-2020 VBW rewind

 

[QuasiYuri]

If this can be done before the end of the year, we could also do the Epilogues revisions owo (even if it's not that huge, it's still a pretty good thing).

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Honestly, if we make a Green Sun page, it should be "2-A. At least High 1-C, likely 1-B upon destruction"

 

[QuasiYuri]

"At least 2-A, likely far higher" should be better for now.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Dimensional tiering revisions are likely going to change a lot

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

k.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

...I don't think that the revision will change much, unless it involves the "String Theory isn't applicable" stuff, which would nerf LE. If that is the case, then:

• LE is going to a strong High 2-A/Low 1-C/Whatever he becomes

• The 1-A stuff may or may not come sooner

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

High 2-A or Low 1-C is fine. Even "at least Low 1-C"

But yes it does change string theory

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

I'm going to say until the entire "String Theory is no longer High 1-C" is official and what not, let's savor High 1-C/1-B LE while it last

I do disagree with the entire String Theory =/= High 1-C but meh

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Planning to use a second sandox for a Ideal Green Sun page

 

[QuasiYuri]

Yeah, LE and others god tier will likely be downgrade for the dimensionnal tiering (even if I doesn't agree), but likely will be upgrade with the Epilogues revision.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Here's a possible Green Sun page.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Shouldn't it have resistance to gravity hax due to it not collapsing via it's sheer size?

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

And maybe Black hole generation upon destruction?

Fixing the grammar

 

[QuasiYuri]

The gravity thing is already the "ignore the law of physics", I don't think it should have Black Hole generation since it was Calliope's power and not the Green Sun actually being one.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Bump

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

So, for revisions for the Beta and Alpha Kids (AP):

John Egbert: High 7-A to 6-C. Unknow with breath powers | 2-A | At least 2-A. At least High 1-C, likely 1-B

Rose Lolande: High 7-A to 6-C | 2-A | 2-A

Dave Strider: High 7-A to 6-C | 2-A

Jade Harley: High 7-A to 6-C | 2-A

Jane Crocker: High 7-A to 6-C | 5-B | High 4-C

Jake English: High 7-A to 6-C | High 4-C. At least 2-A, likely High 2-A, possibly higher with the Field of Hope

Dirk Strider: High 7-A to 6-C | 2-A

Roxy Lolande: High 7-A to 6-C | 2-A

 

[QuasiYuri]

It's "at least 2-A" more than 2-A and John's last key is more "2-A, at least High 1-C likely 1-B with Recton Powers".

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

K.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

"High 7-A"

Homestuck vs inFAMOUS coming up.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

"High 1-C"

LE being able to fight people on his level for once is coming up

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Bymp

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Aradia Medigo: Unknown | High 7-A to 6-C | High 4-C | 2-A

Tavros: 10-C normally, Unknow with robotic legs | At least High 7-A to 6-C, likely higher | 2-A

Sollux: High 4-C

Karkat: High 7-A to 6-C

Nepeta: High 7-A to 6-C, likely High 4-C

Kanaya: High 7-A to 6-C | High 4-C (Should we add a note on why she doesn't scale to the Condesce?)

Terezi: High 4-C

Vriska: High 7-A to 6-C | At least High 4-C | 2-A

Equius: High 4-C

Gamzee: High 4-C

Eridan: High 7-A to 6-C. High 4-C with Ahab's crosshairs. At least High 4-C with Empress's Wand

Feferi: High 4-C

Aranea: 2-A

Condesce: 2-A

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Wait, why isn't Feferi Star level?

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Oh, forgot to read the Sandbox. Fixing.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Fixed.

 

[Gf7tvtvfvtfyvfvfvfvfvfv]

i agree with everything

sorry if this is a dumb question but was Lord Jack's tier ever agreed on?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Uh, can this be added to the profiles? Obviously 1-A needs more discussion, but the High 7-A stuff should be fine.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

@G yes his tier, no his hax

@Wright we still need to decide on the hax

 

[QuasiYuri]

The hax were mostly accepted but still need to be relooked. The AP stuff (except 1-A) is fine I think.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

So, so far:

• Ap is agreed

• Speed is (mostly) agreed on (I dunno who's going to be remain MFTL+, who's getting nerfed to FTL+, or getting buffed to Immeasurable)

• Maybe hax

 

[QuasiYuri]

Bump

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Bump

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Agree with the changes.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

bomp

 

[Gf7tvtvfvtfyvfvfvfvfvfv]

 

[QuasiYuri]

Bump

Also, if this revision reach an end one day, Epilogues' one likely will be in 2030

 

[The_Wright_Way]

And it goes on and on and on and on and on....

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Can someone remind me what these revisions even are? I totally forgot because of how long this is taking.

 

[QuasiYuri]

9-B/9-A characters becomes High 7-A to 6-C.

Planet lvl ones becomes High 4-C.

Univers+/Low Multiversal ones becomes 2-A.

Removal of the bullshit MFTL+ scaling (Jack x3 being faster than Jack x4).

Infinite/Immeasurable speed for the 2-As.

Huuuuge hax revisions for everyone.

And some keys stuff.