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Since Homestuck's AP/dura and speed revisions will likely soon be made (with the AP/dura part already send to Azatoth), time for a revisions of all the powers. I'll make a separate one for the beta kids, alpha kids, the guardians, and the rest. Let's start:
Shared abilities
Acausality (type 1)
In Homestuck, the majority of players (with their family) aren't born naturally, they are Paradox Clones. But what a Paradox Clone?
A Paradox Clone is the exact duplicate of his real self, and he is guarantee to come back in time for becoming itself, which make him his own duplicate.Which is obviously a paradox, since the character shouldn't be able to exist in a first way, which is what give them Time Paradox Immunity.
If the paradox can't happened (because the one who is supposed to do it die for exemple), the characters are still alive. The timeline is just doomed to not be successful. Also, as shown in Friendsim, a non-paradox clone character will just being stuck in a paradox.
All of the twelves trolls who played Sburb are Paradox Clones. So all of them should have this
Hammerspace (+ range and weird form of sealing)
In Homestuck, a lots of people have something called a Sydallex. It allow the user to captchalogue (pick up) thing inside ,even alive creature. Users can also just take thing like anyone. Sydallex aren't all the same, some can only captchalogue small thing (like razor, cake ect...), while others are able to captchalogue a planet. All of them work with weird thing (like you need to do a rap or to draw the object).
There's two kind of Sydallex, the "normal ones", which allow you to pick up thing and which can throw them as a way to fight (it's used by some characters), the range of throwing can be several meters (like John's one at the beginning) to several kilometers (Gamzee's one throw something accross an ocean), and the others are the "sealing ones", which trap the object or being into something like with this one.
All the trolls should have this, with their range up to "at least several meters with their sydallex" except for Gamzee (with his several kilometers) and the "sealing ones" which are the previous one of Karkat, the current one of Sollux (the two switched their modus, as wanted at the beginning of act 5 and shown to be done when Karkat use his sydallex to pick up a chair) which seal stuff until you can hack the card, Vriska's one which seal object into a 8-ball that you need to break and Kanaya's one, which can't be retrieved if you don't have the key for it (which somewhere in the world, the key for the Matriorb was outside the Multiverse)
+ they should be able to touch non-corporeal beings, since everyone can do that in act 6.
Karkat
Pain Tolerance: Jack's stabbing him didn't hurt.It happens more than one time.
Weapon Mastery: Sicklekind.
Possible Resistance to Mind Control: Stated to possibly being able to resist Vriska's mind control by WoG
Aradia
Mostly fine. Her time manipulation also is quite high, since she has mastered the flow of time and understand he Furhest ring's fabric , which is a place with all aspects (some of them being concepts) merged and with non-linear time and space.
Also her sprite key shouldn't exist sprites never were comparable between each others and she never shown any of the powers said (it's Nanna's one, but it's because she's the maid of life). She's also featless in this form.
Tavros
Flight: With this rocket thing (don't remember the name of this)
Same as Aradia for the sprite thing, but only for Tavrosprite, GCATavrosprite is fine since he scale to a part of himself.
Sollux
Sensing:Can sense someone glancing at him. 4th Wall Awareness: Book 4 said he knows his place in the narrative and this kind of stuff (doesn't have the picture of it yet).
Hacking: He's constantly said to be a hacker, he can even hack a signal completely created by another being or from place like the Furhest Ring.
His weird existence thing, likely some sort of immortality.
His resistance also should be changed to "limited resistance", since it's only half the time.
Nepeta
Just remove the mention of her god tier. It's useless and it's only alternative versions of her.
Kanaya
Resistance to Mind Control: Immune to Vriska's mind control
Terezi
Weapon Mastery: Canekind Flight: with her jetpack.
Supernatural senses: Litteraly see things with her nose (she even "smell words" ), can smell the blood under someone's skin.
Sensing: Can detect non-existent beings (imaginary friend stuff)
Resistance to Mind Control: Immune to Vriska's mind control
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of the same blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Vriska
4th Wall: Possess a real (and official) instagram account and can hear the narratio.
Sensing: said here
Dream Manipulation: Entered WV's dream
Mind Reading: here
Possible Resistance to Mind Control: Should logically have the same resistance as the two lower blood, since it's said that "higher blood are immune" and it start with kanaya/terezi according to the scan. Also stated that she's resistant to this kind of thing.
Likely low Regenerationn in base: Remele, a troll of same blood, has this. The more higher blood you are, the more your healing is strong.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Equius
Change the "can't be seen" stuff into "Resistance to Precognition"
Better Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Gamzee
The troll who really needed this revision:
His sedated key having "nothing" is just all wrong. The key herself is useless, since it's litteraly Gamzee but nice, it's the same as sober. Both should be removed and change for a "Base" key.
Multiple Personnalities: Just no. Being sedated by pie and drink who **** your mind (stated by Gamzee himself) isn't having multiples personnalities. Also Gamzee became "Sober" while he was sedated, because Lil Cal told him the truth (stated by Gamzee too). It should be removed.
Pain Tolerance: He felt pain from Caliborn beating, he crawled and vomited blood. Also he's able to feel pain as said here. It should be removed.
Weapon Mastery: Jokerkind + said to be good with arrows in the game when you're Equius.
Afterimage (shadow) creation: Here
Better fear manipulation: Can use it to make someone weaker and to manipulate others. Confirmed a second time.
Perception Manipulation: Chucklevoodos do that: Soleil's twins messed with the player by creating visual and auditory illusions. He's also the one who created the "mental block" which made the kids unable to see the writing on their walls.
Immortality (and likely Plot Manipulation too): This one is litteraly the worst. NO, his immortality isn't because of a paradox. 1. Equius can die, and he's also a component of Lord, so it's not the reason 2. He's a Paradox Clone. 3. It also extend to his alternate self, so it's not the reason. The reason is already stated multiples time in the webcomic and by WoG: He possess a plot armor which protect him, because "he's important". The other reason is because "he's a clown" which is related to the "Joker Immunity", it's implied/confirmed to be this by WoG. Also the more a villain is higher in the eccheladder, the more he's a meta-villain and mess with plot itself, as said in Homestuck books.
Regenerationn (At least Low-Mid): Regenerate from this (he litteraly have the whole body full of bullets hole). Highblood also are able to heal from being sliced ope , the twins tought that humans were the same , so it kind of confirm that everything they done to the protagonist isn't too much for highblood's Regenerationn.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Erida
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Feferi
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins. Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Condesce
Type 8 immortality: Killed the Handmaid and gain her "demonic powers", which include the curse of immortality (who can't die as long Lord need you).
Precognition: She has visions.
Hacking or Technology Manipulation: Can enter private conversations.
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Hope this will be watch and reach to a conclusion, since most of Homestuck's revisions just fall into oblivion.
Shared abilities
Acausality (type 1)
In Homestuck, the majority of players (with their family) aren't born naturally, they are Paradox Clones. But what a Paradox Clone?
A Paradox Clone is the exact duplicate of his real self, and he is guarantee to come back in time for becoming itself, which make him his own duplicate.Which is obviously a paradox, since the character shouldn't be able to exist in a first way, which is what give them Time Paradox Immunity.
If the paradox can't happened (because the one who is supposed to do it die for exemple), the characters are still alive. The timeline is just doomed to not be successful. Also, as shown in Friendsim, a non-paradox clone character will just being stuck in a paradox.
All of the twelves trolls who played Sburb are Paradox Clones. So all of them should have this
Hammerspace (+ range and weird form of sealing)
In Homestuck, a lots of people have something called a Sydallex. It allow the user to captchalogue (pick up) thing inside ,even alive creature. Users can also just take thing like anyone. Sydallex aren't all the same, some can only captchalogue small thing (like razor, cake ect...), while others are able to captchalogue a planet. All of them work with weird thing (like you need to do a rap or to draw the object).
There's two kind of Sydallex, the "normal ones", which allow you to pick up thing and which can throw them as a way to fight (it's used by some characters), the range of throwing can be several meters (like John's one at the beginning) to several kilometers (Gamzee's one throw something accross an ocean), and the others are the "sealing ones", which trap the object or being into something like with this one.
All the trolls should have this, with their range up to "at least several meters with their sydallex" except for Gamzee (with his several kilometers) and the "sealing ones" which are the previous one of Karkat, the current one of Sollux (the two switched their modus, as wanted at the beginning of act 5 and shown to be done when Karkat use his sydallex to pick up a chair) which seal stuff until you can hack the card, Vriska's one which seal object into a 8-ball that you need to break and Kanaya's one, which can't be retrieved if you don't have the key for it (which somewhere in the world, the key for the Matriorb was outside the Multiverse)
+ they should be able to touch non-corporeal beings, since everyone can do that in act 6.
Karkat
Pain Tolerance: Jack's stabbing him didn't hurt.It happens more than one time.
Weapon Mastery: Sicklekind.
Possible Resistance to Mind Control: Stated to possibly being able to resist Vriska's mind control by WoG
Aradia
Mostly fine. Her time manipulation also is quite high, since she has mastered the flow of time and understand he Furhest ring's fabric , which is a place with all aspects (some of them being concepts) merged and with non-linear time and space.
Also her sprite key shouldn't exist sprites never were comparable between each others and she never shown any of the powers said (it's Nanna's one, but it's because she's the maid of life). She's also featless in this form.
Tavros
Flight: With this rocket thing (don't remember the name of this)
Same as Aradia for the sprite thing, but only for Tavrosprite, GCATavrosprite is fine since he scale to a part of himself.
Sollux
Sensing:Can sense someone glancing at him. 4th Wall Awareness: Book 4 said he knows his place in the narrative and this kind of stuff (doesn't have the picture of it yet).
Hacking: He's constantly said to be a hacker, he can even hack a signal completely created by another being or from place like the Furhest Ring.
His weird existence thing, likely some sort of immortality.
His resistance also should be changed to "limited resistance", since it's only half the time.
Nepeta
Just remove the mention of her god tier. It's useless and it's only alternative versions of her.
Kanaya
Resistance to Mind Control: Immune to Vriska's mind control
Terezi
Weapon Mastery: Canekind Flight: with her jetpack.
Supernatural senses: Litteraly see things with her nose (she even "smell words" ), can smell the blood under someone's skin.
Sensing: Can detect non-existent beings (imaginary friend stuff)
Resistance to Mind Control: Immune to Vriska's mind control
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of the same blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Vriska
4th Wall: Possess a real (and official) instagram account and can hear the narratio.
Sensing: said here
Dream Manipulation: Entered WV's dream
Mind Reading: here
Possible Resistance to Mind Control: Should logically have the same resistance as the two lower blood, since it's said that "higher blood are immune" and it start with kanaya/terezi according to the scan. Also stated that she's resistant to this kind of thing.
Likely low Regenerationn in base: Remele, a troll of same blood, has this. The more higher blood you are, the more your healing is strong.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Equius
Change the "can't be seen" stuff into "Resistance to Precognition"
Better Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Gamzee
The troll who really needed this revision:
His sedated key having "nothing" is just all wrong. The key herself is useless, since it's litteraly Gamzee but nice, it's the same as sober. Both should be removed and change for a "Base" key.
Multiple Personnalities: Just no. Being sedated by pie and drink who **** your mind (stated by Gamzee himself) isn't having multiples personnalities. Also Gamzee became "Sober" while he was sedated, because Lil Cal told him the truth (stated by Gamzee too). It should be removed.
Pain Tolerance: He felt pain from Caliborn beating, he crawled and vomited blood. Also he's able to feel pain as said here. It should be removed.
Weapon Mastery: Jokerkind + said to be good with arrows in the game when you're Equius.
Afterimage (shadow) creation: Here
Better fear manipulation: Can use it to make someone weaker and to manipulate others. Confirmed a second time.
Perception Manipulation: Chucklevoodos do that: Soleil's twins messed with the player by creating visual and auditory illusions. He's also the one who created the "mental block" which made the kids unable to see the writing on their walls.
Immortality (and likely Plot Manipulation too): This one is litteraly the worst. NO, his immortality isn't because of a paradox. 1. Equius can die, and he's also a component of Lord, so it's not the reason 2. He's a Paradox Clone. 3. It also extend to his alternate self, so it's not the reason. The reason is already stated multiples time in the webcomic and by WoG: He possess a plot armor which protect him, because "he's important". The other reason is because "he's a clown" which is related to the "Joker Immunity", it's implied/confirmed to be this by WoG. Also the more a villain is higher in the eccheladder, the more he's a meta-villain and mess with plot itself, as said in Homestuck books.
Regenerationn (At least Low-Mid): Regenerate from this (he litteraly have the whole body full of bullets hole). Highblood also are able to heal from being sliced ope , the twins tought that humans were the same , so it kind of confirm that everything they done to the protagonist isn't too much for highblood's Regenerationn.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Erida
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Feferi
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins. Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Condesce
Type 8 immortality: Killed the Handmaid and gain her "demonic powers", which include the curse of immortality (who can't die as long Lord need you).
Precognition: She has visions.
Hacking or Technology Manipulation: Can enter private conversations.
Regenerationn (at least Low to Low-Mid ): Should have a higher Regenerationn than lower blood like Equius, Remele or the Soleils Twins.
Resistance to Mind Control: blablabla, see the link above with Kanaya/Terezi.
Likely Resistance to Acid: Stelsa, a troll of lower blood, was able to whistand the acid rain of Alterna without any problem.
Hope this will be watch and reach to a conclusion, since most of Homestuck's revisions just fall into oblivion.
