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My calc assumed that without me realizing it. A calc without assuming it still gets you to High 7-A (I sent it higher in the thread). I can argue that Vox absorbed but it's really pointless here ngl.
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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I'm pretty sure I said that/
Yeah, and why is he so pissed all the time and never brags about victory (he literally says "F*ck you" to an infamous Valentino's statement)
Huh?
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So no one is gonna tell me why we dont take things like this into account?
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because Adam isn't solidly FTL(And frankly shouldn't have it there anyway).
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As i said above, the number diff between both of the values he upscales are HUNDREDS of times apart, and EVEYONE on this wiki agrees that Adam isnt that skilled of a fighter, so how would he have THAT much self control as to slow down THAT much?
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Okay, now prove Adam is FTL 100%!
We don't do BS ass holding back tiers, that was a Marvel/DC thing and it was dumb then to the point even Ant couldn't power abuse his way into keeping it. Adam has ZERO solid FTL things.
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Adam: "SUCK MY HOLY LIIIGHT F#%#, YEA"
This wiki: Ahh yes, HIGH HYPERSONIC
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He still should scale as a possibly if nobody cares about removing FTL lol.
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The fact that yall think viv would give him light blasts that arent light speed cuz, idk, maybe she doesnt care for making it EXACTLY like how yall want it
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Also, this, guns in the hazbin verse are genuinely above real ones and I cant see it any other way
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You want to know the only box checked off by Adam's light? it's made of the real thing.
it's never stated to be SoL, we never see it reflect off anything, and the source sure as shit isn't realistic.
Sure, it doesn't check any of the "This sure as shit ain't a laser" boxes, but just one is pretty much universally agreed to not be enough.
I mean I've been against FTL for Adam for awhile lol
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That's attack speed.
This site has standards, y'know. Although I did say that the argument can be made in favor of his light fulfilling the standards.
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cope. seethe. mald.
Could also just say they harm Blitz. even putting him as low as humanly possible he's still Wall level
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Me too (although I've become more fond of a possibility of Relativistic meta recently).
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1. Angels are made of light, that is accepted/stated, so the source his beams come from is himself, a being MADE OF LIGHT
2. yeaa? ik thats attack speed, a SoL is better than hypersonic
3. arent people tryna debunk the only hypersonic feats we have anyway? a subsonic Adam, yea, hell no
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so an Archangel is slower than a Goetia, damn
still, better than the alternative
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Dude, wiki rules (and almost a consensus among powerscaling communities)
Light beams are not SoL by default.
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then call them ANYTHING else, cuz it just feels like we're doing a Starlight, its not light, just energy that looks like it and is called it
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Now prove that light moves at light speed! He's made of HOLY light, I'm not about to give ******* Anduin Speed of Light just because he uses holy light.
...So you accept Adam isn't physically that fast and can't react to those kinds of speeds, good to know.
boohoo. Seriously, you're talking to someone who genuinely does not give a shit where a verse falls as long as I can't poke too many holes into the argument for that. This is why in WoW everyone comparable to Dragon Aspects is 5-B even though I ******* HATE THAT RATING FOR THEM.
TBF Stolas is in no way comparable to his flight speed in terms of actual combat speed and whatnot lmfao
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Would it work to put this verse against tier 7 of supernatural?
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Supernatural as a verse is horrifically outdated. update the profiles first.
Also as it stands a good 90% of Hazbin tier 7s are getting downgraded when I get off my ass and get shit blogged and evaluated, which leaves Alastor's Shadow AP for an "At most 7-A" and then Charlie's demon form, Lucifer, and Adam. As well as those who scale.
ALSO I'm pretty sure Supernatural haxstomps.
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Supernatural feels like a dead verse, so it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
I thought Ap's gap and denial of immortality might be enough for some characters.
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1. why was Charlie low 7-C in base when we have been told by Viv countless times that she is above everyone in hell aside her father
2. why are the sins there too? shouldn't they have upscaled to 7-C as a baseline due to narrative statements and implications?
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And her best feats in base? Shoving Excorcists back. All of her good feats are from her transformations and she's DOGSHIT AT FIGHTING so I usually recommend to not use her.
Because Sins are weird and their scaling beyond being far above Goetias is nonexistent. And I think people would be asking me WTF am I doing if I tried arguing a 5x upscale is reasonable. People don't even like 2x 9/10. Tllmbrg has already asked me like 3 questions on the ****** up state of this verse lol
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for the Charlie thing, ig we just have to wait for s2
but the Sins thing, I mean, ik its not your fault, but they are the most powerful things bar none in hell behind the Morningstar family, why do people have such a hard time accepting their superiority
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The problem isn't that they're not superior, the problem is upscaling them THAT MUCH is going to get funny looks for a verse that is already a pain in the ass to get any CRTs done for.
Like, if they fight any baseline Low 7-C RN they'd AP stomp.
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I doubt even that would happen, the current consensus is that Alastor does not scale at all under any circumstances from any angle whatsoever.
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I mean, only Shion really contested Alastor downscaling from Adam in the last CRT, and well, you know.
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Nah, it was pretty much everyone. That's why I closed it in the first place.
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I contested him physically downscaling. I've always been fine with giving him Shadow AP for it.
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I never once said he downscales physically tho... being in the same tier does not always mean downscaling, it's obvious as hell Al is one-shot value below.
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who says he didnt just summon weaker tentacles? he very clearly wasn't trying
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Headcanon.
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Dude, I myself glaze Al, but this take is not even funny.
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yea, the green color of the explosion still looks like it was Al, and maybe the tentacles caused it
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So? That doesnt change the fact Alastor has nothing showcasing he scales to the Low 7-C feat
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other than he caused it? most explosions in hell are normal in color, the whole green colored attacks thing is an Alastor and Mammon thing rn
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i stand corrected on the pilot explosion
Guess the tentacle pieces flying towards the screen arent real
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