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Introduction
A while back, I created this thread to bump all high-god tiers of the Chainsaw Man verse to City level+ to Mountain level. However, it was rejected based on two main points:
1. The destruction displayed by the Gun Devil indicates that KE-based calculations are not reliable.
2. This feat is considered an outlier.
Arguments
1. The first argument doesn't appear to be logical at all. Makima spots the Gun Devil at a distance of 500 km after it has been moving towards her for 1 second. The Gun Devil continues moving towards Makima for an additional 2 seconds before it stops and begins firing. The distance from the Gun Devil to Makima when it stops is 1.5 km (his maximum known range), which in turn is Massively Hypersonic. Considering his mass, this gives you his K.E. The problem raised by multiple CGM's is that the sequence of destruction does not align with 7-B K.E, which would vaporize everything without leaving anything behind. This is disingenuous because the author doesn't write his manga to validate calcs. Moreover, the scene was meant to portray the destruction and death of many innocent lives rather than the absolute destruction a being with 7-B K.E would cause.
2. This argument doesn't hold either. The Gun Devil is shown to be the strongest non-primal devil in the series, having feats that no low to mid-tier would scale to at all apart from Angel, which Makima needed to utilize 1000 years of lifespan to reach this level of AP using his weapons. His current highest feat was done when he was at full power, moving at mach 300+ and flattening multiple skyscrapers with his K.E. We were only shown a cropped portion of this damage, so the potential damage could extend for kilometers.
Mainly, this thread was created for other CGM's to lay their opinion on the matter.
Scaling
Scaling remains the same as the previous thread, which I will re-list here.
Note:
Fear Scaling: As Devils embodying the fear of a concept, the more feared they are, the more powerful they become even a relatively minor boost in fear can immensely boost a devil's overall strength and effects of their abilities, Due to this once a Devil is more feared than another Devil, their AP and Speed surpasses that said devil.
Characters who Upscale from the Gun Devil 100%'s AP to 100 Megatons (Mountain level)
Primordial Devils; These devils have been described as "transcendent" compared normal devils and have never experienced death before due to their immerse power, as they possess names that are feared by nearly every human on the Planet, eg; Falling and Darkness. They have been stated to be far stronger than the likes of "some Gun Devil", a weakened Falling Devil with just her appearance on earth caused gravity fluctuations all around the globe causing nations to suffer from damage and become immensely poorer
The Chainsaw Devil; Is known as the devil that devils fears the most which puts him at a comparable level to the Primordial Devils and far above the Gun Devil, Makima considered a proper fight with Pochita "unwinnable" and needed to resort to heavily depowering him, simultaneously fought both 4 Horsemen & the Weapon Devils while in Hell one of the four horsemen being the Death Devil whom is the strongest Devil with the name most feared of all, Makima planned to use the Chainsaw Devil's power to erase her from existence. Defeated devils that embodied concepts such as nuclear weapons, an in-universe volcano eruption and starlight that would break children's minds showing his extreme superiority to the Gun Devil
Characters who scale to the Gun Devil 100%'s AP
Makima: Makima is the Control Devil; (The devil that embodies the fear of loosing free will) her fear reaches a greater extent due to countries all around the world having fear for Makima and refused to stand in her way of bringing peace, due to this her AP would scale to 85.98 Megatons due to being able to draw blood from the Chainsaw Devil.
That's all.
Agree: (1:3) @FuriousFieryFist, @TheRustyOne, @That_moron2, @IDK3465
Disagree: (2:2) @Chariot190, @Raiden38, @AnAverageUsername, @SunDaGamer
Neutral: (0:0)
A while back, I created this thread to bump all high-god tiers of the Chainsaw Man verse to City level+ to Mountain level. However, it was rejected based on two main points:
1. The destruction displayed by the Gun Devil indicates that KE-based calculations are not reliable.
2. This feat is considered an outlier.
Arguments
1. The first argument doesn't appear to be logical at all. Makima spots the Gun Devil at a distance of 500 km after it has been moving towards her for 1 second. The Gun Devil continues moving towards Makima for an additional 2 seconds before it stops and begins firing. The distance from the Gun Devil to Makima when it stops is 1.5 km (his maximum known range), which in turn is Massively Hypersonic. Considering his mass, this gives you his K.E. The problem raised by multiple CGM's is that the sequence of destruction does not align with 7-B K.E, which would vaporize everything without leaving anything behind. This is disingenuous because the author doesn't write his manga to validate calcs. Moreover, the scene was meant to portray the destruction and death of many innocent lives rather than the absolute destruction a being with 7-B K.E would cause.
2. This argument doesn't hold either. The Gun Devil is shown to be the strongest non-primal devil in the series, having feats that no low to mid-tier would scale to at all apart from Angel, which Makima needed to utilize 1000 years of lifespan to reach this level of AP using his weapons. His current highest feat was done when he was at full power, moving at mach 300+ and flattening multiple skyscrapers with his K.E. We were only shown a cropped portion of this damage, so the potential damage could extend for kilometers.
Mainly, this thread was created for other CGM's to lay their opinion on the matter.
Scaling
Scaling remains the same as the previous thread, which I will re-list here.
Note:
Fear Scaling: As Devils embodying the fear of a concept, the more feared they are, the more powerful they become even a relatively minor boost in fear can immensely boost a devil's overall strength and effects of their abilities, Due to this once a Devil is more feared than another Devil, their AP and Speed surpasses that said devil.
Characters who Upscale from the Gun Devil 100%'s AP to 100 Megatons (Mountain level)
Primordial Devils; These devils have been described as "transcendent" compared normal devils and have never experienced death before due to their immerse power, as they possess names that are feared by nearly every human on the Planet, eg; Falling and Darkness. They have been stated to be far stronger than the likes of "some Gun Devil", a weakened Falling Devil with just her appearance on earth caused gravity fluctuations all around the globe causing nations to suffer from damage and become immensely poorer
The Chainsaw Devil; Is known as the devil that devils fears the most which puts him at a comparable level to the Primordial Devils and far above the Gun Devil, Makima considered a proper fight with Pochita "unwinnable" and needed to resort to heavily depowering him, simultaneously fought both 4 Horsemen & the Weapon Devils while in Hell one of the four horsemen being the Death Devil whom is the strongest Devil with the name most feared of all, Makima planned to use the Chainsaw Devil's power to erase her from existence. Defeated devils that embodied concepts such as nuclear weapons, an in-universe volcano eruption and starlight that would break children's minds showing his extreme superiority to the Gun Devil
Characters who scale to the Gun Devil 100%'s AP
Makima: Makima is the Control Devil; (The devil that embodies the fear of loosing free will) her fear reaches a greater extent due to countries all around the world having fear for Makima and refused to stand in her way of bringing peace, due to this her AP would scale to 85.98 Megatons due to being able to draw blood from the Chainsaw Devil.
That's all.
Agree: (1:3) @FuriousFieryFist, @TheRustyOne, @That_moron2, @IDK3465
Disagree: (2:2) @Chariot190, @Raiden38, @AnAverageUsername, @SunDaGamer
Neutral: (0:0)
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