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s̵o̵ ̵f̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵n̵supernatural skill stuff stomps.
Master Roshi doesn't have a manga profile, the anime went a different route iircNot on his page.
It's not "fake skill" just because it's outside of what's replicable by humans and under the laws of physics.s̵o̵ ̵f̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵n̵
Except in Garou's case, most of it actually can be tangibly and reasonably explained.n̵a̵h̵ ̵f̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵
̵m̵i̵y̵a̵m̵o̵t̵o̵ ̵c̵u̵t̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵d̵i̵m̵e̵n̵s̵i̵o̵n̵s̵ ̵i̵s̵n̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵l̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵a̵m̵e̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵s̵o̵n̵ ̵d̵o̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵w̵a̵c̵k̵y̵ ̵h̵a̵x̵ ̵v̵i̵a̵ ̵"̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵"̵ ̵i̵s̵n̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵l̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵
I̵f̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵q̵u̵e̵s̵t̵i̵o̵n̵ ̵c̵a̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵a̵c̵t̵u̵a̵l̵l̵y̵ ̵b̵e̵ ̵t̵a̵n̵g̵i̵b̵l̵y̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵q̵u̵a̵n̵t̵i̵f̵i̵a̵b̵l̵y̵ ̵e̵x̵p̵l̵a̵i̵n̵e̵d̵ ̵u̵n̵d̵e̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵p̵r̵o̵s̵p̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵i̵r̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵.̵ ̵T̵h̵a̵t̵'̵s̵ ̵j̵u̵s̵t̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵a̵u̵t̵h̵o̵r̵ ̵s̵a̵y̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵s̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵a̵t̵t̵r̵i̵b̵u̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵i̵t̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵i̵t̵
What is this weird thing you do? You cross out every letter.n̵a̵h̵ ̵f̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵
̵m̵i̵y̵a̵m̵o̵t̵o̵ ̵c̵u̵t̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵d̵i̵m̵e̵n̵s̵i̵o̵n̵s̵ ̵i̵s̵n̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵l̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵a̵m̵e̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵s̵o̵n̵ ̵d̵o̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵w̵a̵c̵k̵y̵ ̵h̵a̵x̵ ̵v̵i̵a̵ ̵"̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵"̵ ̵i̵s̵n̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵r̵e̵a̵l̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵
I̵f̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵e̵a̵t̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵q̵u̵e̵s̵t̵i̵o̵n̵ ̵c̵a̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵a̵c̵t̵u̵a̵l̵l̵y̵ ̵b̵e̵ ̵t̵a̵n̵g̵i̵b̵l̵y̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵q̵u̵a̵n̵t̵i̵f̵i̵a̵b̵l̵y̵ ̵e̵x̵p̵l̵a̵i̵n̵e̵d̵ ̵u̵n̵d̵e̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵p̵r̵o̵s̵p̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵i̵r̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵.̵ ̵T̵h̵a̵t̵'̵s̵ ̵j̵u̵s̵t̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵a̵u̵t̵h̵o̵r̵ ̵s̵a̵y̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵s̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵a̵t̵t̵r̵i̵b̵u̵t̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵i̵t̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵s̵k̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵a̵k̵e̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵i̵t̵
Garou is able to analytically predict through observation of one's stance, center of gravity, balance, muscle tension, breathing, and energy.
He's so skilled that his natural fighting instinct is able to fight at the level of Bang by itself, this is what I mean when I say he is able to fight while asleep. Without the need for Garou's conscious thoughts. Now, this is obviously a lot less explainable and quite frankly impossible, but it still goes to show how absolutely insane Garou's fighting IQ is. He's trained in martial arts to the point that his unconscious is a master martial artist.
Sure, but his unconscious being that skilled doesn't inherently mean his conscious is a billion times more skilled, of course, it is more skilled, but at the end of the day it's "martial mimicry", which is good but the difference between conscious and unconscious is unquantifiable and must be quantified based on their own innate skill feats and martial displays. Garou doing cool stuff is just good instincts + a special ability + martial mimicry, which while good I feel is being overblown just a tiny bit.And his unconscious is in fact so skilled that it can copy attacks after experiencing them a single time. Something Goku has never shown off.
And his unconscious is in fact so skilled that it can copy attacks after experiencing them a single time. Something Goku has never shown off. Achieving UI while "unconscious" doesn't count for Goku's skill btw, and can hardly be compared. It was just some random plot bullshit with him absorbing a spirit bomb and awakening because of "Willpower". He didn't actually accomplish anything with skill there. It was just another bullshit DB power boost. As for Goku's Analytical Predictions, pretty sure the author doesn't even try to give it any reasonable explanation lol. What even is explained in DB? Feel like all I've seen is some lackluster statements.
What is this weird thing you do? You cross out every letter.
I̵t̵ ̵a̵l̵w̵a̵y̵s̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵l̵a̵d̵This became a crotch measuring contest quickly...
But hands that turn to nukes has the best explanation ever.As for Goku's Analytical Predictions, pretty sure the author doesn't even try to give it any reasonable explanation lol. What even is explained in DB? Feel like all I've seen is some lackluster statements
But like, it went from civil discussion to 2020 Presidential Debate in less than 24 hours lolI̵t̵ ̵a̵l̵w̵a̵y̵s̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵l̵a̵d̵
This became a crotch measuring contest quickly...
Yeah… I think I’ll just let @Chariot190 go through this, since it’s his first time seeing these arguments.Except in Garou's case, most of it actually can be tangibly and reasonably explained.
Garou is able to analytically predict through observation of one's stance, center of gravity, balance, muscle tension, breathing, and energy.
Through that, he foresees your next movements and is able to dodge before you even attack. He's shown this off many times, against those who also have the ability to do the same thing.
He's so skilled that his natural fighting instinct is able to fight at the level of Bang by itself, this is what I mean when I say he is able to fight while asleep. Without the need for Garou's conscious thoughts. Now, this is obviously a lot less explainable and quite frankly impossible, but it still goes to show how absolutely insane Garou's fighting IQ is. He's trained in martial arts to the point that his unconscious is a master martial artist.
And his unconscious is in fact so skilled that it can copy attacks after experiencing them a single time. Something Goku has never shown off. I think this is personally one of Garou's greatest feats. Because it shows that he has mastered the art of copying to the point of not even needing to see or consciously think to replicate and master techniques. And these aren't just your run-of-the-mill martial arts either, we're talking about a skill that Bang uses as a trump card, something he's taken years to master for himself.
Achieving UI while "unconscious" doesn't really count for Goku's skill btw, and can hardly be compared. It was just some random plot bullshit with him absorbing a spirit bomb and awakening because of "Willpower". He didn't actually accomplish anything with skill there. It was just another bullshit DB power boost. Him mastering it is a different story, though. That counts for some skill, but again, it pales in comparison considering Garou has done the same thing with his absorbed techniques. And don't bother with the "It takes gods millions of-" Just stop it already. This doesn't prove anything except that they really aren't all that.
As for Goku's Analytical Predictions, pretty sure the author doesn't even try to give it any reasonable explanation lol. What even is explained in DB? Feel like all I've seen is some lackluster statements. More reasons I find it hard to even take the stuff seriously.
Sure, but his unconscious being that skilled doesn't inherently mean his conscious is a billion times more skilled, of course, it is more skilled, but at the end of the day it's "martial mimicry", which is good but the difference between conscious and unconscious is unquantifiable and must be quantified based on their own innate skill feats and martial displays.
This isn't, fighting while asleep isn't "skill", you said yourself, it's instinct, it's more a hax ability if anything even if it's being played off as a testament of skill, it's not actually a display of skill, it's just a neat ability derived from instincts, but it's in no way an actual tangible skill feat. I'll give you it's a very cool, useful and based display of his instincts and what not, but as you said yourself, it's a bit sus.
Not always (e.g. Spider-Man per my earlier joke).Instinctive Reaction just tells you about a person's natural fighting instinct.
Well, in this context anyway.Not always (e.g. Spider-Man per my earlier joke).
This became a crotch measuring contest quickly...
Help me move this thread to "General Discussion" or "Vs Threads"
In the meantimeYes this one is really good. Legit skill.
This isn't, fighting while asleep isn't "skill", you said yourself, it's instinct, it's more a hax ability if anything even if it's being played off as a testament of skill, it's not actually a display of skill, it's just a neat ability derived from instincts, but it's in no way an actual tangible skill feat. I'll give you it's a very cool, useful and based display of his instincts and what not, but as you said yourself, it's a bit sus.
Sure, but his unconscious being that skilled doesn't inherently mean his conscious is a billion times more skilled, of course, it is more skilled, but at the end of the day it's "martial mimicry", which is good but the difference between conscious and unconscious is unquantifiable and must be quantified based on their own innate skill feats and martial displays. Garou doing cool stuff is just good instincts + a special ability + martial mimicry, which while good I feel is being overblown just a tiny bit.
Don't know why you're going on a tangent at me, I never said Goku was more skilled, or Garou, in fact I didn't even really saying anything beyond lol hax shit ain't skill
It means don't really pay it any heed, I'm not entirely seriously, potentially joking depending on the context, or I'm not exactly invested. Could mean a lot of shit depending on the context it's applied in, don't worry to much about it.
And IR is a layered skill in DB.It's not a hax ability at all. Hax is durability negation, lol. Instinctive Reaction just tells you about a person's natural fighting instinct. I will agree it is separate from intellectual skill, but it is definitely relevant when talking about martial arts prowess.
What's with the usage of so many <<<< ???And IR is a layered skill in DB.
We have said this time and time again.
I just found Goku instinctively reacting to Beerus via your logic.
<<<<<<Master Roshi in tournament of power <<<<<<<Beerus’ Ultra instinct <<<<< Goku’s Ultra instinct <<<<<< several improvement of a mastered UI technique.
If I were you dropping this your IR point would make Garou have a better chance in this.
I summarized my “<<<<“ immensely.What's with the usage of so many <<<< ???
If I do the same thing, I get this lmao.
Human Garou Instinctive Reaction <<<<<<< Half-Monster Garou (Post-Darkshine) Instinctive Reaction <<<<<< Half-Monster Garou (Post-Centipede) Insctinive Reaction <<<<<< Monster Garou Instinctive Reaction <<<<<<< Awakened Garou Instinctive Reaction
I'm not really sure what the deal with it is. I can just slap a few "<<<" on something for no reason and it's apparently more of a feat I guess?Is<<<<<<<<<<<this<<<<<<<the meta<<<<<<<now<<<<?
You have to be trolling I hope you are cause that genuinely made me laugh, bro.I summarized my “<<<<“ immensely.
Trust me, you don’t want me to fully expand it
Forgot the <<<<<<<<Goku improved his UI several times in each Arc after ToP
Before you do… just remember…I'm gonna unwatch this thread. I thought it was gonna be fun, but it's a freakin' headache.
I skillstomp them both because I'm actually real.
Ew.Before you do… just remember…
Asta >>>> Zoro
Garou has improved his instincts many times throughout the series as well.Ngl I laughed too.
Goku improved his UI several times in each Arc after ToP
Moved to VS threadsHelp me move this thread to "General Discussion" or "Vs Threads"
Choose the one that you see fit. Thank you.
Forgot the <<<<<<<<
IM SORRY WHAT????Moved to VS threads