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No. This is wrong. Freeza knows martial arts.Frieza is a painfully good example. But characters like him have access to ki without incorporating it into martial arts. The majority though have access to ki while incorporating it into martial arts. Why? Who knows.
Oh I see, sorry for that.No. This is wrong. Freeza knows martial arts.
I mean, keeping up with goku, while being at his level of power would require some level of skill in combat.Yeah. Also the same with Vegeta if you think about it since he doesn't (usually) use martial arts. I guess these characters just incorporate ki in a different fighting style of their own. I mean martial arts isn't the only type of combat.
A 7 page long skill debate. You really love to see it. Skill really has come a long way huh?
a 7 page long skill debate......let's make it 8.
Gaolang >>>>>>>>>>Yujiro claps them both at the same time
Me irl>>>>>>>>>>>>Gaolang >>>>>>>>>>
Me irl>>>>>>>>>>>>
Shouldn't super manga Goku have damage reduction?Yes.
Although his Full Nelson is meh
In short, Goku was already a master at 12, has a lot of MA techniques. Then in DBZ it was more of “who has a higher power and/or skill”. Then DBS was able to incorporate Martial arts but on a supernatural level. Such as damage reduction to counter weak point strikes from an opponent faster than him, predict a time stop spammer, match the speed, angle and power of a person’s strike to nullify its strength (the shockwave from their strikes will destroy the universe if Goku failed), and Ultra Instinct, a technique which resembles Mushin Irl, so it’s like a God/supernatural version of it that is extremely difficult to master.
garou no diffs was the consensus, we can close the thread now.So who has an edge rn?
Based on what?Shouldn't super manga Goku have damage reduction?
Since whengarou no diffs was the consensus, we can close the thread now.
The "Can they beat Goku tho"What's stopping Garou and Goku from copying eachother until they lose all hope and sense of self?
Me.What's stopping Garou and Goku from copying eachother until they lose all hope and sense of self?
Goku copies Ki based attacks not fighting styles. His power mimicry has shown limits too. He didn’t copy time skip, tri beam, special beam cannon, galick gun and the fact that there have been various techniques that Goku had to learn over a period of time like Kiao ken, spirit bomb and ultra instinct. Garou would instantly copy everything I just listedWhat's stopping Garou and Goku from copying eachother until they lose all hope and sense of self?
Goku has feats of copying fighting styles and even creating them himself.Goku copies Ki based attacks not fighting styles. His power mimicry has shown limits too. He didn’t copy time skip, tri beam, special beam cannon, galick gun and the fact that there have been various techniques that Goku had to learn over a period of time like Kiao ken, spirit bomb and ultra instinct. Garou would instantly copy everything I just listed
.He didn’t copy time skip, tri beam,
.Kiao ken, spirit bomb and ultra instinct.
Slow down there buddyGarou would instantly copy everything I just listed
Everyone in OPM has ki, and it could be argued that him copying Blast's gravity knuckle was ki related.No, absolutely not. Garou has no feats of copying life force based super natural energy like chi. He also isn't copying time skip or ultra instinct at all lmao.
Examples?Goku has feats of copying fighting styles and even creating them himself.
So..? There's a difference between didn't and couldn't.He didn’t copy time skip, tri beam, special beam cannon, galick gun
Based on what? When has Garo ever copied ki-related techniques? Let alone God ki-related.Garou would instantly copy everything I just listed
time skip.
Take it back a notch.Garou would instantly copy everything I just listed
What? No? Due to equalization they do, so their life force can be sensed or absorbed, but they do not gain abilities from it.Everyone in OPM has ki, and it could be argued that him copying Blast's gravity knuckle was ki related.
Goku copying master martial artist chappa's entire martial arts by only seeing it used once.Examples?
Ok the first link just shows Goku FAILING to copy tien’s four arm techniqueWhat? No? Due to equalization they do, so their life force can be sensed or absorbed, but they do not gain abilities from it.
Goku copying master martial artist chappa's entire martial arts by only seeing it used once.
And Goku creating the mad fist on the spot to counter roshi's drunk fist. (By the way, this fighting style is the same one that shat on garou)
...Ok the first link just shows Goku FAILING to copy tien’s four arm technique
The second link is Goku doing a half ass copy of roshi’s drunken style.
The third link is just Goku fighting normally with no statements of copying
Goku doesn’t copy fighting styles. There’s a reason his profile doesn’t say he can copy fighting styles
Also guys let’s not forget that Goku rarely goes for power mimicry.
Honestly when was the last time we saw Goku use power mimicry? He didn’t use it a single time the entire run time of the dragon ball super anime and one time in the manga but Goku himself considered the Haiki he copied a failure.
Garou’s entire fighting style is going in for the power mimicry ASAP.