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Hazbin Hotel - Immortality + Hax + Cosmic Feats + Adam Addition

How about like 95% of the cast being at least on the level of weak power Overlords?(Hi Husk)

You gotta remember the only guy dragging the rest down in scaling is Pentious who IS an average sinner and generally he only does minor damage to the rest of the cast from what we saw. He is an anti-feat generator, yes, but his power level is kind of what you'd expect from the average sinner walking around.
Husk is not even a overlord, he lost everything to Alastor, Overlords posses a great amount of souls (millions, with Velvette having 100 million)also Sir pentious is not the avarage sinner, he is actually consider pathetic and completely harmless, so he is even below a sinner
 
Husk is not even a overlord, he lost everything to Alastor,
hence why I called him a weak power Overlord. In his hayday he might nave been ridiculous, but generally it goes Pentious/Average Sinners/Blitzø(Sinners can be pathetic in combat if you really want to get into it.)<<most of the cast(Husk and Angel went 2v100 with an entire hellborn gang with only minor injuries to their names, and can push back against Exorcists assuming they have weapons that don't get cut through)<<General Overlords(2/3 of the Vees and just overlords we have no idea about, Vaggie and Lute are in this tier, as is general Excorcist durability)<<<Base Alastor and Vox<<<Adam<<<Lucifer/Other Seraphim.

You can throw Seven Deadly somewhere above Alastor and Vox.
 
That isnt evidence, thats speculation since we have no idea why they are a threat
That’s no speculation? We have a direct statement that an immense amount of Sinners is a direct threat to Heaven. Not them becoming smarter or haxier, just bigger in numbers. This is only possible in durability scenario, not Invulnerability one.
entirely possible Lilith activates this
She is not in big game after Adam’s deal, yet they still need to kill Sinners.
and the rest of Heaven doesnt know she is under Adams control
Sera is his boss, so she has to know, yet she continues the exterminations. And her concerns were not “Lilith will help”, they were “they are becoming too large in numbers”.
 
hence why I called him a weak power Overlord. In his hayday he might nave been ridiculous, but generally it goes Pentious/Average Sinners/Blitzø(Sinners can be pathetic in combat if you really want to get into it.)<<most of the cast(Husk and Angel went 2v100 with an entire hellborn gang with only minor injuries to their names, and can push back against Exorcists assuming they have weapons that don't get cut through)<<General Overlords(2/3 of the Vees and just overlords we have no idea about, Vaggie and Lute are in this tier, as is general Excorcist durability)<<<Base Alastor and Vox<<<Adam<<<Lucifer/Other Seraphim.

You can throw Seven Deadly somewhere above Alastor and Vox.
those are not hellborn, they are sinners (they are back again the next episode, but this time to kill mimzy).
the seven deadly sins are stronger than the ars goetia (Satan can remove the power of stolas)
 
That’s no speculation? We have a direct statement that an immense amount of Sinners is a direct threat to Heaven.
Education time, in the show it was already said that Lilith thrived and empowers the demon kind with her voice THEN its stated that as the numbers grew so did its power. Then it is stated "Threatened by THIS" talking about LILITH AND SINNERS implying a connection to the threat.
Sera is his boss, so she has to know
Headcanon
 
I’d think that he didn’t lose everything, since he says “I sold my soul to save my power”.
So maybe he saved some of Overlord power methinks, although lost the status.
Husk: [Sighs.] I was an Overlord once, you know.
Husk was a overlord, he is not one now anyway, after all, Overlords are all rich and look elegant...that guy looks like he went through 35 years of pure depression and alcohol
 
Education time, in the show it was already said that Lilith thrived and empowers the demon kind with her voice THEN its stated that as the numbers grew so did its power. Then it is stated "Threatened by THIS" talking about LILITH AND SINNERS implying a connection to the threat.

Headcanon
Cool it a bit, yeah? I do agree with you on this one but the tone needs some work.

Or watching a Bob Ross video to calm down lol
those are not hellborn, they are sinners (they are back again the next episode, but this time to kill mimzy).
... you do realize those are the exact same race as the gang I.M.P fights for a few episodes, right? Shark people. You are blatantly wrong.
the seven deadly sins are stronger than the ars goetia (Satan can remove the power of stolas)
I didn't bring up Ars Goetia for a reason.
 
I completely ******* forgot that

You know why didn't I put that into his AP section lmfao
Ngl I myself remembered this just now and I never paid much attention to this statement either.

But yeah, that would be a very neat addition to his AP, that’s for sure.
Education time, in the show it was already said that Lilith thrived and empowers the demon kind with her voice THEN its stated that as the numbers grew so did its power. Then it is stated "Threatened by THIS" talking about LILITH AND SINNERS implying a connection to the threat.
That’s cool. One problem: even after Lilith is out of the game (for at least 7 years), they STILL exterminate Sinners and Sera’s concern is SPECIFICALLY growth in population number.
Headcanon

 
That’s cool. One problem: even after Lilith is out of the game (for at least 7 years), they STILL exterminate Sinners
Nobody knows about Lilith, its a secret thought that was obvious. Not even her daughter or husband knows.
and Sera’s concern is SPECIFICALLY growth in population number.
Yes because she knows that Lilith is a threat WITH sinners

Boy this aint no evidence, someone like Adam for sure is keeping secret and until you get evidence that Sera knows about Lilith I am declining your speculation and headcanons
 
Really weird how they look EXACTLY like a hellborn race we know, huh?

Nah, let's go with the headcanon that just ignores Helluva Boss(the better show) entirely
friend, there are some sinners who look like natives of hell, but they are sinners, there is the drowned boy from the unhappy campers chapter and the guy looks like someone who would come from the ring of envy (and he is a teenager, poor guy, he has to live now with all kinds of evil people just because he illegaly downloaded a music)
 
Nobody knows about Lilith, its a secret thought that was obvious. Not even her daughter or husband knows.
Funny how her daughter does indeed know that she had been rising Hell and disappeared. At the very least, Sera would know that she is not a threat anymore.
Yes because she knows that Lilith is a threat WITH sinners
She never mentions Lilith. Do you hear her saying her name? I don’t!
 
friend, there are some sinners who look like natives of hell, but they are sinners, there is the drowned boy from the unhappy campers chapter and the guy looks like someone who would come from the ring of envy.
We know what Envy folks look like, and that ain't it.

Until you can prove those are sinners and not the Hellborn race we know for a fact exists, this argument is over.
This bites you in the ass.
 
At the very least, Sera would know that she is not a threat anymore.
Headcanon
She never mentions Lilith. Do you hear her saying her name? I don’t!
Education time, in the show it was already said that Lilith thrived and empowers the demon kind with her voice THEN its stated that as the numbers grew so did its power. Then it is stated "Threatened by THIS" talking about LILITH AND SINNERS implying a connection to the threat.
 
bro, literraly the guys apper again the next episode, it is the same ******* shark guy
Prove it! It's not uncommon in animation to reuse assets you've already drawn, and the shark guys look pretty much the same in the first place when we see em in Helluva lol
 
Prove it! It's not uncommon in animation to reuse assets you've already drawn, and the shark guys look pretty much the same in the first place when we see em in Helluva lol

but in the context of this series, where sinners are immortal, is there a loan shark just like Helluva Boss?
 
You're right! And the point went over your head! You have no real proof these are sinners, not Hellborn!

While I have ocean's razor on my side you have headcanon and a likely animation quirk.
you also have the headcanon of them being hellborn
 
latest

all of this, are sinners
None of which are Sharks, how interesting!
 
Headcanon
It isn’t, since Sera always specifically refers to Hell’s population, not Lilith. Heck, there would be NO need to kill Sinners if the sole reason was Lilith, since you would need to get rid of her and the amount of Sinners would not matter.

And she does know that Lilith is not a threat, since she does not appoint a peace talk with her, everybody in Hell knows she is gone and she is the top of Heaven.

It’s more that YOUR statements are headcanon.
 
For the record, I only agreed with Low High. I understand and even appreciate FinePoint's perspective of trying to adhere to a verses' intentions, but there should also be showings of this in practice. Until a proper low godly feat is found, I'd stick to Low High as originally suggested.
 
5-B with Size Manipulation (Seraphims are capable of growing the size of planets
So when I first saw this, it seemed like a visualization used only to powered the narrative (It is generally used to show the inferiority and god complex of the characters) and I didn't take it seriously, but considering that size manipulation is a common ability in the high/top tiers, a possibly rating might be good.
 
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