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Aite.
So long as this is hax stuff and AD and not "lmao lightning blast" then sure, if it floats ya boat. Because Zeus isn't even 1.5x Odin concretely. He's just "stronger than Odin".
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God of War CRT: Scales of Olympus
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What about Hades vs odin
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Odin oneshots. Hades haxxes. Honestly, even fight.
Regardless, the matches can be discussed when this is added.
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Nah, physical strength too. Like, it's not a one-shot, but still decisive.
Eh, doubt. Hades' hax is far too much for Odin to handle in all honesty.
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Nah, doesn't seem like it, Ares still haxstomps.
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I mean Odin should be faster than Hades.
Btw, can you sum up all the edits you made to your OP?
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Wait, if Kratos can beat his enemy clones, why can't people like Odin and Freya?
They both have plenty of AoE attacks of their own.
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Kratos is Kratos. He's just better at the fighting game than anyone else.
So do the Clones, but stronger, faster, more capable and more bloodlusted.
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KLOL, Zeus literally just "stronger than himself when he might be stronger than Odin". Stop looking at the AD for a sec here and realize that it's a very eh gap all thinks considered. His AE got to a ridiculous gap only one time, that wasn't mid-fight. Let's not stretch it.
Yeah but unless Hades got some passive nonsense I'm forgetting then Odin can still do him in with one Bifrost blast.
Regardless, matches can be covered later.
I will also point out that between the OP and Kratos' comment on "greater gods than Heimdall", the latter will be sub-Brother King level.
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GoW2 Zeus exists ya know.
Hades has his standard passive Darkness/Corruption thing. And he's a lot more versatile with his range. He just needs one whiff of his Energy on Odin and that's game over for him.
That should be obvious at this point.
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Yeah, I remember when Zeus got punched and said "It's Zeus'in time!" and vaporized Kratos -_-
Odin resists that but honestly, not worth getting into right now.
Just putting it out there.
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Worse. Got a pillar dropped on him, then clapped back and pushed Kratos into playing possum.
Energy of Tartarus shenanigans upscaling from LoA upscaling from Runic Magic (Bifrost, Seidr and whatnot)
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Yeah, a non-serious Kratos who was actively trying to spare his life. The rest of the fight, you bully the little shit.
Considering he didn't even bother to ask about the specifics until after that statement, I doubt that's the sole issue here. He just plain looked down on Heimdall lol.
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Heimdall was only doing decent when Kratos didn't had killing intent
He was getting his ass kicked in the last cutscene
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Yeah but ultimately he just didn't stand a chance when Kratos kept lunging more blows into him and then easily knocked him down to the ground leaving him unable to get back up. Kratos straight up didn't want to kill him at first and held back against him, but when Heimdall said no, he basically committed suicide against him.
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I don't think Odin is superior to Ragnarok Kratos. Because he kept his cool throughout the war and never went into rage form. Also I don't understand how Poseidon is below the others
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Anyway... I think Poseidon is "at least" as strong as Jormungandr and Thor. Other than that, Kratos was very calm in the final battle and never went into rage form. That's why it would be a little wrong to call it "Odin > Ragnarok Kratos". Because this includes Kratos in rage form to.
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It doesn't include Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos. Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos outright scales to his GoW3 Endgame Pre-Hope self.
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Odin as an overall package scales above Serious Ragnarok Kratos.
Poseidon isn't hot shit compared to the likes of GoW2 Zeus who is already in one-shot territory within his pantheon, and then grows some more.
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Yes. It looks so good.
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The entire revision negates that whole idea that "Bloodlustes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>".
Also, this is based on what? Odin objectively mid-diffs him and Atreus.
Poseidon gets oneshot by pre-Summit of Sacrifice Zeus while everyone there scales or backscales from End of III Zeus, who's far more powerful than his old state.
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But what I still don't understand is why Ragnarok is so below on this list? In the prophecies, "Odin and Thor" were fighting together to stop Ragnarok. This at least scales Ragnarok above Jormungandr. In short, I disagree with a few things after Odin. Other than that I agree with serious Ragnarok Kratos and bloodlusted Freya are equal. At least we saw that in-game.
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Cause the prophecy was mostly a lie and we see Thor stalemate Jormugandr and Ragnarok alone. And like, the gap between them is small anyway so I dunno what you mean by "so low".
In short. This revision more or less kills that weird Super-Saiyan-esque treatment of Kratos' rage we have right now.
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I agree that Odin is superior to the serious Kratos. But the bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos(Rage form) is superior to the Odin we see in the game. I claim this.
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Nobody denied this.
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Ragnarok appears in the battle of Jormungandr and Thor. But to be honest, Ragnarok didn't care much for Thor, and Thor didn't care much for Ragnarok. In fact, as far as we've seen, Thor didn't even attack Ragnarok. The battle was usually fought between Jormungandr and Thor, and Thor used his attacks against Jormungandra, we have witnessed this in many places.
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You think Ragnarok and Thor just weaved around? I'm legitimately baffled here.
Anyway, speaking generally, so long as people don't try nonsense like, "Kratos just needs to go all out and get bloodlusted to overpower Odin", were gold here.
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And I didn't claim otherwise. Only general speaking like "Ragnarok Kratos" would include it in rage form(bloodlusted) That's what I meant, but I think you misunderstood me.
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Yeah I really don't get the whole "they just weaved" idea here especially considering that Thor is just about done cleaning up here.
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No. I mean the battle is usually between Thor and Jormungandr. So he turned his seriousness to Jormungandr instead of Ragnarok. Just like the war between Baldur and Jormungandr. The reason Baldur didn't scale above Jormungandr was because his main focus was on protecting Kratos and Atreus, not fighting Baldur.
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No. We wouldn't include him like that by default. We keep those mental states of Kratos separate.
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There's plenty of time for Ragnarok to be fought against. This is shown by the near end where we see both of them and Thor is just about done cleaning up.
WDYM Baldur doesn't scale? He downscales from the snake. Just because you took potshots against the guy doesn't mean it's all null-and-void.
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Nothing.
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No he scales to jormungandr. But he doesn't scale above jormungandr.
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He scales below Jormie. That's what... downscaling means.
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