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Ok, so does Lucifer actually have any Immeasurable speed feats or do we just have him there because Incredulity?
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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You can argue him going around the whole creation is immesurable speed.
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I don't remember the feat very well, but if he did go through all of creation then yeah, it's infinite or immeasurable (idk which), but it has to be added to profile
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It would be immesurable because he traversed spaces outside time and space.
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That should be added to his profile then
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It was pretty clearly the hand from Swamp Thing even before it was confirmed by Dan. I don't see the utility in pretending it isn't what it is.
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I think some cosmic tiers of DC need infinite/immeasurable speed. Should the proposals wait for after the split?
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I feel like every time I come in here, it’s just people talking about Tier 1 characters kek
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This qualifies for immeasurable speed.
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we dont know if he tore apart linear time or anything
transcending time and space dont qualify for immeasurable speed anymore
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Tearing space and time isn't Immeasurable, I confirmed with experts. Tearing space and time is just space-time manipulation.
Walking in a realm which views space-time as an illusion is Immeasurable however.
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I know but seeing seeing space and time as illusions is more of immeasurable.
Space-time hax.
I thought you said he viewed them as illusions?
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it all depends on context
In this context, lucifer seeing time as an illusion might be linear time
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Viewing as illusion alone isn't but moving in a realm which views them as illusion is.
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If time is nothing but mere illusions to you, isn't that immeasurable speed?
If then that's immeasurable speed.
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time can mean linear or non linear
linear time is the immeasurable speed stuff like past present future
and non linear time doesn't qualify for immeasurable obv
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Not necessarily, but that does give you Tier 1 AP/Durability
Sure, I just want that to be added to his profile
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Not really, viewing something as an illusion is a qualitative superiority. Qualitatively transcending space-time is Low 1-C at the very least.
that heavily contradicts the qualifications for tier 1 in the tiering system
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ohhhh yeah
i get it now
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I meant time and time is linear, I don't know of non linear time can you clarify more?
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This should be a meme where Batman kicks (X character who he can never ever beat, for example any tier 0)
honestly one of the worst cases of outlier and PIS
Batman is overrated
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No, it’s not. Literally on the next page, Spectre says that he let Batman kick him.
This should be a meme where Batman kicks (X character who he can never ever beat, for example any tier 0)
honestly one of the worst cases of outlier and PIS
Batman is overrated
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I mean, multiversal level being even being moved by a normal person is just ridiculous.
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Not when it let him do it.
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But he screams on the panel....
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Literally the next page:https://media.**********.net/attachments/454788635682668546/1077307392418644059/IMG_5225.jpg
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Yes, that is correct.
Not necessarily. See here:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed#Timeless_Voids
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Well, I do not have the time and energy to restructure our example image, but if somebody can find some other idiotic outlier image that we can use, feel free to mention it here.
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I don’t think we have a page that mentions Batman kicking Spectre anymore. At least, it’s not on the Outliers or Powerscaling Rules pages.
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Oh, it seems like we already removed that image. That is good then.
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Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics
There are several massive problems with using power-scaling for these two prominent franchises that have shared hundreds of different authors over several decades. Said writers naturally tend to have highly differing opinions and interpretations, which is reflected in their stories. Quite often...
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That seems to be talking about realms not superior to time but just doesn't contain it. I am specifically talking about realms qualitatively superior to time.
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I don't agree, everyone seems to think he's overrated to the point he's underrated. I am pretty sure no one actually scales Batman to Spectre in base.
I have an example of Post-Flashpoint Batman's grenades hurting Spectre if you want.
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Well, it would require explicit clarifications in that regard, and preferably approval from several knowledgeable members.
Thank you. It might be useful to save for some later occasion.
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Would this be Reality Warping and Incorporeality for UDM?
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