Garnet vs. Ral Zarek

[Dargoo_Faust]

Things that are extremely unlikely such as Ruby pushing her out of the way and the baseball game canonically can take her by surprise.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Sapphire can only see one certain future

She flat out says that her Future Vision as Garnet is due to Ruby's influence

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I hate when this show does that, they just throw away the logic they had stablished just for the sake of making a stupid joke.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yes, and?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So her being surprised is hard PIS

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If she only sees one future, then she couldn't have seen an unlikely possibility and be surprised when it happens, she should have just seen one single possibility; that line legit makes no sense.

 

[Wokistan]

Dude that insinuates that just about every hit she takes is PIS. THe more reasonable assumption here would simply be "precog isn't as good as you're making it out to be".

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Although it was confirmed that extremely unlikely events really do confuse Garnet's precognition.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok What are you talking about? Sapphire's and Garnet's precog are two completely different things.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, Garnet's precognition sucks both in combat and out of combat?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Weekly Then why would Garnet's precog be able to tell where Ral lands 100% of the time?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It wouldn't.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It wouldnt

Edit: Ninjaed

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Okay, so why does Garnet win in the case Ral planeswalks to another location?

 

[Moritzva]

Yea, seems as if Ral planeswalks away for a moment, realizes his thunder doesn't work, comes back and energy drains/BFRs because his regular attacks ain't doing jack.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because she sees that if she lets him planeswalk she'll lose him so she oneshots him before he planeswalks

 

[Moritzva]

Didn't we debate her precog isn't perfect?

 

[Wokistan]

He starts at range though, and planeswalking is fast.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok And Garnet has ranged attacks and can very easily close the gap and avoid his attacks

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Pixel Its not perfect when it comes to predicting things as improbable as his erratic planeswalking but when it comes to straightforwards abilities like his electrical attacks as well as seeing that he can teleport she'd know to take him out before he does so

 

[Wokistan]

Close the gap of 4km before he thinks for a little while?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Didn't we literally just decide that she doesn't use Future Vision in combat?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Close the gap of 4km before he thinks for a little while?

The gap here is only 200m and he doesnt lead with Planeswalking

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo No? She does use it in combat,

 

[Wokistan]

That still seems to be enough time to get a planeswalk off, as its generally pretty fast. Just gotta focus for a little bit and boom. You're in a different universe.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

She gets hit all of the time, so either she doesn't use it, or it isn't that good.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wok Except he doesnt lead with Planeswalking

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Garnet quite literally needs all of .000002 seconds to cross the gap, 0.000001 seconds to get in range with her ranged attacks

 

[Moritzva]

He would certainly use planeswalking if his strongest abilties fail.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So either Garnet kills him before he planeswalks or he BFRs?

 

[Wokistan]

Speed being equalized equalizes stuff in a relative manner. It's like a few seconds relative to the already MHS planeswalkers.

 

[Antoniofer]

Speed is equalized so don't think we can calculate that, also, Garnet is not that fast in movement speed, not sure about the other guy.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Antonio She's that fast in burst speed, which given her bursts is more than enough to cover 200 meters

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He would certainly use planeswalking if his strongest abilties fail.

He wouldnt know they'd fail as Garnet can very easily dodge his attacks

 

[Wokistan]

If he's not hitting anything he probably would try that, though. Ral doesn't really stick around for prolonged fights, from what I remember of him.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Garnet quite literally needs all of .000002 seconds to cross the gap, 0.000001 seconds to get in range with her ranged attacks

Speed equal doesn't work like that.

Ral's reactions would be equalized; so he'd be reacting to her as if she was running at him at normal speeds.

Planeswalking is thought-based.

 

[Moritzva]

Dargoo took the words out of my mouth. At this range, he'll planeswalk pretty soon, especially with how destructive Garnet is and how his attacks, if he uses them, will barely tickle her. After that, he planeswalks away, collects his bearings, teleports back and BFRs or Energy Drains, and if that doesn't work, retreat and try again.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, Ral wins?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

If ya'll would start voting we'd know for sure.

 

[Moritzva]

I believe so. 200 meters is a lot more than 20, so he'll have just that tiniest bit of time longer to planeswalk away.

I vote Ral, very high diff.