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Both at 10-c.
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State your reasons or your vote won't be counted.Thad458 said:Tree.
Kinda does if it is done correctly. Frisk would likely SAVE multiple times during the fight. There is no proof that checkpoints can cure poison because the only time something similar happened, it either killed them or it disappeared in battle (Soul Poison/Karma during Sans' fight). Eventually they will reach a point of when they hit SAVE to close to their death and subbcum to the poison, resurrect just as poisoned and die again, and the get stuck in an eternal loop.Kaltias said:This doesn't prevent Frisk from resurrecting though
This is a silly arguement since we're talking about rewinding time here after death and there's no reasoning to believe poison for some reason would stick around post rewind since this isn't physical time travel in a time machine.TheNeolancer said:Kinda does if it is done correctly. Frisk would likely SAVE multiple times during the fight. There is no proof that checkpoints can cure poison because the only time something similar happened, it either killed them or it disappeared in battle (Soul Poison/Karma during Sans' fight). Eventually they will reach a point of when they hit SAVE to close to their death and subbcum to the poison, resurrect just as poisoned and die again, and the get stuck in an eternal loop.Kaltias said:This doesn't prevent Frisk from resurrecting though
What I'm saying is that due to game mechanics not being present in the battle, Frisk can freely abuse it during battle (which they will).A Sword Dancer said:This is a silly arguement since we're talking about rewinding time here after death and there's no reasoning to believe poison for some reason would stick around post rewind since this isn't physical time travel in a time machine.TheNeolancer said:[What I said]Kaltias said:[What she said]
Supposing we entertain this line of reasoning, Chara eats a far far more potent poisen like effect from sans KR in the genocide route and doesn'y suffer any after effects when rewinding. The DoT effect never kills him on its own due to game mechanics, but it is applied on every attack and there will be a final attack that kills chara at 1 hp, along with a reapplication of the KR. If DoT effects carried over then the KR would carry over, but it doesnt.
I'm not.Kaltias said:I'm positive that if you can survive your soul being shattered via SAVE and LOAD, you can survive a mildly powerful poison too
You are completely wrong, tho. Tree's poison can kill nonexistent acausal abstract non corporeal conceptual beings.Kaltias said:I'm positive that if you can survive your soul being shattered via SAVE and LOAD, you can survive a mildly powerful poison too
Frisk will have gained knowledge of the tree from the encounter, and either look for another way to damage it without getting poisoned or walk away since there's nothing here forcing these two to fight. The best case scenario for the tree is a draw, worst case is frisk does figure out a way to protect himself from getting poisoned as he cuts the tree down.Saikou The Lewd King said:Frisk's only ressurection in 10-C is via SAVE & LOAD
And the problem is that by doing that, you'll also reset damage done to the tree.
The tree can't outlive him in the duration of a fight. It's not like frisk ages when loading.The real cal howard said:Frisk doesn't have infinite DETERMINATION. Eventually, he'll give up. Or the tree outlives him.
There's nothing preventing frisk from getting an axe or any other cutting/chopping tool and then cutting the tree down, and even in his weakest form he's been shown to heal to full off of candy and other random monster food he keeps with him. He could easily munch on some candy while chopping down the tree to tank the 'damage'.Saikou The Lewd King said:Frisk's only weapons at 10-C are a stick of wood. They're still a kid, I really doubt they'd have enough knowledge to find a way to cut so many trees before dying/being crippled.
And "walking away" is self BFR, so a win for the tree.