Undertale vs Overlord (Frisk vs Aura)

[EnderLord8]

Neutral Frisk vs Aura

Frisk Equipaments: Cell Phone, Temy Armor, Worn Dagger, Sea Tea and many hp restore items

Aura Equipaments: All your standard equipment

Frisk AP: 8-A (329.95 Tons), higher with your dagger

Aura AP: Low 7-C (1.47 Kilotons), In reality it should be lower than that...

AP diference: 4.45x

Speed Equal

Frisk LS: Peak Human

Aura LS: Class 25

Frisk, the Human:
Aura, the Dark Elf: 6 (@XxZetsuxX, @DaReaperMan, @Epiccheev, @Dragonite007, @noninho, @RinneItachi )
Inconclusive: 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Frisk via SI + Sleep manip + Infinite retries which means adapting + Amps with items

Aura has no answer to this

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Also you need to equalize speed, Frisk has immeasurable speed with Peak determination

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Or change it to Frisk (Immense Determination) rather than peak

 

[EnderLord8]

Also you need to equalize speed, Frisk has immeasurable speed with Peak determination

Done

 

[EnderLord8]

Frisk via SI + Sleep manip + Infinite retries which means adapting + Amps with items

Aura has no answer to this

What if I gave Aura prior knowledge?

 

[Kellex]

What does Aura lead with in character? From what I can see on her profile, she has multiple abilities that could just end the fight from the start like petrifying with just a gaze.

 

[EnderLord8]

What does Aura lead with in character? From what I can see on her profile, she has multiple abilities that could just end the fight from the start like petrifying with just a gaze.

I remember that in one battle she used her whip to launch attacks and while in another she ordered her animals to kill some humans, in addition to the fight between her and shalltea.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

What if I gave Aura prior knowledge?

No need, The effects aren't instant except for the amps

 

[DaReaperMan]

Give Aura prior knowledge, or don't, I think she wins via hax after awhile, specifically, the multitude amount of shit she has just by breathing with a skill active, none of which Frisk can deal with cause they don't kill.

And Aura views humanity in nothing but contempt(you could compare them to rocks in her eyes), and unlike Undyne(someone else Frisk couldn't spare and whatnot) Aura isn't about to have her life saved by frisk to make sparing her an option.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Give Aura prior knowledge, or don't, I think she wins via hax after awhile, specifically, the multitude amount of shit she has just by breathing with a skill active, none of which Frisk can deal with cause they don't kill.

And Aura views humanity in nothing but contempt(you could compare them to rocks in her eyes), and unlike Undyne(someone else Frisk couldn't spare and whatnot) Aura isn't about to have her life saved by frisk to make sparing her an option.

That sleep hax though, She has no answer, Frisk just needs like 2-4 turns i think (I might be wrong)

 

[DaReaperMan]

That sleep hax though, She has no answer, Frisk just needs like 2-4 turns i think (I might be wrong)

Aura is pretty aware of what would be seen as a status effect, so she'd probably immediately go for her hax options if she felt herself getting sleepy.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Aura is pretty aware of what would be seen as a status effect, so she'd probably immediately go for her hax options if she felt herself getting sleepy.

Frisk has amps to boost her speed she can easily evade attacks

As for her breathing skill, How does that work? Is that mainly mind manip or empathic ;-;?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Nvm

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Frisk has immense willpower and can move from being paralyzed, Aura making Frisk feel fear might not work

 

[XxZetsuxX]

And if Frisk is about to get petrified what stops her from resetting quick? Unless it's instant

 

[DaReaperMan]

Frisk has immense willpower and can move from being paralyzed, Aura making Frisk feel fear might not work

You'd need proof of Frisk dealing with fear via sheer Willpower. Or being made to feel other extreme emotions

And if Frisk is about to get petrified what stops her from resetting quick? Unless it's instant

It is instant.

Frisk has amps to boost her speed she can easily evade attacks

Aura's breath has massive AoE lol

 

[Kellex]

Frisk has immense willpower and can move from being paralyzed, Aura making Frisk feel fear might not work

That's with Peak Determination, not Immense Determination so they'll be affected

 

[DaReaperMan]

Honestly though, Aura was probably the best option here, Sebas would fall to the SI, Cocytus is too Unga Bunga to hax, Albedo would never fall to SI but may get sleep haxed, Shalltear is the same as Albedo and can't sleep for being Undead...

And Demiurge just waves his hand and obliterates Frisk's mind and soul, the former of which needs proof of being able to time rewind from. Or orders Frisk to go down. Or insert other hax here

Ainz kind of just either talks to Frisk and uno reverse SI's them or despair auras them in some way

 

[XxZetsuxX]

That's with Peak Determination, not Immense Determination so they'll be affected

It's still DT, The OP just equalized speed

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's still DT, The OP just equalized speed

You don't understand, Paralysis resistance is specifically in peak DT key lol

 

[XxZetsuxX]

You don't understand, Paralysis resistance is specifically in peak DT key lol

I understand perfectly, What i meant is the OP still has Peak DT frisk, I forgot to put Peak before DT in my previous comment

Frisk (Peak Determination) vs Aura

 

[XxZetsuxX]

You'd need proof of Frisk dealing with fear via sheer Willpower. Or being made to feel other extreme emotions

I mean, They can break out of a 2-B paralysis inducement while 8-A, I don't see how that wouldn't work

And survive with 0.00000000000001 Hp etc etc through sheer willpower

I believe this is enough, No?

It is instant.

Does she start with that?

Aura's breath has massive AoE lol

Sea tea makes them go up a tier in speed, Hypersonic+ speed is enough to make her outran the explosion

 

[XxZetsuxX]

True reset is also a wincon i think?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Frisk has clear mind which negates status inducement

 

[DaReaperMan]

I mean, They can break out of a 2-B paralysis inducement while 8-A, I don't see how that wouldn't work

And survive with 0.00000000000001 Hp etc etc through sheer willpower

I believe this is enough, No?

No. You need actual FEATS of breaking out of fear like that.

Does she start with that?

No.

Sea tea makes them go up a tier in speed, Hypersonic+ speed is enough to make her outran the explosion

Ah yes, the invisible air being breathed at Frisk, which haxes them to hell and back because they don't have prior knowledge.

True reset is also a wincon i think?

uh, no, that's an automatic self-BFR from Frisk lol

Frisk has clear mind which negates status inducement

Aura's fear Manipulation scares ******* half to death, Frisk wouldn't be able to use Clear Mind.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

No. You need actual FEATS of breaking out of fear like that.

Then gg, Frisk doesn't have it (To my knowledge)

No.

Ok

Ah yes, the invisible air being breathed at Frisk, which haxes them to hell and back because they don't have prior knowledge.

Didn't know it was invisible ;-;

uh, no, that's an automatic self-BFR from Frisk lol

Ah, That's a useless ability then

Aura's fear Manipulation scares ******* half to death, Frisk wouldn't be able to use Clear Mind.

Why? Fear doesn't mean it paralyzes, Just makes you scared

 

[DaReaperMan]

Then gg, Frisk doesn't have it (To my knowledge)

Yeah, not a stomp, but I think Aura wins

Didn't know it was invisible ;-;

yeah, the anime puts color on it so people know WTF was happening

Ah, That's a useless ability then

Yep!

Why? Fear doesn't mean it paralyzes, Just makes you scared

The one Aura fear'd couldn't at all think straight, and was immediately incapped by Aura's follow-up switch of emotion to complete servitude via emotion control

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Yeah, not a stomp, but I think Aura wins

yeah, the anime puts color on it so people know WTF was happening

Yep!

The one Aura fear'd couldn't at all think straight, and was immediately incapped by Aura's follow-up switch of emotion to complete servitude via emotion control

Then yeah, I vote Aura

 

[EnderLord8]

This topic is unexpectedly popular, I thought it would fall into oblivion...

Well DaReaper gave the impression that Aura kind of steps, would it change a lot if I gave Frisk prior knowledge? (It would be really cool if Frisk and Aura's AP were more similar, but anyway...)

If this turns out to be a stomp, would anyone have any suggestions to make the match more balanced?

 

[EnderLord8]

I'm going to start counting votes tomorrow, for today I'm going to let the match soak a little...

 

[DaReaperMan]

This topic is unexpectedly popular, I thought it would fall into oblivion...

Well DaReaper gave the impression that Aura kind of steps, would it change a lot if I gave Frisk prior knowledge? (It would be really cool if Frisk and Aura's AP were more similar, but anyway...)

If this turns out to be a stomp, would anyone have any suggestions to make the match more balanced?

Nah, I don't think either needs prior knowledge to execute their wincons, this isn't stompy at all, it's just that Aura is more likely to execute what she needs to win faster

 

[EnderLord8]

So let's move on to the questions and the vote count...
Why is true resent an auto BFR?
Does Aura petrification have any operating requirements? Is it done by magic or a special item? Does it have a duration? Does it kill the opponent or just leave them in a paralyzed state? Is it able to stop the target's thoughts too?
Is Aura's breath attack a spell or item effect? Is there any loading time? What exact effect would breathing have on Frisk?
It's kind of funny that theoretically Frisk should be able to resist the aura of fear, since that's one of the most basic things that someone with supernatural willpower should be able to do, especially since Frisk's willpower is capable of literally go back in time, but anyway... Votes counted...

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why is true resent an auto BFR?

Frisk is COMPLETELY departing the arena and likely can't be back in a week.

Does Aura petrification have any operating requirements? Is it done by magic or a special item? Does it have a duration? Does it kill the opponent or just leave them in a paralyzed state? Is it able to stop the target's thoughts too?

Stopping thoughts and being turned to stone, debatably Lethal, but Aura has to summon a Basilisk for it anyway and she's more likely to use her breath

Is Aura's breath attack a spell or item effect? Is there any loading time? What exact effect would breathing have on Frisk?

It's a skill, so vaguely Supernatural in it's start-up, but the effect is all natural in Aura's case.

It's kind of funny that theoretically Frisk should be able to resist the aura of fear, since that's one of the most basic things that someone with supernatural willpower should be able to do, especially since Frisk's willpower is capable of literally go back in time

yeah funny, that is the most common Supernatural Willpower thing is the one Frisk doesn't have lol

but anyway... Votes counted...

Good

 

[EnderLord8]

yeah funny, that is the most common Supernatural Willpower thing is the one Frisk doesn't have lol

That's why when I do a character fusion tournament, I'm going to fuse Garou and Frisk, a deadly combination...

 

[DaReaperMan]

That's why when I do a character fusion tournament, I'm going to fuse Garou and Frisk, a deadly combination...

I mean I know combinations to stomp that one 1000x over lol

 

[EnderLord8]

I mean I know combinations to stomp that one 1000x over lol

Combinations are appealing, what would be the combination you thought of to end this exactly?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Combinations are appealing, what would be the combination you thought of to end this exactly?

Without extreme smurfery...

Arthas and Ainz

A **** ton of resistances, borderline immunity to Garou's Radiation, and an in-character that incaps that combo the instant the fight starts

 

[EnderLord8]

Without extreme smurfery...

Arthas and Ainz

A **** ton of resistances, borderline immunity to Garou's Radiation, and an in-character that incaps that combo the instant the fight starts

this boi?

 

[DaReaperMan]

this boi?

Thats one of em yeah

Plenty of resistances, and the capability to put down easily put the combo down at will

If you really wanted something fucky, anything involving Archaon would god-stomp