Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

ouch lol. kinda reminds me of the tarmiel ocean vs water dragon god ocean calc...

Cope

Naming Fallacy be like that

 

[speedster352]

Still don't know how to go about that diamond tower diane made for lifting strength

Just find the length and with and use the mass off diamonds simple

 

[speedster352]

Cope

Naming Fallacy be like that

Speaking of which have you seen any impressive feats from NNT that can be calced?
Edit rabbit added a few new abilities in the nnt crt 2 could you give some input?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Speaking of which have you seen any impressive feats from NNT that can be calced?

No, the verse peaks at 6-B IMO

 

[Majinere566]

Hopefully some good feats in 4kota but knowing nakaba he gonna do something stupid at the end

 

[Zezu1995]

FKOA might even before it even starts due to nabaka being odd again... i wanna ignore it but damn its hard

 

[speedster352]

FKOA might even before it even starts due to nabaka being odd again... i wanna ignore it but damn its hard

Is this still about the whole pedo thing?

 

[Zezu1995]

Is this still about the whole pedo thing?

yep he got till tuesday to fix this ... and a random age isnt fixing it nor is the fairy excuse

 

[speedster352]

No, the verse peaks at 6-B IMO

I meant LS and other stuff

 

[speedster352]

I believe the Attack Reflection is either a copy paste mistake from Chandler's to Cusack's profile or he has Full Counter variation of his own

So it should be fixed then or a scan should be provided

 

[speedster352]

(His aura terrified the souls within Excalibur),

Shouldn’t this be limited soul manipulation since it was affecting the countless souls in Excalibur?

 

[speedster352]

I found the guide You can buy it on Amazon JP

Anyone seen this?

 

[VsReferee]

What about Chandler's night fall feat? This feat showed:

• Night
• Stars
• Moon
• Meteors

I was thinking about this. There were possibilities I could think of:

1. He rotated the Earth
2. Portal ability (having a portal at the other side of the earth)
3. Just blocking the sun light and the moon was already close to the sun (solar eclipse)
4. Created a dimension
5. Reality warping

My answers to these were:

1. This can't be possible because only a certain area in Britannia was dark. Other places had sun light (rotating the earth at such speed was calced planetary by Sir.Twigo on Insta)
2. Not logically, He would have visited the other side of the planet to place a portal there or something. Also the nightfall happened gradually
3. Not the case. Solar eclipse would have happened anyway before, after or during the nightfall. This would mean that whole Britannia was dark. Also, blocking the sunlight isn't enough. Melascula covered Escanor with her magic (Cocoon of darkness), there was no sunlight and Escanor's magic still worked.
4. Not sure, could be possible. Escanor's sunshine didn't work when Chandler uses this feat.
5. Could be possible, he even called forth meteors

Since 4 and 5 are the most logical possibilities (and if there are literally no other than we can think of) should Chandler not be at least moon level?
He should have created the moon if 4 or 5 were the case.

This is how I think of his feat.

What do you guys think? Maybe someone can explain what Chandler actually did?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

What about Chandler's night fall feat? This feat showed:

• Night
• Stars
• Moon
• Meteors

I was thinking about this. There were possibilities I could think of:

1. He rotated the Earth
2. Portal ability (having a portal at the other side of the earth)
3. Just blocking the sun light and the moon was already close to the sun (solar eclipse)
4. Created a dimension
5. Reality warping

My answers to these were:

1. This can't be possible because only a certain area in Britannia was dark. Other places had sun light (rotating the earth at such speed was calced planetary by Sir.Twigo on Insta)
2. Not logically, He would have visited the other side of the planet to place a portal there or something. Also the nightfall happened gradually
3. Not the case. Solar eclipse would have happened anyway before, after or during the nightfall. This would mean that whole Britannia was dark. Also, blocking the sunlight isn't enough. Melascula covered Escanor with her magic (Cocoon of darkness), there was no sunlight and Escanor's magic still worked.
4. Not sure, could be possible. Escanor's sunshine didn't work when Chandler uses this feat.
5. Could be possible, he even called forth meteors

Since 4 and 5 are the most logical possibilities (and if there are literally no other than we can think of) should Chandler not be at least moon level?
He should have created the moon if 4 or 5 were the case.

This is how I think of his feat.

What do you guys think? Maybe someone can explain what Chandler actually did?

I think you’re delusional if you think Chandler is Moon level…

Dude created a veil of darkness, that’s all

 

[VsReferee]

I think you’re delusional if you think Chandler is Moon level…

Dude created a veil of darkness, that’s all

Then how do you explain the moon, stars, meteors and Escanor's sunshine not working? Blocking sunlight isn't enough (this can be proved with Melascula and Vampire Izraf).

 

[speedster352]

Read this

Anyone see this?

 

[Majinere566]

When the **** was that posted

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Then how do you explain the moon, stars, meteors and Escanor's sunshine not working? Blocking sunlight isn't enough (this can be proved with Melascula and Vampire Izraf).

It’s just a bubble of darkness that mimics nighttime and therefore tricks Sunshine

Assuming Chandler created entire stars and a moon just to make it nighttime is dumb, especially when Mael in the sky can just clear the sky and it disappears

 

[VsReferee]

It’s just a bubble of darkness that mimics nighttime and therefore tricks Sunshine

Assuming Chandler created entire stars and a moon just to make it nighttime is dumb, especially when Mael in the sky can just clear the sky and it disappears

Ah yes you are right XD.

 

[Majinere566]

The Method for Original Demon creating a storm is cape right?

 

[VsReferee]

Anyone care to input or no?

I don't think so. Iirc, Cath said he was going to destroy everything after consuming Arthur

 

[Majinere566]

I don't think so. Iirc, Cath said he was going to destroy everything after consuming Arthur

What do you mean? What I'm trying to say there is that Cath should get a Planet level range via being stated to alter the world itself

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

What do you mean? What I'm trying to say there is that Cath should get a Planet level range via being stated to alter the world itself

No, just no man, having the power to alter the world doesn’t mean 5-B, don’t make me bring up Whitebeard again

 

[speedster352]

What do you mean? What I'm trying to say there is that Cath should get a Planet level range via being stated to alter the world itself

We need a new key for zeldris and one for full power cath

 

[Majinere566]

No, just no man, having the power to alter the world doesn’t mean 5-B, don’t make me bring up Whitebeard again

I'm not saying he should be 5-B I explicitly say the word range

World should be commonly referred to as Society as a whole or the Planet, anything else would need more evidence as so

 

[Majinere566]

We need a new key for zeldris and one for full power cath

Full Power cath is basically just complete chaos which he never attained and is with Arthur

 

[speedster352]

Full Power cath is basically just complete chaos which he never attained and is with Arthur

What about a new key for cursed by the light Zeldris?

 

[Majinere566]

What about a new key for cursed by the light Zeldris?

I don't know

 

[speedster352]

I don't know

We should add it all we say is that he lost power nullification

 

[Majinere566]

We should add it all we say is that he lost power nullification

And has that ominous bind thing

 

[speedster352]

And has that ominous bind thing

Exactly and he is much stronger and faster than his holy war counter part since he fought the sd with help from Meliodas

 

[VsReferee]

Exactly and he is much stronger and faster than his holy war counter part since he fought the sd with help from Meliodas

Where did that power up come from tho? I know he got power from the DK but how did he get even stronger that he could defeat the SD with Mel?

 

[Majinere566]

Where did that power up come from tho? I know he got power from the DK but how did he get even stronger that he could defeat the SD with Mel?

We don't know where or how

All we do know is what he did, and his feats in the movie put him way above what feats he used to be displaying

 

[speedster352]

We don't know where or how

All we do know is what he did, and his feats in the movie put him way above what feats he used to be displaying

I think holy wartime zeldris can scale higher so maybe possibly country-level rating should be fine for holy war time zeldris

 

[Zezu1995]

heres the chandler issue demon.. even if it was just darkness... other demons should scale to that .. its a demonic trait so why did melca darkness not work even after they went INSIDE mels darkness ball which destroys all magic outside. sunshine still worked... so chandlers is doing something different

 

[speedster352]

heres the chandler issue demon.. even if it was just darkness... other demons should scale to that .. its a demonic trait so why did melca darkness not work even after they went INSIDE mels darkness ball which destroys all magic outside. sunshine still worked... so chandlers is doing something different

And high ranking demons should get death manipulation via darkness for scaling above grey demon

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

heres the chandler issue demon.. even if it was just darkness... other demons should scale to that .. its a demonic trait so why did melca darkness not work even after they went INSIDE mels darkness ball which destroys all magic outside. sunshine still worked... so chandlers is doing something different

Different types of darknesses

Chandlers is specifically meant to mimic nighttime wjole Melascula’s didn’t

 

[Zezu1995]

and what about meliodas? his darkness is better and stronger than the others and even if it mimics night time thats even more proof of a tier change lol... someone able to mimic night time (possibly) over the country is a feat. Blocking out the sun via night time mimic is a feat . Tbh i might be explaining this horribly lol

 

[VsReferee]

What about the mimic itself? Is it just an illusion but a massive one? Also, he called the meteors "fragmented star children". Those things weren't illusions

 

[Zezu1995]

What about the mimic itself? Is it just an illusion but a massive one? Also, he called the meteors "fragmented star children". Those things weren't illusions

bruh i was literally typing something like this... mimic/fake is nice but hes mimicing night time completely so that alone is a feat.