Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[ByAsura]

The tree top wasn't fragmented, though.

If you go by the Gaiden version, their battle deals damage to an already burned down tree, but you can see it's just burned down for the most part. Impressive as even a watered down version may be, this happened over the course of a fight.

In 7 Days, you can see the top is partially intact and mostly burned down (which is just prior damage).

This feat from the Red Demon (Gaiden version) might be somewhat worth it, but you'd need to fragment 20 million cubic metres of steel just to almost break 1 megaton.

 

[Majinere566]

Is there anyway to calculate burning of wood?

 

[ByAsura]

Wood ignites at a certain temperature, so you can use heat capacity.

Given that it's stronger than steel, doesn't burn conventionally and moss in the forest is basically immune to heat/fire, I think you can get some high results.

 

[Majinere566]

Wood ignites at a certain temperature, so you can use heat capacity.

Alright but there's one more thing, since the top part is comprised of wood and leaves, do I add both their Densities or just use the wood's Density?

Given that it's stronger than steel, doesn't burn conventionally and moss in the forest is basically immune to heat/fire, I think you can get some high results.

Alright I'll treat it as 2 ends

- Normal end using heat capacity of wood
-Using steel end

But I'm not familiar with the steel end

 

[ByAsura]

If you can calculate both, use both.

Look up the heat capacity. Supposedly it does ignite at certain temperatures (I'm pretty sure referring to something else, like colour, though).

 

[Majinere566]

I'll do that when I'm free

I have a feeling this feat is gonna be something Massive like High 6-C or low 6-b

Then it's gonna be ruled out as an outlier


Also an unrelated question... If a feat happens over time but you have a quantified Timeframe... Can you divide the result of the feat by the time?

 

[ByAsura]

IIRC, it takes melting something like a million tonnes of steel to get 1 megaton.

Edit: 200 kilotons.

I'm not sure about that. Maybe just use the initial shots.

 

[speedster352]

IIRC, it takes melting something like a million tonnes of steel to get 1 megaton.

Edit: 200 kilotons.

I'm not sure about that. Maybe just use the initial shots.

What's up?

 

[Majinere566]

So I got the trunk at 6.12km

And the Canopy Length and Height at insane numbers

It feels like something is wrong

 

[ByAsura]

I'll look into it as well.

 

[ByAsura]

On second thought, I don't think it's worth it.

It's a spark in the Gaiden, and sort of just a tributary in the 7 Days version.

 

[Majinere566]

Wait what? I don't get it what you linked and what we're talking about is different... or maybe I'm missing a point

 

[Aether2734]

I wonder, why is Meliodas trillion dark able to defeat and bypass demon king the ruler, as we agreed before that the weakness of the ruler ability is powernull, previously we also saw that darkness meliodas can also destroy magic. So can we assume that trillion dark meliodas is power null and resistance negation? Maybe this can also explain why Dark Meliodas power was able to bypass Supreme Deity to defeat her

 

[ByAsura]

Wait what? I don't get it what you linked and what we're talking about is different... or maybe I'm missing a point

I'm saying the burning of the Sacred Tree isn't worth calculating because it was extremely gradual.

 

[speedster352]

I wonder, why is Meliodas trillion dark able to defeat and bypass demon king the ruler, as we agreed before that the weakness of the ruler ability is powernull, previously we also saw that darkness meliodas can also destroy magic. So can we assume that trillion dark meliodas is power null and resistance negation? Maybe this can also explain why Dark Meliodas power was able to bypass Supreme Deity to defeat him

That is possible but it could be because darkness is physical and natural since the ten commandments used it with 0 magic.

 

[speedster352]

I'm saying the burning of the Sacred Tree isn't worth calculating.

Why not?

 

[ByAsura]

I wonder, why is Meliodas trillion dark able to defeat and bypass demon king the ruler, as we agreed before that the weakness of the ruler ability is powernull, previously we also saw that darkness meliodas can also destroy magic. So can we assume that trillion dark meliodas is power null and resistance negation? Maybe this can also explain why Dark Meliodas power was able to bypass Supreme Deity to defeat her

Didn't Gowther disable the Ruler?

Why not?

It happened very gradually.

 

[Aether2734]

That is possible but it could be because darkness is physical and natural since the ten commandments used it with 0 magic.

Just like zezu explain earlier, demon darkness is not magic but can be use as or combined with magic

 

[Majinere566]

I'm saying the burning of the Sacred Tree isn't worth calculating because it was extremely gradual.

Yeah but what you linked was the red demon destroying the forest

The feat itself seems to be in a very short timeframe but I'll have to recheck later

 

[Aether2734]

Didn't Gowther disable the Ruler?

I mean, when meliodas fight demon king in purgatory

 

[ByAsura]

If you look at the scan, the forest destruction causes one of the branches of the Sacred Tree to ignite.

I mean, ketika meliodas fight demon king in purgatory

That's a mental realm where power and abilities have no bearing.

 

[thetechmaster36]

I wonder, why is Meliodas trillion dark able to defeat and bypass demon king the ruler, as we agreed before that the weakness of the ruler ability is powernull, previously we also saw that darkness meliodas can also destroy magic.

I think Trillion Dark is highly condensed balls of Darkness which razorbladed the Demon King and damaged his body heavily, so it might not be magical, but physical.

 

[Majinere566]

If you look at the scan, the forest destruction causes one of the branches of the Sacred Tree to ignite.

That's a mental realm where power and abilities have no bearing.

That looked like one of the Tree's in the forest which would make sense since the blasts are far from the Tree... maybe I could be mistakened

 

[speedster352]

That looked like one of the Tree's in the forest which would make sense since the blasts are far from the Tree... maybe I could be mistakened

Didn't ban and the red demon destoy the scared tree with their clash?

 

[Majinere566]

Didn't ban and the red demon destoy the scared tree with their clash?

Yeah I think so, the top part most notably

 

[ByAsura]

For the sake of argument, we'll assume it is.

There's flames here, more here and here. So we can safely say it's gradual.

Didn't ban and the red demon destoy the scared tree with their clash?

No. It's scorched.

 

[speedster352]

Yeah I think so, the top part most notably

Isn't that a feat since the sacred tree is even harder than steel so you can use that. Also also try to find more feats from NNT to calc.

 

[Majinere566]

I calced the PE of the Tree and got like High 6-C I don't know what that could do to be honest

 

[Majinere566]

There's flames here, more here and here. So we can safely say it's gradual.

Alright that makes sense now

 

[Majinere566]

Is the 63 megatons calc accepted?

 

[ByAsura]

It's in calc evaluations. I'm waiting for it to get accepted.

 

[speedster352]

Is the 63 megatons calc accepted?

Is that city level?

 

[ByAsura]

City level+.

 

[speedster352]

It's in calc evaluations. I'm waiting for it to get accepted.

Did you show it to the cgm?

 

[speedster352]

City level+.

Whould that buff the bos sins? Whos scales?

 

[Majinere566]

Also also try to find more feats from NNT to calc.

I've tried, I think we've gone through almost every feat... and some of them aren't really worth it

However I forgot to calc a beginning of series Meliodas feat yesterday

 

[Aether2734]

That a mental realm where power and abilities have no bearing.

I don't get it, ban still can use his snatch or bestow to demon king and demon king passively inversion to himself.

I think Trillion Dark is highly condensed balls of Darkness which razorbladed the Demon King and damaged his body heavily, so it might not be magical, but physical.

So your point is trillion dark not magical but physical darkness?
I don't think so because it said meliodas magic is greatly increased when he use it

 

[Majinere566]

Whould that buff the bos sins? Whos scales?

Almost every relevant character in season 1

 

[Rabbit2002]

I wonder, why is Meliodas trillion dark able to defeat and bypass demon king the ruler, as we agreed before that the weakness of the ruler ability is powernull, previously we also saw that darkness meliodas can also destroy magic. So can we assume that trillion dark meliodas is power null and resistance negation? Maybe this can also explain why Dark Meliodas power was able to bypass Supreme Deity to defeat her

Actually, even Zel can use ON on DK in Spiritual/Soul World

 

[Majinere566]

Never mind I already did it before

Here's the rough calc

Height Of Meliodas: 1.52m

Distance between Lightning and and Meliodas : 0.51m

Speed of Lightning: 440,000m/s

Timeframe: 0.51/440,000=
0.00000115909 seconds

Distance Meliodas covered: 3.16m

Speed: 3.16/0.00000115909= 2,726,276.64806m/s or Mach 7,948