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Literally meHate Nakaba bruh
Anyway i was thinking about above
Though Makai and the demons were created « soon » after the birth of the deitiesBecause the calculation you're proposing would use the creation of Ludoshel to the Holy War.
That doesn't work if the deities are actually older than Ludoshel to an unknown extent.
They should have the same âgeAnyway i was thinking about above
Speaking of that makai translate novel opening, shouldn't both deity at low ball should be also around both ludociel and original demon?
Soon means « after a short time » so Yeah the dimension was created in a really short timeframeSince both are stated as primordial. It's say soon after their birth, deity created their own realm and folks, "soon" Word shouldn't be use for long term as far i know,
They were not born for this though, they started the war after Chaos created the giants and humans and after they sealed him cause He became racistbeside meliodas state if both deity born as a balancing world with mission to give an eternal war, so they shouldn't stay silent in long term before they created their own people.
Here take a lookIs it speifically stated that the Demons were created soon after? Because that contradicts Goddesses being much older than Ludo.
So what Would the timeframe be ?I guess 6,000 years works, then.
Heh? For the creation of the dimension ? But the deities had created them just before creating the members of their clans.~6,000 years.
The DK was created just before the separation of worlds a 6000 years timeframe Is way too big idek if the result Would be good.I thought you guys were trying to use that a low-balled timeframe since it's soon, and these characters only came soon after to a vague extent. What other timeframe could you even draw from this when you involve the Holy War?
Why would that, in any capacity, be a year? 6,000 only comes from the ages of the Demons that were born after the realms existed, so there is literally no exact comparison that can be made because we don't really have another reference for 'soon'.
They do born with mission of eternal holy wars, it's come from meliodas itself in cbl state after he have seen the entire demo king mind memoryThey were not born for this though, they started the war after Chaos created the giants and humans and after they sealed him cause He became racist
Wait is there any goddeses older than ludociel?Is it speifically stated that the Demons were created soon after? Because that contradicts Goddesses being much older than Ludo.
start cooking the calcWait is there any goddeses older than ludociel?
Ok it still Isn’t a good timeframe at allThe result would be an order of magnitude higher than DK's physical AP even if we used Purgatory DK's lifetime.
Okay let’s Go With 6k but it’s a gigantic lowballLudoshel's birth to the current story is 9,000 years, and subtracting 3,000 is what gets the 6,000 figure.
The databook ages are all pre-seal, hence why Jemma is 1500 rather than over 3,000 and it lists all the pre-seal demon ages from previous databooks.
We can keep 4-C imo it’s betteri mean, we can just keep high 4-c.
either way, this feat will be regulated to a creation feat rather than physical strength.
Why not? Their magic can be scale to physically since demon king literally absorb massive source magic in the lake to gained his peak form and strength.either way, this feat will be regulated to a creation feat rather than physical strength.
Which calc?start cooking the calc
Yeah their creations are made through a magic energy output it should scale to their APWhy not? Their magic can be scale to physically since demon king literally absorb massive source magic in the lake to gained his peak form and strength.
But yes keep in mind, i wouldn't argue this anymore, too much hypothically that oftenly leading to controversy unless we have other proof.
Waiting for arthur creation feats seem best option for now, cause it's have actual timeframe we can confirm not really vague like those two.
Which one is thisNot stated, and we don't even use that kind of logic on other verses.
What Would they use ?Not stated,
The creation page states that if a character uses a similar method to create things and to harm people it’s possible to scale creation feats to APand we don't even use that kind of logic on other verses.
I won’t it’s way too long and controversial they will have heart attacks by seeing a 4-C NNT CRTMake another CRT if you really believe this.
Who the **** knows? We don't see it. Plus, while magic often does scale to physicals, there are forms of magic that don't.What Would they use ?
Not the point.The creation page states that if a character uses a similar method to create things and to harm people it’s possible to scale creation feats to AP
Darkness can make constructs, but we see nothing about it making entire realities that are made of different materials.The only energy type they have Is magic which is the same thing they use to Both create things (like elements darkness etc…) and attack their opps their creation Is connected to their other abilities
Kay, then there'll be no change in the first place, so I'm not going to bother with this.I won’t it’s way too long and controversial they will have heart attacks by seeing a 4-C NNT CRT
Is there another form of energy that they could use? If not why should we assume it’s not through their main output ofWho the **** knows? We don't see it. Plus, while magic often does scale to physicals, there are forms of magic that don't.
DK Ruler does not output energy.DK's Ruler is actually a very good example of this because it would've successfully nullified the final combo, whereas he couldn't.
It’s an argument we could makeNot the point.
Magic can be used to create entire dimensions, Cath’s dimension, Neo Camelot probably Makai and Tenkai, fairy world, possibly the world beyondDarkness can make constructs, but we see nothing about it making entire realities that are made of different materials.
The graces can be used to create entire realities through magicThough, admittedly SD's graces might have something similar to how the Greeks saw the classical elements.
Yeah we’ll see this laterKay, then there'll be no change in the first place, so I'm not going to bother with this.
But it’s just via creation though and with the 6000 years what would the result be?The result would be an order of magnitude higher than DK's physical AP even if we used Purgatory DK's lifetime.
We shouldn't assume anything. That's the point.Is there another form of energy that they could use? If not why should we assume it’s not through their main output of
It'd still be limited to DK's AP by this kind of logic. But we know it's not.DK Ruler does not output energy.
Technically, we don't know if magic was involved in any of them since Chaos' reality control isn't called magic.Magic can be used to create entire dimensions, Cath’s dimension, Neo Camelot
That's kinda circular reasoning.probably Makai and Tenkai, fairy world
I said might because it's kind of specific. We know at least that it can make an ocean and an atmosphere.The graces can be used to create entire realities through magic
That should definitely be a CRT.Aether quickly calced Makai including the 6 stars we could see in the Behemot panel it’s apparently 4-A iirc we should add « 4-A with Creation
How’s life? Any progress? No hard feeling about yesterday?Who the **** knows? We don't see it. Plus, while magic often does scale to physicals, there are forms of magic that don't.
DK's Ruler is actually a very good example of this because it would've successfully nullified the final combo, whereas he couldn't.
Not the point.
Darkness can make constructs, but we see nothing about it making entire realities that are made of different materials.
Though, admittedly SD's graces might have something similar to how the Greeks saw the classical elements.
Kay, then there'll be no change in the first place, so I'm not going to bother with this.
MidWe shouldn't assume anything. That's the point.
Double midWe don't even see DK create anything like this in the series, so there's no references that we can gleam.
Absorption is a completely unrelated thingIt'd still be limited to DK's AP by this kind of logic. But we know it's not.
RatioDon't even get me started with the shit Melascula and Merlin have done.
Isn’t it stated that it’s Chaos magic in the Q&A we use for lifting strength ?Technically, we don't know if magic was involved in any of them since Chaos' reality control isn't called magic.
It also has a possible sun like light sourceI said might because it's kind of specific. We know at least that it can make an ocean and an atmosphere.
YeThat should definitely be a CRT.