Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[ByAsura]

Mfs. I swear, I have to answer this question every week.

Shouldn't the Albions have 7-A Durability for tanking it's own full countered attack?

No. Its cheek was completely burned off. They just scale to their own AP.

Fyi, stronger characters that can do this kind of harm to Albion are 7-A, and currently nobody scales 1:1 with Albion's durability (Ash Hendy is just power), so it'd change nothing.

it didn’t

Yes it did. I even showed the scan in the dura section, and here's some more.

We scale Twigo and Gilthunder because they were barely scratched by their own reflected magic, but we don't scale Hendrickson because his entire forehead was bleeding heavily (plus, he's been harmed by weaker/comparable people's unarmed strikes).

 

[speedster352]

Mfs. I swear, I have to answer this question every week.

No. Its cheek was completely burned off. They just scale to their own AP.

Fyi, stronger characters that can do this kind of harm to Albion are 7-A, and currently nobody scales 1:1 with Albion's durability (Ash Hendy is just power), so it'd change nothing.

Yes it did. I even showed the scan in the dura section, and here's some more.

We scale Twigo and Gilthunder because they were barely scratched by their own reflected magic, but we don't scale Hendrickson because his entire forehead was bleeding heavily (plus, he's been harmed by weaker/comparable people's unarmed strikes).

How’s life? Any progress?

 

[Le'garde273]

Are we taking this tornado calculation as LS?
The ap feats not really worth it to do but, LS should be worth atleast


volume = 600072980962*2070 (using density of miasma or sulfuric acid)
= 1.2421511e+15 (Baseline Class P)

 

[ByAsura]

We are, but we're still using the mountain end.

I don't think using sulfuric acid or miasma (which is just darkness, btw, and normally not dark enough to have mass) for the entire tornado makes sense at all, otherwise it'd just be a big liquid or black tornado. It's at least mostly air.

Also, that's not the density of sulfuric acid.

 

[speedster352]

How’s life? Any progress?

We are, but we're still using the mountain end.

I don't think using sulfuric acid or miasma (which is just darkness, btw, and normally not dark enough to have mass) for the entire tornado makes sense at all, otherwise it'd just be a big liquid or black tornado. It's at least mostly air.

Also, that's not the density of sulfuric acid.

 

[Le'garde273]

We are, but we're still using the mountain end.

I don't think using sulfuric acid or miasma (which is just darkness, btw, and normally not dark enough to have mass) for the entire tornado makes sense at all, otherwise it'd just be a big liquid or black tornado. It's at least mostly air.

Also, that's not the density of sulfuric acid.

I was thinking like this also before, but there is statement about,

it's created by demon king + stating it's the power of god (maybe also reffering to his godly power can created demon realm filled by miasma inside it?)
it's stated the tornado created by poison that very very toxic and and the density is high
It's also stated if no creature can survive this.
this is nothing but miasma, which same reason demon king create demon world with miasma inside it, so no one race can survive in demon realm beside demon itself. And it's also explain a lot why zeldris (and cusack chandler) can survive without any problem even without any harlequin or ludociel protection inside the tornado due they're a demon that naturally has resistance to miasma.

Also iirc, miasma doesn't actually have darkness appreance
In movie it's showing in like purple and red gas, meliodas exedus miasma invisibly, their darkness blood also called as miasma. Density of normal air is pretty low so
Gonna be weird to me if it's normal air but called high density.

 

[ByAsura]

I was thinking like this also before, but there is statement about,

I don't see how that changes literally anything, especially since we have no idea how long it took him to make the Demon Realm while in his absolute prime.

It's awash in poison. Also, it's quite possible that nothing can survive it due to, you know, being poisonous and insanely high-velocity.

I'll address the rest in a bit, but there's literally nothing even saying it's miasma. So I really don't see why I need to.

Also iirc, miasma doesn't actually have darkness appreance

Yeah it does, actually.

Edit: I should look into the translations, since miasma is called poison here.

Nabaka even says Zeldris and Derieri's darkness coverings are miasma.

Gonna be weird to me if it's normal air but called high density.

It's stated to be high-density energy.

 

[speedster352]

I don't see how that changes literally anything, especially since we have no idea how long it took him to make the Demon Realm while in his absolute prime.

It's awash in poison. Also, it's quite possible that nothing can survive it due to, you know, being poisonous and insanely high-velocity.

I'll address the rest in a bit, but there's literally nothing even saying it's miasma. So I really don't see why I need to.

Yeah it does, actually.

Nabaka even says Zeldris and Derieri's darkness coverings are miasma.

It's stated to be high-density energy.

But wouldn’t that buff the LS though?

 

[ByAsura]

What I'm saying wouldn't, what Aether is saying (which I disagree with) would.

 

[speedster352]

What I'm saying wouldn't, what Aether is saying (which I disagree with) would.

Also it’s worth calcing the miasma clearing feat it would only scale to the goddess magic amp it could be up to high 6a maybe moon level

Are we taking this tornado calculation as LS?
The ap feats not really worth it to do but, LS should be worth atleast


volume = 600072980962*2070 (using density of miasma or sulfuric acid)
= 1.2421511e+15 (Baseline Class P)

 

[ByAsura]

We've had this argument a trillion times.

I'm not getting into it unless something substantial comes.

 

[speedster352]

We've had this argument a trillion times.

I'm not getting into it unless something substantial comes.

Let’s say it doesn’t scale to physical what about high 6a with ED or something like that does that work?

 

[speedster352]

We've had this argument a trillion times.

I'm not getting into it unless something substantial comes.

Any progress with 4 knights profiles? How’s life?

 

[ByAsura]

There's not even an accepted calc.

Anyway, I've been trying to get the novel to clarify more details, but it's basically impossible for some reason (even getting otherwise lost media is easier for me).

 

[speedster352]

There's not even an accepted calc.

Anyway, I've been trying to get the novel, but it's basically impossible for some reason (even getting lost media is easier for me).

But hypothetically what will the calc yield?

 

[ByAsura]

I don't know.

Nobody can even agree on the parameters.

 

[speedster352]

There's not even an accepted calc.

Anyway, I've been trying to get the novel to clarify more details, but it's basically impossible for some reason (even getting otherwise lost media is easier for me).

Also if the calc is made it should just be a range or ED feat

I don't know.

Nobody can even agree on the parameters.

What about in like 3 days erasing miasma would be like high 6a

 

[ByAsura]

time isn't the only parameter.

i don't see a point in even making the calc until we get more info (from either the novel or 4koa)

 

[ByAsura]

Edit: I should look into the translations, since miasma is called poison here.

I looked at the kanji.

DK's storms (I have no clue what the proper translation for this whole scan is), Melascula's miasma, Meliodas' Assault Mode emissions (which doesn't say vapours, btw), and the Demon World's miasma are all 瘴気.

Other instances of poison in the series are different.

Either, they all are miasma, or Nabaka refers to poisonous gas in general as miasma. Personally, I think they're all just miasma, but Makai can clarify this.

But, as I said, it doesn't really change anything (it probably makes it worse) because we know what miasma in the series is, and the density from Bambu's calc wouldn't apply.

 

[speedster352]

time isn't the only parameter.

i don't see a point in even making the calc until we get more info (from either the novel or 4koa)

It’s simple miasma planet wide was cleared in a few days(maybe 1 considering how sudden the attack was) by an unknown mean possibly light magic

 

[speedster352]

I looked at the kanji.

DK's storms (I have no clue what the proper translation for this whole scan is), Melascula's miasma, Meliodas' Assault Mode emissions (which doesn't say vapours, btw), and the Demon World's miasma are all 瘴気.

Other instances of poison in the series are different.

Either, they all are miasma, or Nabaka refers to poisonous gas in general as miasma. Personally, I think they're all just miasma, but Makai can clarify this.

But, as I said, it doesn't really change anything (it probably makes it worse) because we know what miasma in the series is, and the density from Bambu's calc wouldn't apply.

Is this an upgrade Dahlia oneshot the indura at night time?

 

[Majinere566]

Oh my God please don't start this whole miasma shit again

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Oh my God please don't start this whole miasma shit again

 

[speedster352]

time isn't the only parameter.

i don't see a point in even making the calc until we get more info (from either the novel or 4koa)

Could you try to calc it or find someone else to calc it?

 

[Majinere566]

Do you ever get tired of repeating the same shit over and over again genuine question?

Like if you don't get tired other people do it's annoying and frustrating

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Send the spoilers plz

it's horrible to take a print on my cell phone, so unfortunately it won't work

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Gelda will appear in this new chapter.

 

[Makai641001]

I looked at the kanji.

DK's storms (I have no clue what the proper translation for this whole scan is), Melascula's miasma, Meliodas' Assault Mode emissions (which doesn't say vapours, btw), and the Demon World's miasma are all 瘴気.

Other instances of poison in the series are different.

Either, they all are miasma, or Nabaka refers to poisonous gas in general as miasma. Personally, I think they're all just miasma, but Makai can clarify this.

But, as I said, it doesn't really change anything (it probably makes it worse) because we know what miasma in the series is, and the density from Bambu's calc wouldn't apply.

The Kanji Is Miasma which is just noxious air

 

[Makai641001]

It’s simple miasma planet wide was cleared in a few days(maybe 1 considering how sudden the attack was) by an unknown mean possibly light magic

It’s not an unknown mean it’s a sacred light orb that dispelled then entirety of the miasma through the entire dimension.

A Low 5-B calc Is getting examined about this orb

 

[speedster352]

It’s not an unknown mean it’s a sacred light orb that dispelled then entirety of the miasma through the entire dimension.

A Low 5-B calc Is getting examined about this orb

Yeah try and post this int he calc request thread

 

[Makai641001]

Yeah try and post this int he calc request thread

Unfortunately very few calc members ever used the method Aether used (which is about luminosity) for now everybody that saw the calc seemed to agree with it math wise it’s now our job to argue about it narratively (which i did already)

The feat Is obvious and should definitely be accepted if correct math wise.

 

[speedster352]

Unfortunately very few calc members ever used the method Aether used (which is about luminosity) for now everybody that saw the calc seemed to agree with it math wise it’s now our job to argue about it narratively (which i did already)

The feat Is obvious and should definitely be accepted if correct math wise.

Still it's worth posting in the calc request thread

 

[Makai641001]

Still it's worth posting in the calc request thread

Aether probably did let him cook unless he ask for your help

 

[speedster352]

I was thinking like this also before, but there is statement about,

Also iirc, miasma doesn't actually have darkness appreance
In movie it's showing in like purple and red gas, meliodas exedus miasma invisibly, their darkness blood also called as miasma. Density of normal air is pretty low so
Gonna be weird to me if it's normal air but called high density.

Did you do the miasma calc?

Aether probably did let him cook unless he ask for your help

Could you post the scans here just in case?

 

[Makai641001]

Did you do the miasma calc?

We agreed about not doing the miasma calc for now

Could you post the scans here just in case?

What scans ?

 

[speedster352]

We agreed about not doing the miasma calc for now

What scans ?

The novel statement about the golden light. Why not just do the calc to save time? Procrastination is bad.

 

[Makai641001]

The novel statement about the golden light.

it’s already in the calc description With the translation.

Why not just do the calc to save time?

Cuz We agreed to wait for more infos on miasma We can’t even tell it’s density actually

Procrastination is bad.

Hence why we are pushing another method that’s way safer and easier to argue for and Would lead to higher results than the « miasma on the Planet not the dimension» bs

 

[ByAsura]

Why not just do the calc to save time? Procrastination is bad.

It's not about procrastination.

What part of 'time isn't the only parameter' did you not understand?

It’s simple miasma planet wide was cleared in a few days(maybe 1 considering how sudden the attack was) by an unknown mean possibly light magic

It wasn't possibly light magic, it was light magic.

But, regardless, the fact that we don't even know exactly how it was destroyed (as in if it was broken down, or something else) adds a whole other layer.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

A Low 5-B calc Is getting examined about this orb

What calculation is this?

 

[helper]

What calculation is this?

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