Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[Aether2734]

Also would light ball of love have limited death manipulation?

• Jiai no Kougyoku「慈じ愛あいの光こう玉ぎょく, Jiai no Kōgyoku; literally meaning "Lightball of Love"」: Mael takes the LoveCommandment and uses it to create an incredibly destructive explosion. The effects of the Commandment turns any pain and suffering in the opponents into pleasure, lending them to grow sleepy and finally die.[53]

It's already tho,
Death manipulation only for demon
Beside if its not demon it will be pain manipulation

 

[helper]

@ Asura, shouldn't the ten commandments be at least 1 teratons base off this statement

 

[speedster352]

It's already tho,
Death manipulation only for demon
Beside if its not demon it will be pain manipulation

I mean for light all of love

I did it doesn’t work

Add death manipulation for 4c mael via light ball of love which puts the opponent to sleep as they die

 

[speedster352]

I did it doesn’t work

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[Zezu1995]

if yall going wiht the enchantment then we gotta go waaay back,
-gilthunder

• mel hellblaze and vs escanor the one
• merlin weapon enchantment

 

[speedster352]

if yall going wiht the enchantment then we gotta go waaay back,
-gilthunder

• mel hellblaze and vs escanor the one
• merlin weapon enchantment

I thought byashura explained why it can’t be used in nnt

 

[Zezu1995]

then why yall keep bringing up cursed light? thats still NNT

 

[speedster352]

then why yall keep bringing up cursed light? thats still NNT

Byashura said that’s an exception

 

[speedster352]

I did it doesn’t work

Can you help me convince byashura that Meliodas and Zeldris should scale to thier 10x amp attack for tanking the explosion?

 

[ByAsura]

@ Asura, shouldn't the ten commandments be at least 1 teratons base off this statement

There's no baseline for a member Ten Commandments, so I assume this applies to Zeldris and Estarossa.

Byashura said that’s an exception

No I didn't. I said I'm neutral because I just don't care at this point.

 

[helper]

There's no baseline for a member Ten Commandments, so I assume this applies to Zeldris and Estarossa.

No I didn't. I said I'm neutral because I just don't care at this point.

estarossa and zel seem to be on par with ark angels, but i was push that feat for galand since he was able to harm a ark angel in base and do more in CO form

 

[ByAsura]

Estarossa was stomped by their vessels pretty easily, and explicitly needed that Commandment to match their level of power.

Galand there was unable to harm even Escanor with a power level of 50,000. Yet the actual Archangels toyed with Derieri (whose physical strength alone is 48k), so Galand harming them and overpowering an Ark can easily be explained by a weakness to sharp objects and the fact that they were casual.

Also, I translated the text, and it says he was skilled enough to hold his own against Escanor, and Sariel and Tarmiel in a battle. That's not true.

 

[helper]

Estarossa was stomped by their vessels pretty easily, and explicitly needed that Commandment to match their level of power.

Galand there was unable to harm even Escanor with a power level of 50,000. Yet the actual Archangels toyed with Derieri (whose physical strength alone is 48k), so Galand harming them and overpowering an Ark can easily be explained by a weakness to sharp objects and the fact that they were casual.

Also, I translated the text, and it says he was skilled enough to hold his own against Escanor, and Sariel and Tarmiel in a battle. That's not true.

yes estarossa took on 2 ark angels and 1 ark is equal to 2 cmd, and they didnt really stomp estarossa. they sent him to another realm

 

[ByAsura]

Sent him to another realm where they were reducing him to dust with their combined graces.

Either way, Estarossa explicitly isn't as strong as them without Truth. I think Estarossa being half an Archangel is reasonable, and perfectly consistent with their statement given that he specifically did equal them with 2.

 

[helper]

Escanor with a power level of 50,000.

it wasnt 50k power lvl, merlin said 50k then she said 55k then 60k and then she go on and say that his power keep raising

 

[helper]

Sent him to another realm where they were reducing him to dust with their combined graces.

Either way, Estarossa explicitly isn't as strong as them without Truth. I think Estarossa being half an Archangel is reasonable, and perfectly consistent with their statement given that he specifically did equal them with 2.

but shouldnt each ten cmd have atleast 5% of dk

 

[ByAsura]

it wasnt 50k power lvl, merlin said 50k then she said 55k then 60k and then she go on and say that his power keep raising

So it was even less when he was actually hit, hence reinforcing my point.

but shouldnt each ten cmd have atleast 5% of dk

I think we said no to this in another thread.

Also, DK is scaled from them and the Archangels, so all you'd actually be doing is lowering the scaling chain, not heightening them.

 

[helper]

well i give up

 

[Makai641001]

Can you help me convince byashura that Meliodas and Zeldris should scale to thier 10x amp attack for tanking the explosion?

I’m neutral towards It for now we can wait for the novel to confirm this tho They could be able to tank It that Would be a 20x Durability amp isn’t that a bit of an outlier ?

 

[Makai641001]

Sent him to another realm where they were reducing him to dust with their combined graces.

Either way, Estarossa explicitly isn't as strong as them without Truth. I think Estarossa being half an Archangel is reasonable, and perfectly consistent with their statement given that he specifically did equal them with 2.

Since he needed to absorb a commandment to reach them
1 commandment = 2x amp = 10 Commandments boundless

 

[helper]

so that means mael 4 cmd should be 16teratons

 

[helper]

that mean that demon king meli should be over continent lvl

Since he needed to absorb a commandment to reach them
1 commandment = 2x amp = 10 Commandments boundless

 

[helper]

@ asura

 

[Aether2734]

Since he needed to absorb a commandment to reach them
1 commandment = 2x amp = 10 Commandments boundless

pellegarde state fkoa has boundless potential, 10 commandments = boundless
Then Fkoa = above baseline boundless confirmed

 

[Makai641001]

pellegarde state fkoa has boundless potential, 10 commandments = boundless
Then Fkoa = above baseline boundless confirmed

Lake Salisbury = endless magic = synonymous of Boundless = Lancelot absorbed it = More layers into boundless = Chaos stomps = Chaos > Fiction
As a back up we can use the fact that when i see him i’m getting bricked therefore he affects me and i’m > fiction

 

[ByAsura]

so that means mael 4 cmd should be 16teratons

Why?

 

[helper]

Why?

i am just saying if cmd are 2x amps

 

[ByAsura]

Well, we don't know if they're linear, exponential, or neither.

 

[helper]

Well, we don't know if they're linear, exponential, or neither.

why not low ball it

 

[ByAsura]

The normal scaling gets (slightly) higher results than the low-ball (if you can call it that), anyway.

 

[Makai641001]

The normal scaling gets (slightly) higher results than the low-ball (if you can call it that), anyway.

Yeah So if someone has a problem with the normal scaling we Can use the « lowball » as a back up that’s nice

 

[ByAsura]

I don't think it's usable at all, tbh.

But that Estarossa downscaling works.

 

[Makai641001]

I don't think it's usable at all, tbh.

But that Estarossa downscaling works.

It is cuz
You are the system (So now you can wank Meli to boundless)

 

[ByAsura]

On this note, I've made big progress on the scaling chain and fully expect it to come out within the week.

I'd appreciate it if we can hold off on the more ramshackle, spaghetti-string scaling until the 16th.

 

[speedster352]

On this note, I've made big progress on the scaling chain and fully expect it to come out within the week.

I'd appreciate it if we can hold off on the more ramshackle, spaghetti-string scaling until the 16th.

That’s good news so what is going to be added to the nnt profiles? What is the speed, LS and ap ranges?
Also continental starts at 750 teratons.

 

[Aether2734]

Just wait the crt speed

 

[speedster352]

Just wait the crt speed

Which crt? We already have final nnt rescaling crt part 1 from 3 months ago

 

[Majinere566]

Done with Lancelot sandbox

 

[helper]

Done with Lancelot sandbox

add the enchantment

 

[Aether2734]

Done with Lancelot sandbox

Doesn't he kinda has dura neg? For attack inside the guy(i forgot the name) who attack nassien