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Flash the 3rd strongest s class?

They're probably low dragons at best since they aren't cadres and darkshine can also take on multiple dragons. i mean, bakuzan was a dragon too and was a bug compared to gouketsu.

metal knight can probably take on multiple dragons as well. same with bang. he literally one shot two dragons at the same time.
 
Metal Knight (strongest (probably, he feels like an Orochimaru type character that him going all out won't be pretty))

Tatsumaki (obviously)

Pig God ( he would eat him)

Watchdog Man
 
I think Flashy would beat the shit out of Pig God before he'd get the chance to eat him. I am interested in what Pig God's trump card is though.
 
Tats obvi lol, that's why i said 3rd, but idk pig god does seem to intrigue me. I don't really see bofoy beating Flash without prep.

Watchdog man doesnt have the feats to even suggest.
 
What of Bang's abandonment mode, it should be a problem for Flashy Flash. Zombieman can outlast Flashy Flash in a battle. Tbh I want to see a lot of characters go all out. Pig God, Bofoi, Watchdog Man, Drive Knight, etc.
 
WatchdogMan101 said:
What of Bang's abandonment mode, it should be a problem for Flashy Flash. Zombieman can outlast Flashy Flash in a battle. Tbh I want to see a lot of characters go all out. Pig God, Bofoi, Watchdog Man, Drive Knight, etc.
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Not if bang can't hit flash, and zombieman can die if turned to mence meat. Flash is more than capable.
 
The thing is Bang may've also blitzed 2 Dragons, but those Dragons weren't speed specialists like the ones Flashy blitzed were. Also Flashy and those Dragons have that ridiculous feat of fighting around while explosions seemed frozen. My personal opinion for now is Bang's physically stronger and a better fighter, but Flashy's way faster.
 
Blast - Not enough information to get a good answer

Tornado - Flashy can't get past her shields and shouldn't be able to avoid or handle her TK

Silverfang - If Silverfang cannot react then Flash. However if he can then he possess the skill and AP advantage. But considering that Awakened Garou thought that his pre-monster form would've lost to a disarmed Flashy there's probably an argument for both sides

Atomic Samurai - I feel like they possess similar AP amd combat speed, but Flashy has far better movement speed and AS has better skill. I sorta view this as being terrian dependent. A grassy field benfits AS more, but a cluttered area benfits a ninja like Flashy Flash

Child Emperor - Gets blizted

Metal Knight (main unit) - Can't handle his speed and Flashy is probably strong enough to wear the unit down

King - Flashy blitzes King one shots

Zombie Man - Flashy Flash wins. Far faster and according to ONE Zombie Man cannot heal from being reduced to mince meat

Drive Knight - Not enough feats to get a proper idea. But as of now Flashy since Drive Knight lacks speed feats

Pig God - Blitzed unless his trump card is notably amazing (but considering the MA didn't warrent it, Flashy might not)

Superalloy Darkshine - Ye' old AP vs Speed issue. Flashy may not be able to damage Darkshine, but Darkshine can't easily tag him either. Personally favor Darkshine

Watchdog Man - Not feats to say. I guess Flashy Flash right now due to lack of speed feats

Genos/Demon Cyborg - Gets blitzed

Metal Bat - Gets blitzed

Tanktop Master - Gets blitzed

Pri-Pri Prisoner - Gets blizted
 
You haven't seen Metal knight's main unit and I assume Metal knight is able to win Flashy Flash because he has more than enough resources to do so. He has the remains of Boros ship and has more than a 100 powerful robot units. Flashy Flash is definitely not winning Metal knight.
 
So a better list

Blast and King - equals

Metal Knight (Bofoi)

Tatsumaki

Bang, Flashy Flash, Atomic Samurai and Darkshine - somewhat equal

Genos, Metal bat, Watchdog Man, Drive Knight and Pig God - probably on the same level

Tank Top master and Puri Puri prisoner - equals
 
If its his entire army then its possible he can do something, but if its only his typical combat body (which is what I meant by main unit) I don't see him winning. Its rockets are easily avoidable.

Also until his army actually does something notable I definitly wouldn't rate him above Tornado.
 
Ryukama said:
The thing is Bang may've also blitzed 2 Dragons, but those Dragons weren't speed specialists like the ones Flashy blitzed were. Also Flashy and those Dragons have that ridiculous feat of fighting around while explosions seemed frozen. My personal opinion for now is Bang's physically stronger and a better fighter, but Flashy's way faster.
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Personally, i think bang is among the physically strongest, but his technique is what pushes his strength up with his pressure points.
 
Flash can't pass through her barrier even if he's bloodlusted. Tatsumaki will throw him around like a rag doll without even breaking a sweat.
 
Flash could never kill Tatsumaki.


his sword probably isn't durable enough to get pass her regular Psychic Armour, which WHEN WEAKENED, could allow her to survive punches to the face from a Dragon Level threat and still remain conscious, even when having a former brain injury.


The only way Flashy can defeat her is if she completely lets down her powers for whatever reason and LETS HIM KILL HER, which would never happen.
 
Necro, oof. And Flash could blitz her before she could react, he's way faster. Psychics have to choose between attacking and defending so the moment she attacks she's dead
 
1. Flashy and Tatsumaki are in the same speed range. Flash can't blitz her.


2. Tatsumaki can attack and defend at the same time. Going by manga standards, WITHOUT A BARRIER, she's durable enough to take Orochi's blasts and only get very minor scuffling on her dress. Flashy can't cut her even when her barrier is down.


3. Psykos can stop Serious Bang in his tracks. Tatsumaki squishes Flashy Flash before he gets anywhere, no effort.
 
The profiles way otherwise

Flash = Relativistic

Bang = Massively Hypersonic

Tatsu = Sub Rel to Sub Rel+

So, in speed, Flash is superior
 
VS battles is prone to getting things wrong, regularly. Just look at "Star level" dark souls characters.


regardless, Flash's speed means nothing. Bang and Tatsumaki Rank WAY above him for a reason, and there is literally nothing Flashy can do to take down Tatsumaki before she squishes him with a barrier.
 
Why would his speed be wrong though?

regardless, Flash's speed means nothing

It does if Bang is incapable of registering his movements

Bang and Tatsumaki Rank WAY above him for a reason, and there is literally nothing Flashy can do to take down Tatsumaki before she squishes him with a barrier.

Well a few things

  • Hero ranks don't mean much in terms of power scaling. The rankings are based on popularity, how useful the hero is to the HA, how strong they are, how much merchandise they sell, and multiple other factors. Flashy having a lower rank doesn't mean he's weaker than them
  • Bang doesn't have the evidence that he can overcome the speed gap
  • Tornado claps him though, I agree with that
 
1. Flashy Flash's speed isn't wrong, it's Tatsumaki and Bang's speed which is being lowballed. Bang casually deflecting lightning with his bare hands when Orochi blasted Saitama doesn't count? Not to mention Tatsumaki is the only one who could react to Golden Sperm, who Atomic Samurai seemed completely stumped by.


2. The hero rankings are based on general popularity and number of monsters defeated, yes, until we get to the S class, where the strongest are higher ranked. This is why Blast is still number one, despite NEVER doing any work, for YEARS, Tatsumaki is second since no one else on S class can defeat her besides maybe Blast, etc etc.
 
Bang casually deflecting lightning with his bare hands when Orochi blasted Saitama doesn't count?

It wasn't lightning, but electricity. There's no indication that Orochi's electric discharge would be as fast as lightning. But even if it was it'd but mach 2k~ which is still magnitudes lower than Flash's feat

Not to mention Tatsumaki is the only one who could react to Golden Sperm, who Atomic Samurai seemed completely stumped by.

Not only is Atomic Samurai also much slower feat wise, GS' speed comes from Tornado not the other way around. So that's not evidence for a Rel rating.

where the strongest are higher ranked

That is completely untrue:

  • Zombieman is rated higher than Drive Knight, Darkshine, Flashy Flash, Metal Bat, Genos, Watchdog Man, Tanktop Master, Pig God, and PPP despite being far weaker than they are
  • King is considered the strongest human by the HA but is only rank 7
  • The best feat so far from Metal Knight's machines are worse than a casual feat from BoS Genos
  • Genos is above Metal Bat despite the latter being capable of killing Dragon level threats
  • Pig God is rated above Darkshine, Flashy Flash, and Watchdog Man
The rankings are effected by power, but power is at best just one of many factors that go into it. The HA rankings are not the Disater Ratings, which go far narrower strength scale. You cannot say they're faster than FF based solely on being a higher rating.
 
@AtomicSekiro

In S-Class the rankings are achieved by the amount of work they do. Which is why Watchdogman is rather low (because he doesn't leave the city). And why King is rated at all in S-Class.

Blast is number 1 because they all know he's the undisputed strongest and they call him "number 1" because he's the ace, the last resort.
 
But on the topic no. Flashy ain't taking 3rd spot in S-Class.

Blast and Tatsumaki obvious spots. But i don't really see him beating serious Bang and full artilery Bofoi. And personal opinion, watchdog man could be a good fight for him.
 
Serious Bang would be kinda Inconclusive

Bangs is physically superior, but he's not going to ever catch Flash, the speed gap is huge for now

Same goes to Full Power Bofoi
 
Current Webcomic Genos was able to stalemate and didn't take damage from a short scuffle with Flashy Flash.


Would it, then, be fair to say Current Genos is above current Bang?
 
I think the best way to phrase it is, Flashy Flash is the "fastest moving around", being a ninja and all, he's real good at dipping, ducking and jumping.


however, Atomic Samurai, the HA's "strongest backup member", could have better combat/close quarters speed, along with Bang, who Atomic respects.
 
Not enough proof because Flash wasn't using his full power, didn't even had the reason to

Stamina could be the key for Bang, indeed
 
So even a casual Flashy Flash can't outspeed a Casual Genos? They were both casual at the time.


regardless, all in all, Flashy isn't the 3rd strongest. Blast, Tatsumaki, Bang, Metal Knight and Darkshine should all be above him. Darkshine took more, and stronger hits than Flashy did from Garou and still survived. Bang is too durable for Flashy Flash to damage, Metal Knight has an endless army of robots with nuclear bombs, and Tatsumaki insta-squishes.
 
Proof, being?

I could easy just as say "A Serious Bang could handle Flashy Flash the same way he STOMPED through the Dragon Cadres, and was only stopped when Psykos locked him in place with her powers, which he had no defence or counter against".
 
Proof being the ninja duo are immensely faster than Bang to the point where he would be frozen in time from their perspective, and Flash has comparable or superior physical stats to Bang. And he has a bladed weapon, which Bang can't tank. Without using vs battle wiki standards, Flash has more feats, statements, and story portrayal. One and Murata show him as different from most of the S class and place special focus on him. With vs battle wiki standards, he has calcs and scaling to support it.

Feats: Starting from the fight with Hellfire and Gale, who are the fastest monsters we've seen in the series besides Boros and Awakened Garou, Flash handled them and when getting serious was able to blitz and one shot them with his Flashy slash. Later on, Phoenix Man said they were both Cadre candidates. Then Flash was able to fight Awakened Garou better than all of the heroes that fought him combined. He was actually able to survive and swap hands with him while Garou was holding back, though it should be noted that same Garou was fast enough to blitz everyone else and make Darkshine bleed with his attacks. Then later on we have Flash's spar (game of tag lmao) with Saitama where he was able to dodge casual Saitama. Can't really quantify that but it's there. And then the fight with the other ninja which is hard to scale, though Flash did note that after fighting Saitama, the other ninja seemed slow. We also got the backstory of Flash killing the other ninja in his class at only age 16, when a "failure" ninja like Sonic was considered a failure and is above the level of the lower scaled S class heroes and most Demons.

Statements: We have second form Phoenix Man stating that he has to be weary of fighting Flash after figuring out that Flash killed both Hellfire and Gale. Indicating that Hellfire and Gale weren't low tiers within the MA Dragon Hierachy, and that for Flash to be able to kill them, he'd be a threat to even him. Then we have Saitama calling Flash kinda fast in the manga, where Saitama almost never gives compliments. IIRC the last time he gave someone a compliment on their physical attributes was calling Boros strong. Then we have the statement from Darkshine saying that Flash is one of the 4 that would kill Mid Darkshine fight Garou before he would even have a chance to use any techniques. Then we got Zombieman saying that Flash is one of the best fighters among the S class. Then we got Awakened Garou himself confirming that if he fought Flash before he Awakened, he would've lost. Keep in mind this was Flash with no weapons. And then Flash started getting even faster after that.

So yea. Feats and Statement wise, Flash has alot going for him. And One and Murata went out of their way to give him these feats and statements both in the original and adding onto it in the manga.

So Flash is faster than all of the S class heroes, scales above most of them, and is more skilled of a fighter than most of them. Blast and Tats are overall stronger, but he can potentially blitz her before she can react or do anything. Metal Knight is weird since he has the whole army of bots thing, but from what he's shown so far, he isn't above him. Child Emperor scales above Flash in terms of AP on his profile, but it depends on if the "likely higher" for Flash really scales to Phoenix Man. The rest can't keep up with him and don't have tools to be able to hurt him or put him down. So at the very least he's top 5
 
AtomicSekiro said:
Proof, being?
I could easy just as say "A Serious Bang could handle Flashy Flash the same way he STOMPED through the Dragon Cadres, and was only stopped when Psykos locked him in place with her powers, which he had no defence or counter against".
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There's no way Bang can survive Flashy Slash, an ultimate technique that OneShot GW and HF simultaneously and also he cannot dodge it either. Before Saitama, no one had ever been able to dodge it as well as react to the technique(You can tell that by simply watching how badly he blitzed the two ninja when he serious), it is impossible to defend against the technique. If that lands, Bang will end up just like Gums when he brutally stomped the monster IMO.
 
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