Fatehax MTFKRS VS I also have Fatehax but now you die

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

But he'll null his powers with 2-A powernull, which is enough

 

[Ionliosite]

Question, has Sonic ever lead with Power null?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He eventually will when he realizes that he cant move

 

[Ionliosite]

So ID won't do squad to Sonic and gets nulled shortly after... it sounds like a stomp.

 

[Neon_Battle_Bind]

Question, has Sonic ever lead with Power null?

We haven't seen him lead with it,but he does use the Power Rings immediately if he has them on his person.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So ID won't do squad to Sonic and gets nulled shortly after... it sounds like a stomp.

Just wait until ID reaches 2-A

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

He's gotta reach 2-A and bypass dem annoying ass Fatehax to do so ovo.

 

[MrLuk2000]

Yogiri is a glass cannon. Sonic has to hit him once and he's dead.

Precognition isn't gonna help him either as Sonic resists that, unless Yogiri's Precog works in a different way.

Edit: Wait I'm stupid. Base Sonic is only MFTL+ while Yogiri has Immeasurable reaction speed, so Yogiri can react and just instantly kill him again, Sonic comes back and tries to kill him again, Yogiri says "begone Hedgehog" and bypassing his Type 8. Then there's this Power Null

I'll retract my vote for now

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Now that I think about it, Yogiri could just blitz. Doesnt matter if the Fatehax is passive because Immeasurables are still faster than that and Yogiri has blitzed passives before

Either way, still a mismatch so better close this imo

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

It would be an incon as Sonic couldn't react to Yogiri and Yogiri can't kill Sonic.

With speed equal Sonic nulls and slaps.

 

[PhantomØ4]

Can this be added as incon then? or how many votes do both sides need?

 

[Neon_Battle_Bind]

This is a stomp in Sonic's favor.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Sonic fra

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Whats stopping Yogiri from blitzing?

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Whats stopping Yogiri from blitzing?

If speed is unequal it's a stomp match which is not allowed.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Then I'll ask a mod to close this

 

[PhantomØ4]

I thought Yogiri could not kill Sonic permanently with speed unequal??

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He can because he is immeasurable, thus passives wont work

 

[PhantomØ4]

Ah, right. So this is a stomp for either depending on speed.

 

[KaizukaZekrom]

So Yogiri Stomp?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

With speed unequal? Yes

Speed equal Sonic yeets

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

He can because he is immeasurable, thus passives wont work

Sonic's passives can work on immeasurables like Master Mogul.

However it's a stomp because Sonic can't comprehend Yogiri due to being ironically so much faster.

 

[ElixirBlue]

? But Sonic doesn't control his passive FateHax. Why would he need to comprehend Yogiri?

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

He wouldn't be able to attack or comprehend him because of how fast Yogiri is moving.

MFTL+ < Immeasurable

Super and Ultra forms however are different stories.

 

[ElixirBlue]

But I don't understand why Sonic comprehending things effect the FateHax.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

It won't.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Sonic's passives can work on immeasurables like Master Mogul.

However it's a stomp because Sonic can't comprehend Yogiri due to being ironically so much faster.

The FateHax is passive but it doesn't work on Yogiri because Sonic can't comprehend him?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I mean, usually fatehax doesnt help much when your opponent is unfathomably faster than you

 

[ElixirBlue]

"Even if I were to act now, I'm certain something would thwart me or save you."

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Uh

Inconclusive then, I guess

 

[ElixirBlue]

One time, FateHax created a situation where Sonic could go Super to save him.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

But we are using only Base here

 

[ElixirBlue]

It's nature of the FateHax. Even if you ban Super Sonic, if that's the single, last possible, only option to prevent Sonic from dying, it will bend all of time and space (not proactively but in a very quiet, subtle way) to make Sonic go Super. That's the nature of it. Sonic's quantum guardian.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yeah, but we can restrict his super forms and thats pretty much what we are doing

 

[ElixirBlue]

So, wait, are we restricting the fatehax?

 

[Genericstickman]

Isn't this battle done?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So, wait, are we restricting the fatehax?

Nah, we are only restricting the super forms

 

[PhantomØ4]

Fate Hax < Match Rules

 

[ElixirBlue]

The power of the FateHax will create a situation where Sonic can use his Super form if it's necessary. Idk about Ultra but it has been done before for Super. Saying Sonic can't go Super is saying that we are restricting the capabilities of the FateHax.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The power of the FateHax will create a situation where Sonic can use his Super form if it's necessary. Idk about Ultra but it has been done before for Super. Saying Sonic can't go Super is saying that we are restricting the capabilities of the FateHax.

Even with that, we can restrict if it leads to a higher tier