You know what? Time to make another Hedgehog vs OP LN characyer| Archie Sonic vs Anos | 7-0-0 (grace finished¿?????¿¿????)

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If the argument is that Sonic's fatehax guarantees his win and anos cant do anything about it, then how would this not be a stomp match? The votes shouldnt count.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Anos resists power null and like I said

Sonic's Powernull is on a 7D level

as 3 ways to incapacitate through sleep without magic

• Starting within 4km of Anos, sonic is put to sleep.
• Anos looks at him with his eyes and he's put to sleep

Powernull may prevent this? But I'm unsure if it works on non-magical abilities

Alternatively, Anos can null sonics powers as well

Most of Sonic's wincons are from a 7D power source

deconstruct him just by looking at him.

This counts as death which means The One Billionth Ring Aura would come into play

What does sonic even do as a starting move in character? Ring wishes which seems doubtful he starts with that, will not be faster than being put to sleep, dying just being near someone's existence.

Not sure about the sleep part, but he won't die, and for what he starts with, he would probably go into direct combat first

As it turns out magic is a thing for sonic so I see no reason why he has no ESP to sense other's power.

Archie Sonic doesnt have ESP for some reason

Finally, I'll ask again, does the fate manipulation happen within combat applicable time-frames, for those who voted sonic cause of it, how is it gonna incap, permanently kill or make Anos give up to deem sonic the victor?

Yes it has worked in a combat applicable time-frame, as Fate intervened in his fight against Mammoth Moguel

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

fight happens at a doomguy's house if he has one

lol

 

[Dog3352]

Can a character with high-godly regeneration regenerate if their existence is erased by a higher-dimensional hax that does not have high-godly negation?

 

[Robo432343]

Can a character with high-godly regeneration regenerate if their existence is erased by a higher-dimensional hax that does not have high-godly negation?

7D EE destroys 3D HGR for example

 

[Tatsumi504]

Sonic's Powernull is on a 7D level

Thi is base archie sonic or are you saying his abilities are 7D even in base form? How isn't this match a stomp?

Most of Sonic's wincons are from a 7D power source

Same as above

This counts as death which means The One Billionth Ring Aura would come into play

I only saw immortality 3 & 8 and it's not stated what level of type 3 he has. You need type 4 to come back from death, I think

Archie Sonic doesnt have ESP for some reason

Shouldn't have mattered at all. Regular humans don't have the aptitude to use, sense or see magic but can be killed by Anos death manipulation.

Not sure about the sleep part, but he won't die, and for what he starts with, he would probably go into direct combat first

I might be confused about the mechanics of type 8 immortality to be honest but is it 7D as well? If he starts with direct combat then he isn't getting past the incap hax.

Yes it has worked in a combat applicable time-frame, as Fate intervened in his fight against Mammoth Moguel

What exactly happened in the fight?

 

[Dog3352]

Could someone please add scans of Fate Haxs in action to Sonic's Fate Haxs explanation (and also in this thread)? It is VERY unlikely that anyone who has not seen Fate Hax in action will be able to try to find any weaknesses in Hax without knowing how it works.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Thi is base archie sonic or are you saying his abilities are 7D even in base form? How isn't this match a stomp?

His Power Null, and his Chaos Energy are on a 7D level, but Sonic needs to uses equipment to use Chaos Energy, which he probably wouldnt start with, and Powernull Aura, is only against attacks used against him

I only saw immortality 3 & 8 and it's not stated what level of type 3 he has. You need type 4 to come back from death, I think

One Billionth Ring Aura description
A constant, invisible, passive aura that always surrounds Sonic at all times, gifted to him by The Ancient Walkers after collecting his Billionth Power Ring. It has been shown to act on its own volition to protect Sonic on several occasions. It has restored Sonic's physical and spiritual essence, absorbed and retained his Life Force, has nullified magic that's targeted him, and even brought him back after being erased from existence by the Ultimate Annihilator after it overloaded, as well when he was stated and shown to be successfully vaporized.

Shouldn't have mattered at all. Regular humans don't have the aptitude to use, sense or see magic but can be killed by Anos death manipulation.

Aura will allow him to survive

I might be confused about the mechanics of type 8 immortality to be honest but is it 7D as well?

Sonic's Type 8 is reliant on the Billionth Ring Aura, which is from a 7D source

If he starts with direct combat then he isn't getting past the incap hax.

Other then the powernull potentially working, then ig Sonic doesnt have a way around this, aside from maybe Wish Granting

What exactly happened in the fight?

The Fight didn't have any mention of fate, it was after the fight where it was mentioned.
All thats really said is Fate intervened to Ensure Sonic won that battle, nothing else really

 

[CloverDragon03]

Blue Blur FRA

 

[Tatsumi504]

Blue Blur FRA

Cmon, not you too. What viable wincon does have that is a starting move and doesn't make this a stomp?

 

[Dog3352]

You can remove my vote for Sonic, since most of Sonic's 7D hax still need to be activated, I thought he already had them all at the beginning.

 

[Brogeefrong]

btw anos could still knock out sonic

 

[Robo432343]

btw anos could still knock out sonic

he literally cant

 

[Brogeefrong]

he literally cant

It's not as if Sonic is immune to physical blows

 

[Robo432343]

It's not as if Sonic is immune to physical blows

bro what
sonic has been dealing with physical blows for god knows how long + fate hax that will guarantee a win + 7d powernull
this isn't getting added

 

[Robo432343]

im going to make a better sonic vs match

 

[Brogeefrong]

bro what
sonic has been dealing with physical blows for god knows how long

Sonic is only Low 2-C in durability

+ fate hax that will guarantee a win

Fate Hax atleast ensures an eventually victory, and the point was kinda left unclear here

+ 7d powernull

The powernull nulls abilites, many characters can attack Sonic, and Sonic did lose to Eggman before

 

[Tatsumi504]

bro what
sonic has been dealing with physical blows for god knows how long + fate hax that will guarantee a win + 7d powernull
this isn't getting added

For one, no one mentioned physical blows as a wincon. Anos has sleep hax that sonic doesn't resist.
Power null is limited to what it has been shown to nullify and in this case seems limited to magic.
How exactly will the fate hax make Anos lose?

 

[Tatsumi504]

im going to make a better sonic vs match

Go ahead so long as it doesn't involve Anos. There's a handful of other MG characters that can be used for match ups

 

[Robo432343]

For one, no one mentioned physical blows as a wincon.

It's not as if Sonic is immune to physical blows

 

[Brogeefrong]

It's not as if he said physical blows arent a win con it just hasent been bought up yet

 

[Brogeefrong]

Anyways most of the votes do feel like they voted for Sonic for the sake of voting, as the wincons for Anos werent even established by the time grace was met

 

[Fezzih_007]

Anyways most of the votes do feel like they voted for Sonic for the sake of voting, as the wincons for Anos werent even established by the time grace was met

Then why did you count them?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Then why did you count them?

What else was i suppose to do ignore votes, i even said in the wincon area, that i wanted to hear on Anos' side what he could do against Sonic

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

If the argument is that Sonic's fatehax guarantees his win and anos cant do anything about it, then how would this not be a stomp match? The votes shouldnt count.

^

 

[Brogeefrong]

^

Iirc the Fate Hax ensures an eventually victory according to the other Archie Supporters, acting to prevent Sonic from ever dying or a permanent loss
I think in this case if Anos is ever trying to kill Sonic, Fate would intervene to ensure Sonic would win this fight, so like the Rimuru thread it would come down if Anos would want to kill Sonic

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Iirc the Fate Hax ensures an eventually victory according to the other Archie Supporters, acting to prevent Sonic from ever dying or a permanent loss
I think in this case if Anos is ever trying to kill Sonic, Fate would intervene to ensure Sonic would win

Ok? So you admit this is a stomp. Then why are you counting the votes? Just ask someone to close this.

 

[Robo432343]

you are just explaining more and more why sonic stomps

 

[Brogeefrong]

Ok? So you admit this is a stomp. Then why are you counting the votes? Just ask someone to close this.

This doesnt stop Anos from incap, as long as he's not trying to kill Sonic, mb for not adding that in before

 

[Duedate8898]

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