Anos did that to an entire country at once he's definitely hitting him first.
Speed is equal here, and Sonic has speed amplifying moves.
Basically prevents him from being killed/beaten.
Oh yeah, Archienic doesn't resist power null like his game self does.
What does "victory" entail anyway? Out of Anos kit rn he has two ways to incap via sleep manipulation, another via death manipulation.
For what I know it's at least he's not gonna die
I mean...it's fate hax.
In what way does it intervene and to what extent? Will it negate enemies powers, mess with cause effect & time, will it kill his enemies, will it revive sonic if he's erased on the highest level possible etc? Like I said, NLF territory.
He emits power, sonic sleeps. He looks at sonic, sonic sleeps.
Base Archie Sonic
What about what he says is NLF territory again? I feel like people start throwing this term out like a special move video game bosses do at low HP nowadays.
Depends on which bro you're talking about.
You already know who.
No one is saying something like "he is capable of negate Living Tribunal", but rather the fact that they have 0 demonstrations of Fate hax's capabilities, it is impossible to know what he would and would not be able to prevent, which prevents the person from finding any weakness/loophole in the hax, since in this case, the person can just say "such hax does such thing" without any kind of demonstration/deed that supports that the hax is capable of doing such a thing.
This should be half right and half wrong, since MGK's logic is not simply something capable of affecting the order, but something that does things that nothing in MGK can do, and has a huge amount of hax with Logic alone (literally every venuzdonoa's hax is made via hax logic, without even counting the next volumes that have more haxs).
Not sure what you're trying to say here, but in any case here is a description (at lease one) of Sonic's fate hax.
Not sure what you're trying to say here, but in any case here is a description (at lease one) of Sonic's fate hax.
For reference, both times Mogul "achieved godhood", he was Acausal Type 4 (and 1-C), yet he admits he was still fate haxxed by Sonic.
Victory is a very broad term is the point. I only asked in what ways it has intervened before in other words, what will it do that causes his opponent to lose, in this case where the opponent puts him to sleep?
Not when the verse already outlines it as something different. Logic > Order= laws, fate and concepts. If logic is destroyed order is destroyed. Intervening with logic intervenes with order etc. It's crystal clear there's a difference
There's essentially no power Anos has that doesn't exist in some fashion in Archie Sonic from what can be gathered. The fact that nothing ever really kills him thanks to this fate manipulation would tell me that it's more than capable of stopping Anos. Really, the discussion to be had is if it acts within combat applicable timeframes.
Not a single thing said here makes it any more special than just more potent Law Manipulation/Conceptual Manipulation. Affecting Order is law manipulation (and conceptual manipulation on top of it) if a higher degree than other instances of it and doing thing others can't doesn't make it more special, just more potent or of a different nature than the others. Saying what's demonstrated is a fundamentally different is just seeing the word "logic" and running with it to unreasonable extremes. Never mind how even on the site manipulation of logic is classified as Law Manipulation, I have no idea how this verse even got away with ranking it as something fundamentally different.
See above.
There's nothing to get away with. It's a fundamentally different power. It's already made clear for one that both are different using the words "Reason", "Logic" when law based powers already exist.
Moving on from the NLF allegations now and concentrating on this.
Base Sonic I think has a few wincons
What equipment does Archie Sonic have? Rings, emeralds, the Sword of Acorns?
Try smurf vs smurf fights, those are arguably worse.
he has his standard equipment which include these
ig counted?
♂. Can any of the voters explain how sonic is gonna put Anos down or how he avoids getting incapped the moment the battle starts?
The Passive Magic Powernull aura, and Ring wishesNow it's an FRA train
Anos resists power null and like I said, has 3 ways to incapacitate through sleep without magic
