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Yeah and I'm pretty sure even amongst E strength servants Medea is pretty weak physically
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Rank | Value | + | ++ | +++ |
---|---|---|---|---|
A | 50 | 100 | 150 | 200 |
B | 40 | 80 | 120 | 160 |
C | 30 | 60 | 90 | 120 |
D | 20 | 40 | 60 | 80 |
E | 10 | 20 | 30 | 40 |
It doesn't work like that. The plus sign indicates that sometimes they can momentarily double their Rank value, so A+ = 50/100, B+ = 40/80, etc. Normally Herk operates with A Rank STR.DragonEmperor23 said:Huh, it's interesting how the value for the ranks match the amount of tons in this case.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Parameter_Rules
A+ =100 Value = 100 megatons
A= 50 Value = 50 megatons
Since it's possible to have characters beat characters stronger than them in a physical fight, we can just do it this way. A+ Rank and above Servants are baseline 7-A and A rank and below are 7-B+. Also, is there any reason that we make the E rank Servants 9-B? We can just scale them to being one tenth of A+.
Increases again. Asterios can go from 50 to 150, as does Gorgon and it's explicitly due to them being monsters that they can have such a high value.DragonEmperor23 said:But Asterios and Gorgon have skills that makes their stats A++, how would this be momentarily? Also, where is it mentioned that Herc is able to double his rank value?
"And I'm hundred percent sure that this type of thinking about using the Parameters is why we have Servants with lower Ranks in STR having a higher physical striking power than this idea would suggest, so you still aren't solving that problem."
I'm just trying to think of something.
Which is why Gil's line right after shouldn't refers to his NP Rank and general ability(Paramaeters), oh wait it does.Paul Frank said:The momentary buff refers exclusively to abilties and nps
It's in the cited side material.DragonEmperor23 said:I don't think I've ever seen this being mentioned anywhere in series. I think them able able to multiply their strength or speed by twice or thrice would have been said at least once.
Uh huh. Which is why we just conveniently ignore his other average stats and CM 3 where it's pretty clear what the context is.Paul Frank said:It literally says his abiltiy scores aren't good but his noble phantasm parameter is
Its referring to two different things
It's not a retcon? It's been there since FSN. And you have yet to show that others actually have a permanent buff just because of the + and not anything else, so...Monarch Laciel said:Nasu loves his retcons.
Enough people have a static + to their parameters that the part where it's only momentary has been long since retconned.
Because it's generally assumed that most people would know this since most fans are Japanese and have read his side materials and works. It's like every new maths course that requires you to have a basic understanding in some areas covered in the past years.DragonEmperor23 said:I'm talking about by the characters as opposed to WoG. They mention stuff like Ranks and skills for all sorts of things, but never about this stat boost.
You say this but almost every Grail War they still bring that other stuff up again. The reader already knows it, it's the characters talking about it.RegisNex1232 said:Because it's generally assumed that most people would know this since most fans are Japanese and have read his side materials and works. It's like every new maths course that requires you to have a basic understanding in some areas covered in the past years.
Those are Rank ups, not Plus/Minus modifiers. That is two separate things.Monarch Laciel said:I think he meant Natural Monster or Demon of Mutation, which are permanent.