Fairy Tail Speed Revisions

[The_Calaca]

Save your breath. Ranting will get you nowhere.

 

[ShadowGun45]

@Shadow ah, I see. I didn't know. Well, the difference is still pretty big so nothing changes much from that point.

the two times Laxus struck Erza she dodged extremely easily and then managed to keep up with Laxus

I will wait for the Deus Sema Calculation but it will probably be somewhere around Mach 6k and Sub Rel

 

[CNBA3]

they had a whole year to get faster, so I can't understand why you think they wouldn't be faster than in Alvarez

If you want to know, read to comment above, it is better you read there than wasting your time with the thread notification

 

[AnonymousBlank]

@Mitch

Do you mind making a low end of Laxus feat that starts his crossed distance from directly off panel as he could not have been any closer to Erza for the feat?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Wow, reslly glad I missed that whole discussion above...

Yeah I can make a low end

 

[The_Calaca]

Let us know once you're done.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Low End is 1.6% SoL (Sub-Relativistic)

 

[ShadowGun45]

would only be 3.3x faster than Erza's made, I think it's more acceptable

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I asked another Calc Member for their input, so let's just wait for their response

 

[ShadowGun45]

but if Deus Sema stay around Mach 6k and Sub Rel I stay with 3.2% SoL

 

[The_Calaca]

The CGM will decide which end is more mathematically correct. We don't accept ends based on what do we think it's consistent.

 

[CNBA3]

but it would be safe for MHS+ since it doesn't jump to something that is outlier.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Aren't there a couple lightning feats that need to be calc'd? At least that's what I've heard.

 

[CNBA3]

if it were calced, it would lead to more outliers especially since BoF

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

@CNBA3 I'm quite confident you don't know what an Outlier is, since you throw that word out so much that's it;s your catchphrase

 

[CNBA3]

it is where a feat that is situated away from a main flow of calcs to keep a sense of consistency via either calced or displayed for a character.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Yeah, but Laxus being faster than he was at the beginning of the series isn't an Outlier

 

[CNBA3]

yet Gajeel managed to outpace his lightning bolt to save Levy and Natsu, that would say much about how fast they would be in the beginning as well.

 

[CNBA3]

@BlackeJan

Mind your language, try to be less argumentative and unreasonable, and stop provoking and insulting the staff. Consider this as an official warning.

I'm imma have to ask u why are you telling ME that I'm provoking when it was HIM that started this whole thing in the 1st place? U need to look at him first before coming at me just cause he's a discussion mod

calm down, you will do no one good if you get provoked like that

 

[The_Calaca]

This isn't about who started what. You wasn't behaving well nor he was. Both were warned for your attittude regardless of who started.

Your Mom should've told you already that she doesn't care who start the fight. Apply that lesson here and drop the subject.

 

[CNBA3]

Just saying the truth. I love Ant and Dragon to death but don't try to point fingers at someone just cause he ain't one of the top dogs in the wiki

No one are pointing fingers, just recommended to stay cool

 

[Jvando]

OOOOOOOOKAY, Here it is. As a note, you can't ask Alex for an evaluation of this calc since he helped me with it.

 

[The_Calaca]

So you talk spanish too

Thank you for your work.

With this I can believe Laxus' calc is not outlierish.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I think the only question left is on whether PoF amps speed. None of the other times people get amped by it show speed buffs. Gildarts who is comparable to Team Natsu in speed was able to actually land hits on August and not get blitzed, August and Irene never blitzed anyone etc X792 onwards should be scaled to Sub-Rel tbh.

 

[CNBA3]

Low end looks good

 

[BlackeJan]

If Erza speed feat vs Irene is a lot better then she did vs Laxus then it's an outlier

 

[CNBA3]

That is why low end is good

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Erza is shown to be comparable to Laxus so she would scale to the 3%. 3.9% isn't a lot better so there is no outlier.

 

[BlackeJan]

No. If the Erza feat vs Laxus is shown to be lower then the one vs Irene then it's an outlier. She has trouble keeping up with the guy in general and she even admitted it

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Wow, those results seem good, I don't think Erza's attack against the meteor ever implied an increase in speed, it was all about AP and Striking Class, not Speed or Durability

So I say her speed scales to X792 characters regardless of the result

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Natsu was hit by a bullet, guess we should downgrade the verse to subsonic.

She was going blow for blow with Laxus in her best armor so she scales to him in speed. The feat she performs right before his is irrelevant.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes, I agree with the scaling.

Sub Rel for OG God Tiers and 100YQ Top Tiers and onwards.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

^While yes

Let's wait for Jvando's Calc to get evaluated by just another calc member before we jump the gun on the revisions

 

[The_Calaca]

True.

We have finally reached a conclusion so I got excited.

 

[CNBA3]

She was not at her best though at the time, she was not using PoF.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

PoF doesn't amp speed and never has.

Edit: Also did anyone request this on the eval thread?

 

[CNBA3]

It does, even you said that going blow for blow with Laxus scales in terms of speed, so that would mean even PoF would amp stats too

 

[BlackeJan]

Sorry but that's making an excuse right there. PoF increase everything no matter what. Natsu was able to keep hitting Laxus even though the latter was completely dominating him in speed and power Erza feat vs Irene is an outlier if her speed feat is vs Laxus is faster plain and simple

 

[AnonymousBlank]

You don't understand how this works at all.

PoF has never amped speed, if you want to insist it does, provide an example.

Erza just showed up after a year of training, right now any and all of her feats exist in a vacuum unless something suggests them to be the same/greater/weaker. Due to Natsu's fight with Wraith, we know her AP and dura are x4 stronger. Her speed is non existent beyond being at least her X792 self until something says she got slower. She just matched Laxus who has a sub rel feat consistent with hers from X792 which you will no doubt argue as amped by PoF and thus doesn't count.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What excuse? If you want to say its a speed amp, prove it. Give a single instance that shows speed being amped by PoF. If not, drop the topic and stew in your headcanon.