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Fairy Tail Speed Revisions

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It can especially in instances where in cases of using PoF, some characters like Natsu have blitz other characters. All we know is that she just has her swords enchanted, nothing really suggesting anything important. Especially with being able to defeat the GE with relative ease and how weak they are, Wraith even stated that Madmole is on the level of no magic Natsu and even he is weaker than Makarov. Even Laxus blitzed Jura without his lightning body which Jura tagged before.
 
I think either speed result is fine, honestly completely neutral on this part, although I guess that the Sub-Rel end makes more sense, since why would she swing her sword before she was right in front of the meteor
 
She did swing her sword before the meteor though...

Actually what is Erza speed ft vs Laxus is? cause if it's Mass. Hypersonic+ then the Deus Sema ft is an outlier
 
Both Therefir and Ugarik say they are leaning towards the low end to be conservative, but with all due respect to both, that isn't relevant.

If the math of both ends has been deemed accurate then from that point forward it isn't a matter of being conservative, it is a matter of being appropriate. This means it becomes the responsibility of those who are knowledgeable on the verse to discuss and determine what end is appropriate for use dependent on the context of the feat and the consistency of said feats.

As it stands we have a MHS+ from Erza in 100YQ, a Sub rel from Laxus in 100YQ and now we have the Deus Sema feat with a high end in Sub rel and a low end in MHS+, consistency isn't an issue at this point what is an issue is determining what end is usable. That's for this thread to figure out.
 
Erza's feat from 100 years quest doesn't really makes sense because that would mean she's slower than her pre timeskip 1 armed self.

IMO I say we should use the low end for Deus Sema and the High end for Laxus's feat because It corresponds with their training increase quite well because 4*7192 mach = 28768 mach or 3.3% Sol.
 
I just revised the Erza speed part of the calc based on what Alex said and the new results are:

  • Low-End = Mach 19,627 (2.23% SoL)
  • High-End = Mach 93,983 (10.67% SoL)
So low-end it is
 
Low-End for Erza's Feat, High-End for Laxus's Feat

That's my belief

Erza Destroys Meteor
Sword is already swung a distance from the meteor, not right in its face
 
X792 Characters: Sub-Relativistic (2.23% SoL)

100 Year Quest Characters and God Tiers: Sub-Relativistic (3.2% SoL)

It's consistent and works for scaling
 
Alex agreed that the High-End for Laxus's Calc is correct, plus I agree with Low-End for Erza's Calc, so this seems good to me

X792 Characters: Sub-Relativistic (2.23% SoL)

100 Year Quest Characters and God Tiers: Sub-Relativistic (3.2% SoL)

It's consistent and works for scaling
 
Weakened Erza speed should scale to Spriggans, some characters would only get likely
 
Jvando said:
I just revised the Erza speed part of the calc based on what Alex said and the new results are:
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High end is fine, don't lowball ft

Low end is more consistent to 100yq feat.

@mitch what happened to jura calc?
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Weakened Erza speed should scale to Spriggans, some characters would only get likely
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There are people who needs a Possibly instead of a Likely since this is Erza strongest armor like Lucy, Wendy, Levy
 
That makes no sense. If that was the case then she wouldn't need to even use that armor to try and keep up with Laxus so she would had used something more so towards speed if anything. This is Erza strongest armor and lucy, wendy, and everyone else lower class doesn't need to scale to it
 
Again not true. If that was the case she would had needed something akin for speed if she wanted to keep up with Laxus. Hell speed can also be offensive. Idk why u guys keep saying that it doesn't increase speed when she knows that Laxus is also fast
 
I think you forgot that Erza wears this armor for everything

this armor takes away all resistances and focuses all its power on the sword
 
BlackeJan said:
Again not true. If that was the case she would had needed something akin for speed if she wanted to keep up with Laxus. Hell speed can also be offensive. Idk why u guys keep saying that it doesn't increase speed when she knows that Laxus is also fast
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increase speed and scarifices her ap and didnt even able to hurt laxus


sounds good
 
ShadowGun45 said:
I think you forgot that Erza wears this armor for everything
this armor takes away all resistances and focuses all its power on the sword
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No i didnt forget. Again speed can also be factored into this since she was also able to keep up with Laxus, who she agreed was fast. If that was the point then she could had used her Flight Armor instead then


@1997

I think you need to actually read what i written cause ive never said that to begin with....well what i meant by what ive said is that Clear Cloth was the only option to actually win against Laxus and keeping up with him
 
yes she could but Hiro only makes her use the sky wheel and the rags

Erza already has a lot of speed without needing other armor
 
She was keeping up with Laxus without Clear Heart so it doesn't amp her speed. Like I told CNBA in regards to PoF amps, show where Clear Heart amps her speed.

What would Flight do? Its complete trash in AP compared to Clear Heart, which is what she needs to step to Laxus. Look at what happened to her Blumenblatt, it got vaped by Laxus.
 
There is a reason, that Erza's Speed is stated as only faster with Flight Armor, it's the only armor that increases speed, her armors don't increase speed, Base Erza is Sub-Relativistic

X792 Characters: Sub-Relativistic (2.23% SoL)

100 Year Quest Characters and God Tiers: Sub-Relativistic (3.2% SoL)

This is what we'll go with
 
Complete and utter bull. When she was in her lighting armor she didn't react to Laxus punch but the moment she used her Clear Clot Armor she was able to keep up but barely. Base Erza shouldn't scale but her strongest armor should since SHE NEEDED to transform into it. I've never seen her stayed in Standard Armor to fight ANY of her fight with Laxus and no

Tell me why would Base Erza scale when we all we see in her fights is her Clear Cloth to take an enemy down?

EDIT: This just clicked to me....isn't Erza feat just reaction speed vs Laxus?
 
It's not that she didn't react to Laxus's attack, she expected to tank Laxus's punch so she just put her arm up and that didn't work, the only armor that increases speed is Flight Armor, Base Erza Speed is equal with Strongest Armors Erza, in power she was lacking against Laxus, but not speed, the difference between her strongest armors and standard is only AP, Striking Class, and Durability, not speed, there is literally no indication her armors increase speed, just power
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
There is a reason, that Erza's Speed is stated as only faster with Flight Armor, it's the only armor that increases speed, her armors don't increase speed, Base Erza is Sub-Relativistic

X792 Characters: Sub-Relativistic (2.23% SoL)

100 Year Quest Characters and God Tiers: Sub-Relativistic (3.2% SoL)

This is what we'll go with
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So i guess we are done here, can we make the changes and close it? Since everyone is agree with it
 
Ehh not yet, you should bother a CGM once more to look over my revised calc since they didn't comment after I did it. It's more of a formality since Alex said it was correct, but he can't eval work he's helped on so.
 
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