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Selene >>> Acnologia because booba
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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga
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Because she's a Dragon God and her human form shouldn't be that much weaker to her dragon form...
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Feats disprove that.
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As of right now human form Selene should be 6C due to Scaling to Suzaku who’s only scaling right now is one shotting base Natsu and Erza and fighting a extremely casual Selene who just now at the end of the chapter stated she is about to get a “little” serious
we know her dragon form is stronger than her human form ok sure but we don’t know by how much you could say she shouldn’t be that much weaker than her dragon form but we can’t give her a Tier based off of that assumption I mean there’s no statement saying her human form isn’t that much weaker than her dragon form
for now all we know is that her dragon form is stronger than her human form so that’s why we give Selene’s human form a different tire based off her own feats and or statements
And I mean really both Selene’s forms are pretty much almost featless at this point her dragon form gets her scaling from Acnologia and or the other Dragon gods and the only other thing she has done is pretty much just BFR team Natsu like twice if I remember correctly she did it once in her dragon form and once in her human form and then the only other thing she did was block a attack from Base nastu during edolas and now fight suzkau while being extremely casual
she hasn’t even went full power in her human form yet let alone her dragon form she stated she was gonna get a “little” serious against suzaku In the upcoming chapter so we might not even see her go full power until she fights team Natsu or something at the end of the arc maybe
we know her dragon form is stronger than her human form ok sure but we don’t know by how much you could say she shouldn’t be that much weaker than her dragon form but we can’t give her a Tier based off of that assumption I mean there’s no statement saying her human form isn’t that much weaker than her dragon form
for now all we know is that her dragon form is stronger than her human form so that’s why we give Selene’s human form a different tire based off her own feats and or statements
And I mean really both Selene’s forms are pretty much almost featless at this point her dragon form gets her scaling from Acnologia and or the other Dragon gods and the only other thing she has done is pretty much just BFR team Natsu like twice if I remember correctly she did it once in her dragon form and once in her human form and then the only other thing she did was block a attack from Base nastu during edolas and now fight suzkau while being extremely casual
she hasn’t even went full power in her human form yet let alone her dragon form she stated she was gonna get a “little” serious against suzaku In the upcoming chapter so we might not even see her go full power until she fights team Natsu or something at the end of the arc maybe
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If her Dragon form = Dragon Acno, it stands to reason that her human form = human Acno (who should really be High 6-A scaling from August’s Ars Magia).
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Tbh, that makes sense if you really think about it, but then that would gave base zeref an High 6-A placement too, which we all know is wrong.
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It wouldn't. Human Acnologia >>> Base Zeref, in fact his current justification is that he's far stronger than base Zeref
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Yeah but would high 6-A for them really be accurate? Considering Zeref literally oneshotted natsu after getting fairy heart. I don’t think it makes sense to put them there in their base forms.
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I'm not understanding what you're saying. We're talking about the human form Dragon Gods.
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Ohh, my apologies. I mean it’s debatable to be very honest. I don’t really mind it, but I think it’s kept like that for consistency. I would like to see mitch’s thoughts though.
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I'm neutral overall to be honest.
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If you guys want to make a CRT to change Human Form Acnologia’s Tier, feel free to do so
I have no strong opinion on the subject
I have no strong opinion on the subject
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actually, now thinking about it, it makes sense because august said he had no way to beat human acnologia and he stood no chance, so logically wouldn’t acnologia scale above it?
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That's what I'm thinking, but I know a counterargument would be that he would always be referring to his full power, which would be his Dragon Form.
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Why? He was literally referring to dragon form acnologia, who just oneshotted god serena, anyways I'll make the CRT.
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Regardless if we upgrade human Acnologia or not because it’s debatable I mean august said he no one could beat Acnologia and sure one could say he was referring to his dragon form but idk if that’s a necessarily a strong counter argument because who’s to say he would have transformed into his dragon form? Why didn’t he transform to kill God Serena? Or battle Irene? plus no one in the world knew Acnologia’s full power and august did say that only Zeref with fairy heart could possibly stand a chance and he said that in the presence of both human Acnologia and dragon form Acnologia once he returned from being effected by universe one
(but regardless I’m neutral on the topic)
but see I think AnonymousBlank’s point was that since Selene’s Dragon form equals Acnologia dragon form well then her human form should equal his human so she should scale to High 6C likely higher in her human as well
(but regardless I’m neutral on the topic)
but see I think AnonymousBlank’s point was that since Selene’s Dragon form equals Acnologia dragon form well then her human form should equal his human so she should scale to High 6C likely higher in her human as well
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Tbh, that is true. Then I guess the High 6-C might be fine.
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So AnonymousBlank's point is that since Dragon Selene >= Dragon Acnologia, Human Selene >= Human Acnologia, so Human Selene's rating should be "At least High 6-C, likely far higher"
I'm okay with this.
I'm okay with this.
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Yeah, I'll make a CRT on it.
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That’s a fair point
I may make a CRT about Human Forms for Acnologia and the Dragon Gods now that they all have relevance
Something like “At least High 6-C, likely/possibly High 6-A” may be valid
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That’s a fair point
I may make a CRT about Human Forms for Acnologia and the Dragon Gods now that they all have relevance
Something like “At least High 6-C, likely/possibly High 6-A” may be valid
I made it for the High 6-C+, the high 6-A one you can make later.
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Do we have anything from Irene commenting on the 5DG? That would help with the High 6-C scaling.
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Has there been anything that said that the human forms are weaker than the dragon forms? Ignia said that is just a physical appearance change and every dragon could do it. It never been mention as a stat change. Don't see why both forms wouldn't be High 6A.
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Heres a CRT thread for some ability additions to Erza’s profile if anyone wants to give their input https://vsbattles.com/threads/erza-ability-additions-crt.117603/
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Raws are out
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Good chapter name for this week's chapter would be "And it was at this moment he knew he ****** up"
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Disclaimer: None of this is confirmed yet and we must wait for further context on Selene's powers before we actually discuss this stuff
With that out of the way, I calced some of the stuff for Selene's Moon Shenangians, like how big she made the moon and the new GBE, stuff like that
New Moon Stats
With that out of the way, I calced some of the stuff for Selene's Moon Shenangians, like how big she made the moon and the new GBE, stuff like that
New Moon Stats
- New Moon Volume = 2.08217723e+22 Meters^3 (948x bigger than before)
- New Moon Mass = 6.9679407e+25 Kg (Class Z)
- New Moon GBE = 28.1 Zettatons (Small Planet level)
- Change of GBE = 28 Zettatons (Small Planet level)
- Moving Moon KE = 11.2 Zettatons (Small Planet level)
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Hopefully we might get confirmation in the final Selene fight.
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i like the feat calc, but ya personally i dont think we need to wait, it seems legit but my issue is with all these dragon god powers, why tf couldnt they beat arco? ingeel took of a arm if all 5-6 of them jumped him they would've won
edit- does arco scale with time absorb or base??
edit- does arco scale with time absorb or base??
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They only got this strong recently. They had to hide from him back then because they were much weaker.
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Well the Dragon Gods don't get along and don't work together
Merc just didn't want to fight as he was now a pacifist
Ignia did want to fight Acnologia, but the latter died before Ignia finished his training
Aldoron was sealed and couldn't do anything
Selene probably didn't care at all and was traveling different dimensions
Viernes is an unknown for now
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Chapters out
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Yeah, I think Selene's Moon might be an actual Moon since it can cause tidal waves especially to a different dimension.
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so Aldoron wasn't at full power when we saw him
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No, he wasn't especially since the God Seeds were defeated. But he was still deadly and it would still take 100,000,000 of Natsu's Destruction Fists to beat him.
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Merc puts more context into his state of being during his rampage. So most of his powers were gone, as in, it had nothing to do with the 50% line, but he actually lost a lot power overtime?
not a good look for the version of natsu that defeated him, and that Says a lot too since natsu Burned both of his arms casually trying to handle Ignias flame. Also makes sense as to why a bit of power from Ignia managed to give natsu such a power boost.
guess Ignia wasn’t joking in his statements.
not a good look for the version of natsu that defeated him, and that Says a lot too since natsu Burned both of his arms casually trying to handle Ignias flame. Also makes sense as to why a bit of power from Ignia managed to give natsu such a power boost.
guess Ignia wasn’t joking in his statements.
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