What's with all those spaces, bro?
To avoid it being censored
it's not like Natsu and Suzaku are at 100% of their powers either, they just got out of a fight and took a hit from Ignia.
Nothing like this is even remotely confirmed yet, Natsu’s in Base and Suzaku just easily blocked an attack from Dogramag
Less lying, more exaggeration and hyperbole
Natsu and Suzaku straight up said they have to team up to win. Dogramag verbatim said he doesn't have his full power because he just woke up. It's been stated and shown that he's also the weakest dragon god even when he's at full power, yet no one but other dragon gods could scratch his walls. Unless we find out all of this is wrong, this is a very strong argument and is not "not even remotely confirmed yet." Of course I agree that we should wait to see how this all unfolds.
They're supposedly on human Selene's level, yet they need to team up to beat someone who's much weaker than her. They also couldn't scratch the labyrinth even when they were at full health, in fact, nobody could, which includes all of the Dragon Eaters and FT wizards, many of whom are Suzaku's equals. Yet what happened this chapter? Dogramag easily broke his labyrinth with a hand wave, and same goes for human Ignia some chapters ago, and Selene is on par with him so she'd be able to replicate the feat.
Not really no, there's numerous statements and feats that support Human Form Dragon God level Suzaku
Aren't all of those statements from Selene, who's proven to be a well-known liar?
Just because she lies occasionally does not mean everything she says is a lie, you need to prove she was lying when she said what she said
I know, which is why I brought up a lot of proof in my posts.
Suzaku is only superior to Selene when using the Abyss, which he has NEVER used in the labyrinth. The same for Natsu, he didn't use any very powerful attacks to try to destroy the walls of the labyrinth.
Wrong, he did use it in the Labyrinth. He used it against Natsu to try and beat him, and it failed.
used it against Natsu who had to use the dragon scales and focus all his power on defense to withstand the Abyss.
Dogramag no diffed the labyrinth, which Natsu and Suzaku couldn't do with named attacks. In fact, they couldn't even scratch it. That alone should be a good indicator that he's above each of them individually. Another evidence is the two dragon slayers saying they need to team up.
The attack that no diffed the Labyrinth also did jack shit to Natsu and Suzaku, who were point blank in the blast… Your agument is mute, my point is not that Suzaku is stronger than Human Form Dragon Gods, my point is he’s near their level
Said attack didn't affect the ground they were standing on, it affected everything around it so one could argue that they pushed away by the shockwave of the attack. We've known that fire dragon slayers can control what they burn ever since Natsu's fight with Erigor, so it's not farfetched to say Ignia chose to not aim the full power of his attack on them when his goal was to showcase the difference in strength between him and them. Also, you realize that your argument of Ignia's attack (>>>body heat>>>labyrinth) doing "jack shit" to Suzaku doesn't make much sense since Natsu's attacks (<<<labyrinth) were able to damage Suzaku. Either 100YQ scaling is wack asf, or Selene wasn't trying throughout the ENTIRETY of her fight with Suzaku.
The issue is you're using the Labyrinth as the end all be all for scaling, that's your one point
Because it's a very valid point. By that logic, I can also say you're using Suzaku's fight against Selene, a well known liar and manipulator, as your only point.
How so?
Not impressive looking at all, the KE of that would be pathetic
he did though, against Natsu In the Labyrinth
last I checked, someone pointed out he didn't use the scales.
someone here pointed out Natsu didn't use the scales to defend against that attack as it would "make the attack affective against Natsu as it would use magic against it"
