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f/sn saber infinite attack speed scaling
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Command spells are given by the holy grail, which draws power from the root, its not impossible
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Disagree too. It just means that it goes very fast. It says just after that it's "the instant that his fingers released the bowstring and fired". (here in japanese, which says basically same thing)
We also see command spells used to make servants stronger all the time, and they don't have infinite power and speed (in Fate/Zero Iskandar had 3 command spells which were only for this)
We also see command spells used to make servants stronger all the time, and they don't have infinite power and speed (in Fate/Zero Iskandar had 3 command spells which were only for this)
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Switching to disagree based on @Everything12 and @Planck69 reasoning
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The statement sounds somehow to warrant Infinite Speed
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The normal commands given to enhance servants are much different than this case. The command shirou gave saber was to wait a tenth of a second, and then immediately jump to the building where archer was posted
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Saying "not even a fraction of a second" doesn't imply that it's actually referring to a literal instant. It's just really really fast. Any evidence to suggest that it should actually be literal.
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No. "Not even a fraction of a second" means exactly that unless the statement is hyperbolic in it's use. 1/n seconds where n is any finite number is still a fraction of a second no matter how infinitesimal it may be
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How much more literal does it have to get to suggest that it does mean that? This doesn't sound hyperbolic at all based on the context.
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No? The fact that it even gives a measure confirms that it's just some really low value starting from "a fraction of a second". Of course, the time being "nothing" does pose as a good supporting evidence, but nothing that would warrant a solid infinite speed rating
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Something being instantaneous and not just a fraction of a second doesn't imply that it's a literal instant
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I don't see how it's different from every other cases.
Also, the "instant" isn't 0 time as shown in text. It is below the speed of light, let alone infinity.
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Disagree. Its flowery languange, just saying it was "instant" its not enough to give such a rating. It must have a backing and no contradiction with its other feats in the visual novel to work. This is just like how you see in other novels "this may have seemed like a long time but it was instant", "he crossed the distance in an instant".
In the calculation evaluations, it was accepted that such value "instant" to be given either 1s or 0.25s as timeframe usually.
In the calculation evaluations, it was accepted that such value "instant" to be given either 1s or 0.25s as timeframe usually.
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this has to be a joke. how are you going to reconcile this with literally every actual speed feat ever from Servants that aren't infinite? disagree. it's clearly flowery language. how did people unironically agree with this? the level of wank this verse is getting is going to make it where no one takes it seriously anymore.
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I don’t mind Infinite Combat speed, but it will be more consistent with being MFTL or so rather than infinite. So personally, i will stay neutral.
And for people saying flowery language and hyperbole, Saber has dealt with attacks that ignore the time axis, so it isn’t necessarily Hyperbolic.
But I’m still neutral.
And for people saying flowery language and hyperbole, Saber has dealt with attacks that ignore the time axis, so it isn’t necessarily Hyperbolic.
But I’m still neutral.
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It is hyperbolic, the "instant" it refers to is between Archer releasing the bowstrings and the shot being fired; which is at least a fraction of seconds. It is important to the scene.
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Command Spells let servants teleport. Boom instant travel. Also nothing new needs to be added.
Disagree with Infinite attack speed.
Disagree with Infinite attack speed.
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No
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if you read hollow axtaraxia, its very obvious that saber is jumping.
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I can’t believe I’m saying this but… this is definitely just flowery language. That or it’s just teleportation and not straight up infinite speed.
Disagree.
Disagree.
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it seems like people are ignoring the lines said immediately after the "instant" statement, i dont know if this is intentional or what but the vn blatantly says the time it took saber to travel was "nothing"and " not even a fraction of a second" no hyperbole ,no "flowery language" here
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its literally being spoonfed as blatantly as possible
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I feel like if there was another instance that backed this up I would agree, but this seems like just moving really fast. I'm gonna disagree
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I would agree, if the last statement didnt exist. call it an outlier or whatever, but its clear nasu meant for this to be instantaneous, as shown by the vn clarifiying this a grand total of 3 times.
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holy shit man. so how are you going to justify every single time Servants and people who scale to them have struggled with bullets that are explicitly around the speed of sound? moved at the speed of sound or only several times the speed of sound with prana bursts? or moving at 400 KMPH? or the fact that time still flows normally during fights? the amount of examples are nigh-infinite that prove this is hyperbole. you're just cherry picking.
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Nasu also intended for Ciel to beat void Shiki and for servants to be Mach 10. sometimes, Nasu doesn't make sense, but he is a pretty good story writer.
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how many of those battles are with command spell amped servants?
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still remember when neco-arc was supposed to be the 2nd strongest being in the nasuverse
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literally never. it's a joke character. what?
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I still want tier 0 neco-arc, but that's besides the point.
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nasu made an official list of strongest nasuverse characters wayback, with magical amber being 1st and neco-arc being second
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he also said he was joking and then stated the real top 3 strongest.
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who was on that list again?
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battle boarders trying to have basic reading comprehension and recognize when something is stated multiple times, it is no longer hyperbole (CHALLENGE LEVEL: IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!)
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Archetype > Void > True Daemons
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Arcueid (Archetype logically speaking), Void, True Daemons.
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Battleboarders trying to realize that obvious hyperbole that, if taken seriously, would completely break the narrative flow is not a real feat (CHALLENGE LEVEL: IMPOSSIBLE!!!)
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"not even a fraction of a second" literally how more obvious can it get
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