Equal Stats Tournament V2: Nagito Komaeda (Dragonronpa ) vs Lord Boros (OPM)

[DemonicDude]

Round 2:
(Match 2)
Same Rules as stated in the Tournament.
(Manga) vs (Visual Novel) match ! Oh no....The Dominator vs Ultimate Lucky Student
This on papers seems like a Squash match but can this tourney actually surprise us with this one ? or will it be over before it started

Results:
Lord Boros last key (OPM) 9 (Kachon, Rez, DD, Phoenks, Finepoint, Charmcander, Hydra, Nierre, Harith0Cell, Rikki, Epiccheev)
Nagito Komaeda (Danganronpa): 1 (Adem)
Inconclusive:

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

What can Boros do against Nagito's luck, which is borderline Probability Manipulation?

Spoiler

(this non-canon, but still)

 

[CheatHydra]

Since this match is based on something like Supernatural Luck, its pretty hard to say who wins. Just how potent is Nagito's luck?

From reading his profile it really does seem to be potent enough to dodge Boros or maybe outright kill him depending on the enviroment. But then it depends on if Boros is equalized to Nagito's AP/Dura or the opposite. Plus the fact that Boros is in Meteoric Burst means that he can only do so much before running out of juice.

Overall i think that Nagito's luck will just have the edge here given how he is able to dodge death itself on what it seems like multiple occasions. Then again, i'm not quite sure, matches that are based on abilities like luck are pretty vague so feel free to enlighten me.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Just how potent is Nagito's luck?

Nagito managed to completely bring down an entire building by knocking out all of the restraining nuts and bolts simply by throwing a bouncy ball and his luck made a small meteor smash the hijackers of his plane

 

[DemonicDude]

While Nagitos luck making a small meteor smash into an airplane is impressive but wouldn't Lord Boros' experience in the end lead him to a victory, He doesn't seem like someone who would get caught off guard and after cheating death/Dodging Collapsing Star Roaring Canon a couple of times Lord Boros' would eventually to adapt to the situation unless Nagitos has supernatural luck not stop kick in and would troll Boros' to the point he won't be able to do anything

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Ehh, This is Meteoric Burst Boros who has Below Average Stamina (One energy punch and one kick left him breathing heavily), so I'm pretty sure he won't have any energy left once he figures out Nagito's luck

 

[DemonicDude]

Oh I wanted to use the Collapsing Star Roaring Canon profile cause this is a tournament and I wanted him to go all out seems like I chose the wrong key

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Ehh, This is Meteoric Burst Boros who has Below Average Stamina (One energy punch and one kick left him breathing heavily), so I'm pretty sure he won't have any energy left once he figures out Nagito's luck

Still had enough energy to make an attack capable of making Saitama use a serious punch

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Still had enough energy to make an attack capable of making Saitama use a serious punch

That's power, not really stamina. (Also I'm just saying what's on the profile)

 

[GodlyCharmander]

That's power, not really stamina. (Also I'm just saying what's on the profile)

Energy = Stamina to Boros

 

[DemonicDude]

Energy = Stamina to Boros

I believe due to energy has to do with his energy like nature/physiology?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon uses all his energy, so he's basically dead after using it

 

[DemonicDude]

Bump

 

[Rez]

So how is his luck saving him from an attack that covers the entire planet? Even if this is equal stat the heat generated by Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon should be enough to kill him

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

So how is his luck saving him from an attack that covers the entire planet? Even if this is equal stat the heat generated by Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon should be enough to kill him

While Nagito will probably die if Boros hits him with CRC, his luck will make a bullshit series of events which will make Boros somehow not being able to do so (I mean, a whole skyscraper collapsed and fell on Nagito and he was completely untouched) and get tired in the end giving his stamina.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Maybe luck makes Boros mistakingly slip and fire the CSRC into space instead of at Nagito/the planet idk

 

[Kachon123]

This is a match based off of what-ifs.

 

[Kachon123]

This is such a dumb argument. Boros uses CSRC, after missing his attacks (or whatever), and killed Nagito.

Any other outcome you say is just bs, because Nagito's never been hit with an attack with planetary range AFAIK. Nagito has nothing to combat his regen, and the extreme heat from his energy. On Nagito's profile, in his dura section, it says that he was able to survive being hit with a gun. That means that it's not impossible for him to get hit. Boros would just keep going aggressive like this until he hits. Nagito isn't invincible. He's just lucky.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Any other outcome you say is just bs, because Nagito's never been hit with an attack with planetary range AFAIK. Nagito has nothing to combat his regen, and the extreme heat from his energy. On Nagito's profile, in his dura section, it says that he was able to survive being hit with a gun. That means that it's not impossible for him to get hit. Boros would just keep going aggressive like this until he hits. Nagito isn't invincible. He's just lucky.

He survived getting shot from Izuru Kamukura, someone who has Nagito's luck + 1

While he's absolutely not untouchable, his luck is basically passive as it does stuff without Nagito even being aware of what's happening (like Nagito sitting down in front of a soda distributor just in time for a truck hitting it and giving to Nagito all the sodas without getting hurt), and can also influence actions of people Nagito doesn't know (like the whole Chap 5 stuff with right Chiaki taking the poisoned bottle without Nagito knowing the traitor, and he wanted to use his luck to see who the traitor is)

 

[Kachon123]

He survived getting shot from Izuru Kamukura, someone who has Nagito's luck + 1

While he's absolutely not untouchable, his luck is basically passive as it does stuff without Nagito even being aware of what's happening (like Nagito sitting down in front of a soda distributor just in time for a truck hitting it and giving to Nagito all the sodas without getting hurt), and can also influence actions of people Nagito doesn't know (like the whole Chap 5 stuff with right Chiaki taking the poisoned bottle without Nagito knowing the traitor, and he wanted to use his luck to see who the traitor is)

That doesn't change the fact that the argument that Nagito would somehow be completely untouched, wether it be by dodging or any other circumstance, by every single attack from Boros that isn't a planetary range aoe attack is borderline NLF.

 

[Kachon123]

I'm voting Boros for my reasons, if it wasn't clear.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

That doesn't change the fact that the argument that Nagito would somehow be completely untouched, wether it be by dodging or any other circumstance, by every single attack from Boros that isn't a planetary range aoe attack is borderline NLF.

If Nagito can't dodge or deactivate CRC, then Boros won't use it
People's actions (who throws a bottle first, a gun becoming stuck until he uses it, etc.) are very much things his luck affects. Makoto's luck outright made Alter Ego hack the system to save his life.

 

[DemonicDude]

Makoto's luck outright made Alter Ego hack the system to save his life.

Sounds like plot Manip.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Sounds like plot Manip.

Plot Armor

 

[DemonicDude]

So I short he has very good luck.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

yes

 

[Kachon123]

People's actions (who throws a bottle first, a gun becoming stuck until he uses it, etc.) are very much things his luck affects

So what you're saying is that Boros just can't hit him w/o using CSRC? If you are, then you're just wrong. That is NLF, unless you can show Nagito being untouched from constant attack.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

That’s not NLF, that’s just how good Probability Manipulation works.

 

[Kachon123]

That’s not NLF, that’s just how good Probability Manipulation works.

It's not NLF to say that Boros can't land any attack at all other than CSRC?

 

[Kachon123]

That’s not NLF,

16. No Limits Fallacy (NLF)​

This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

You can't base your argument off of NLF. Once Nagito gets hit by Boros, he gets melted by the aoe afterwards and dies.

 

[Kachon123]

Or he just shoots a normal energy blast and kills him with the aoe.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Or he just shoots a normal energy blast and kills him with the aoe.

Uh just in case, you are aware that this is an Equal Stat match, right? Nobody can one-shot via AP here

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

“Probability Manipulation makes characters miss attacks” isn’t NLF, that’s just a functionality of the power. A NLF would be saying that Nagito solos fiction including characters with better hax and Resistance to Probability Manipulation.

 

[Kachon123]

Uh just in case, you are aware that this is an Equal Stat match, right? Nobody can one-shot via AP here

I'm talking about the heat that will melt him. Nagito has no heat resistance.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

So what you're saying is that Boros just can't hit him w/o using CSRC? If you are, then you're just wrong. That is NLF, unless you can show Nagito being untouched from constant attack.

-When his classmates are having "fun" and caused a lot of damage and flying projectiles, he stood there doing nothing and the projectiles missed him
-Avoids a strike from Akane by sneezing
-Slipping on a piece of paper that came out of nowhere to avoid a wrench thrown by Junko, where she threw it hard enough to embed it in a wooden column.
-A whole skyscraper collapsed and fell on Nagito and he was completely untouched
-Nagito never gets hit by rain

Makoto's luck also stopped Kyosuke Munakata from killing him, where the latter was bent to kill Makoto no matter what.

 

[Kachon123]

“Probability Manipulation makes characters miss attacks” isn’t NLF, that’s just a functionality of the power. A NLF would be saying that Nagito solos fiction including characters with better hax and Resistance to Probability Manipulation.

Saying he will miss every and all attacks is NLF. Boros will eventually hit him, either with aoe, or with a punch/kick.

 

[DemonicDude]

-When his classmates are having "fun" and caused a lot of damage and flying projectiles, he stood there doing nothing and the projectiles missed him
-Avoids a strike from Akane by sneezing
-Slipping on a piece of paper that came out of nowhere to avoid a wrench thrown by Junko, where she threw it hard enough to embed it in a wooden column.
-A whole skyscraper collapsed and fell on Nagito and he was completely untouched
-Nagito never gets hit by rain

Makoto's luck also stopped Kyosuke Munakata from killing him, where the latter was bent to kill Makoto no matter what.

So basically Boros will not be able hit Nagitos at all ?

 

[Kachon123]

-When his classmates are having "fun" and caused a lot of damage and flying projectiles, he stood there doing nothing and the projectiles missed him
-Avoids a strike from Akane by sneezing
-Slipping on a piece of paper that came out of nowhere to avoid a wrench thrown by Junko, where she threw it hard enough to embed it in a wooden column.
-A whole skyscraper collapsed and fell on Nagito and he was completely untouched
-Nagito never gets hit by rain

Makoto's luck also stopped Kyosuke Munakata from killing him, where the latter was bent to kill Makoto no matter what.

None of these attacks have aoe range ranging from tens of kilometers to planetary. If he happens to sneeze or whatever the explosions will still hit him and vaporize him with sheer heat.

 

[Kachon123]

So basically Boros will not be able hit Nagitos at all ?

He will. They are bordering NLF with their arguments

 

[DemonicDude]

He will. They are bordering NLF with their arguments

I guess, maybe that's why it was sounding so fishy all the time.