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Gar is saying the strongest 7-C AFO has Shock Absorption and Regen. Not that its his reasoning for being there.
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Yeah, but the stronger version would still be the version that has those powers over the version that doesn't.DragonEmperor23 said:All For One didn't get physically weaker after he gave Shock Absorption and Regenerationn away. He only lost the ability to nullify kinetic force and regenerate.
Then that doesn't change that AFO doesn't have Shock Absorption and Regen here. It's not the strongest version in the same tier that gets used, it's the most recent. That's literally what Character Version in SBA says.AnonymousBlank said:Gar is saying the strongest 7-C AFO has Shock Absorption and Regen. Not that its his reasoning for being there.
But.... we don't count them as separate versions. There is no key for All For One without Shock Absorbtion. If this were true, we'd be able to use MCU Thanos when he just had the Power Stone, but we can't because there is no key for it so......AnonymousBlank said:Dragon does have a point. If its two versions with the same tier, the most recent gets used in which case Natsu wins. Voting Natsu.
"He doesn't have these two abilities" is not reasoning for a win aloneAnonymousBlank said:Dragon does have a point. If its two versions with the same tier, the most recent gets used in which case Natsu wins. Voting Natsu.
Keys and versions are the same thing. That's literally the point of keys is that you can choose what version is used. And again, every All For One match ever assumes he has all his quirks.DragonEmperor23 said:It's not for keys, it's for versions. If it was talking about keys, that wouldn't make any sense because the OP chooses those.
Yes, because it's not like Air Cannons can set out the fire while he regenerates and he completely trumps Natsu in skill and experience or anything.DragonEmperor23 said:So now, it's just an ordinary brawl. If AFO goes to the sky, Natsu can still hit him and then he eventually succumbs to burns.
Because op said 7-c version which you knowThe Wright Way said:Also, no ones addressed my argument on why All For One would still have Shock Absorbtion on his side.
One For All user's and the people he had to fight in order to get his strongest quirks would like a word. AP doesn't keep him from dispersing flames that are on him, don't know where you get that. And again, no one's addressed my counter argument proving that he'd have them here.AnonymousBlank said:Natsu has the better skill and AFO's experience is against stomping far weaker people. Air cannons also have less AP then the flames while Natsu's flames are hot enough to disperse constantly fueled air based attacks.
@Gar
Regen and Shock Absorbtion were the only things keeping AFO in the fight, allowing him to eventually wear down Natsu. Without them, he gets beat pretty quickly.
Oh. Sorry.Schnee One said:Wright you mistyped and asked why he would have that quirk
It's just a misunderstanding
Not really, for example Jotaro Kujo's second key is him with time stop. That key includes Part 4 and Part 6 Jotaro despite them being different versions of the same person. Saying that every AFO match makes that assumption doesn't mean it's correct.The Wright Way said:Keys and versions are the same thing. That's literally the point of keys is that you can choose what version is used. And again, every All For One match ever assumes he has all his quirks.
Schnee One said:Ya know if you disagree with abilities on the profile you make a CRT
Just to be clear here, I'm not saying that AFO never had the abilities. I'm just saying that this is AFO before the second fight with All Might, not him from a random time period before the first episode.Schnee One said:Schnee One said:Ya know if you disagree with abilities on the profile you make a CRT
Part 6 Jotaro actually becomes physically weaker in durability but in the thread it was discussed to not be a big enough change for a different key.The Wright Way said:But Jotaro doesn't lose his abilities at any point, and as such, there's no reason for a key separating part 4 and 6. Not the case here.DragonEmperor23 said:Not really, for example Jotaro Kujo's second key is him with time stop. That key includes Part 4 and Part 6 Jotaro despite them being different versions of the same person. Saying that every AFO match makes that assumption doesn't mean it's correct.
Then we assume he has bothDragonEmperor23 said:I don't think a separate key just for AFO having lost two abilities would be big enough to warrant its existence.
The assumption wouldn't be that he has both, it would be that he has neither as that's the most recent version of AFO in that tier.Schnee One said:Then we assume he has bothDragonEmperor23 said:I don't think a separate key just for AFO having lost two abilities would be big enough to warrant its existence.
One key for Jotaro and his Time Stop warrented it, if you feel it should here, a quirk CRT is fine
And the thread doesn't mindlessly derail
Good night, don't let the bed bugs bite.Schnee One said:K
Imma go to bed and probably reply in the morning