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did that get accepted?
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Dragon Ball Z (Toei) Upgrade: The Meta Shifter
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only staff with evaluation rights in CRTs are admins and Thread mods
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Cell (Toei)
Cell is the ultimate creation of Dr. Gero, created from the DNA of the greatest fighters to ever visit Earth and tasked with the simple goal of killing Son Goku. However, to reach his perfect form and full power, Cell must absorb Gero's other biomechanical creations; the Androids, 17 and 18...
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Not comparable. Being suppressed and surpassing a 4-C doesn't back him being 4-A when his 4-B feat is a big deal and as I mentioned it's not my point. Kefla's would still be in the 2-C range.
Already adreesed the first two so I'm not going to argue those. For the second, I'm not sure shacking things from Earth to Namek means anything without a calc.
Cell anime quotes do go hard.
On a serious note, as I mentioned though I don't disagree with the upgrade.
Do anymore staff need to be called or do we need to just wait for the time to pass.
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You, Lephyr, and DDM agreed, so we just need to wait.
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If this is you agreeing, then we have 3 staff votes and just need to wait. You also agree on the Namek stuff, right?
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I guess I didn't explain the first point well enough, I basically said that Suppressed Perfect Cell (Vs. Trunks) is already almost x2 the SPC feat, that same Cell is weaker than even Base Buu Saga Gohan.
Technically we'd treat (At least in Versus Threads) 6 Universe 2-C as basically an infinite difference from 3 Universe 2-C, but even without that, Peak Kefla was going to one-shot second Ultra Instinct Omen, so her getting hyped up by something even Base BoG Goku could pull is almost as egregious as the Cell situation, almost, 4-B is freaking huge.
I'm sure there are more hype statements that don't make sense, I know the DBS Manga has a few
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Nothing's ever topping Frieza going how about this power to destroy an entire planet? against GoD Toppo. Been doing that since form 1 and still thought it was relevant. All those beatings did something to his head.
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Dyspo LS shenanigans take the cake for me.
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For the Garlic Jr. stuff, anyone who scales to Gohan, Piccolo or Krillin
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Though I'm a bit confused. How are we treating Garlic Jr's power level between Pre-Namek and Post-Namek?
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The Dead Zone Movie Garlic Jr? That lad is way weaker because the Makyo Star was really far away from Earth, he's like weaker than Raditz
Post-Namek Garlic Jr. is stronger than Nail-Piccolo, but definitely weaker than Final Form Frieza
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Ah alright. As long as that power difference is being acknowledged
This should be fine then
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Yes.
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I forgor, how badly did Garlic Jr. beat up Piccolo compared to Third Form Frieza? I'm thinking Frieza.
I ask cause depending on who beat up Piccolo worse, that's where you can determine on how the scaling goes on. Of course in the end Final Form Frieza will still be way stronger than Garlic Jr., but there is some character scaling from Nail Piccolo all the way to Final Form Frieza.
I ask cause depending on who beat up Piccolo worse, that's where you can determine on how the scaling goes on. Of course in the end Final Form Frieza will still be way stronger than Garlic Jr., but there is some character scaling from Nail Piccolo all the way to Final Form Frieza.
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Xenomorph was blitzing and Piccolo didn't get any good hits in. Scratch that, I don't think Piccolo hit 3rd Frieza at all. Also used him for target practice while playing. Definitely the worse beating.
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Garlic Jr. Saga Piccolo would be stronger than Namek Piccolo tho
Lad has a training scene in the first episode of that arc
Lad has a training scene in the first episode of that arc
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Not a problem. That can be noted for Garlic Jr's tiering as well as Toei Piccolo when he gets a page
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Shouldn’t this be Soul Manip for freezing ones body and soul? Or are we leaving that for another crt?
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i dunno why an AP crt would deal with an Hax ability.....just make another one
Shouldn’t this be Soul Manip for freezing ones body and soul? Or are we leaving that for another crt?
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if the feat is accepted, we should figure out who in the Namek arc scales to the 4-A feat, and I'll probably start drafting a new AP blog which I'll put in another CRT
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Probably 3rd form Freeza and above would be around that tier. 4th form definitely still outscales garlick JR but idk at what specific percentage.
Outright, SS1 Future Gohan/ F. Trunks and post Yardrat Goku scale to 50x times this feat as enraged base kid Gohan > Garlick JR
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3rd Form Frieza will probably remain at like High 4-C, since we can't really scale Garlic Jr. Piccolo to Namek Piccolo
We know Trunks Saga Piccolo believes he's stronger than Vegeta
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can we use stuff from manga guides for Toei?
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Think so
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alright, should I make the blog or the thread first?
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for the new AP blog I mean, since there's other minor stuff I want to add
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bump.
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Can we really scale Namek Freeza to garlic JR at all then? The reason people were ******** their pants at Freezas return was likely due to him having become stronger than before as opposed to them not reaching that level yet, in which case it might be better to scale namek Freeza to his own 4-A feat.
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