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Yes, it should be more than fine.But I have a question, when do we add an "at least" for the ratings? Is it fine to add it when one character scales far above the value they are rated at?
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Yes, it should be more than fine.But I have a question, when do we add an "at least" for the ratings? Is it fine to add it when one character scales far above the value they are rated at?
He never overpowered their combined force.Shouldn't Imperfect Cell be 978 Tenatons by being >>> Android 17 and Piccolo combined? Since he stomped both of them simultaniously
Yes he didHe never overpowered their combined force.
One, then the other.
Yes it does, becouse you individually are stronger than both of them at full power. And obviously that means your power is several times above theirs.One, then the other.
Fighting two people at the same time doesn't mean you're twice as strong.
No. They literally come at him at a very shortly apart from each other, and that literally is that when the two of them fought together against CellOne, then the other.
Fighting two people at the same time doesn't mean you're twice as strong.
This. Like, you're still facing X amount of force just that you're facing it from two sides. It doesn't make the force 2X.Fighting two people at the same time doesn't mean you're twice as strong.
True. It also would most likely not count even if they punched you in the same spot (Like say, a dual gut-punch), AFAIK.This. Like, you're still facing X amount of force just that you're facing it from two sides. It doesn't make the force 2X.
Say, if my body is hard enough to tank X amount of force, that means my chest will tank X amount of force if someone punched me from the front. And someone punching me with X force on my back will also be tanked.
You do not have be twice as powerful than them in order to do that. I have no idea why you'd think that was the case in the first place, but all you need to do is be stronger than one of them (If both are comparable).No. They literally come at him at a very shortly apart from each other, and that literally is that when the two of them fought together against Cell
It just means you're strong enough to overwhelm ONE of them. Their force isn't multiplied or added together by fighting as a duo. It's the same force applied to two different places, it doesn't add up at all.And obviously that means your power is several times above theirs.
You would need to upgrade that when super manga vegetas profile gets more keys (aka giveing him the same amount of keys Goku has)https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FluffyCreatureZ/Dragon_Ball_Z_power_scaling
Who's idea was it to create profiles for the TOP's side characters? They are worthless and the scaling is horrible and it's so much work to edit them, like half of them are solar system level for no reason at all and most of them are outdated, I fixed their scaling and added the new tiers and values.
I think we're actually done here so it'd be cool if you guys check out the blog to see if there's anything missing and the only thing that'll be left is to apply this.
Maybe it would be best to explain why SSJ Grade 4 Goku is 1956 Tenatons (50% Goku >> SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta >> Semi-Perfect Cell > 2 * Android 17 >>> Future Android 17 = 489 Tenatons)If anyone has a problem with the blog, point them out because that's going to be on the profiles. Anyway I am going to start applying stuff to the profiles from now.
That only needs to be on drak dragon mdjdjh's blog which it already is. My blog is just to summarize all that is gonna change and make the new profiles for when we apply the stuff.I meant in the blog to explain the ratings
I suggested this but it's apparently confusing. It shouldn't be because the rating is still simply MFTL+ and the likely higher is in the justification not the rating.Okay I have a good proposal. How about I add a part, similar to how the DBS part displays the speed, in the speed justification where I write the speed then the likely higher speed and link akmmans blog in it for example in DBS we write "At least 196 quadrilion, likely higher (ryu man's blog link)" but here we can do something like "speed, likely higher speed (akm man's blog link)". I've come up with an even better idea which instead of listing each speed value for each character, instead I just say "likely higher" like this.
Massively FTL+ (Likely higher [akm man's link], Justification)
The pros would be that it wouldn't be ambiguous any more, it's similar to how we already treat the DBS section and it's also easier for me to edit as this basically affects the whole verse.
The cons is that I have to edit all them profiles again...
Something like this?I just want a link to AKM's blog to be embedded into a sentence within a parenthesis following the Massively FTL+ rating, without a "likely higher".
Something like this?
Massively FTL+ (see here) (justification)
That looks kinda ugly.
Okay how about I just link Akm man's blog in the MFTL+ rating itself?
Massively FTL+ (justification)
I was thinking more about "Massively FTL+ (See here. Justification.)", but I suppose that you can probably use your second suggestion as well if you wish.
That seems fine to me at least.Alright deal. I'll do the second option if that's fine with everyone.
Nuking katchin is large star level not solar system level. I cannot assign a tier to these guys who have no actual justification, I'd rather delete all those pointless profiles like you said.I think they are being scaled to being able to damage the Katchin in the arena? Seem to remember something like that.
But otherwise, I would say to just nuke these profiles and keep only the most relevant ones.
Thank you. Did others unlock all of the pages that you needed, and if so, can somebody write a list of all the ones that need to be relocked? You will need to write a list with the EXACTLY WORDED page titles though.Hello. Alright I got a bunch of things to say.
First, I finished fixing the MFTL+ characters in my blog and the profiles I've edited, and I've also finished editing the unlocked profiles.
@AKM sama @Damage3245 and DarkDragonMedeusSecond, the tournament fodder scaling is horrible. For example this justification "Solar System level (Defeated Piccolo, moved Android 17 and Base Goku via the element of surprise)" Non of these justifications are solar system level, more like universe level. Or this justification, " Solar System level (Slightly damaged a held-back base Vegeta)" Why are we giving ratings based on someone holding back? This is not solar system level, this is unknown. Same with this "Solar System level (Fought an extremely held back Gohan)" How do we know a holding back universal Gohan is solar system level? Jimizu should scale to large star scaling to other universe 2 fighters. etc there's a lot more. So I'll just edit the profiles with actual justifications and leave ones like these alone.
I will handle it. Tell me here when you are done.Third, I need all of the locked profiles listed here in my blog unlocked.